NEW YORK | 3 Hudson Blvd (The Girasole) | 987 FT | 56 FLOORS | ON HOLD

[NYguy]

A little more on that…



https://normanoder.substack.com/p/a-yimby-fever-dream-state-plans-3950

A YIMBY Fever Dream? State Plans 3,950 Apartments on Two Sites Near Hudson Yards
One might have a Floor Area Ratio well over 30 and be the country's densest residential building. Another might have the most units in a single tower.


JUL 09, 2026

Key points

-New York State is willing to consider remarkably dense projects, with the justification “New York City’s housing crisis”

-One parcel just north of Hudson Yards would have bulk, expressed in Floor Area Ratio, similar to what’s proposed at Site 5 of Atlantic Yards, while another would have far more, its FAR potentially well over 30

-Site 3HB, with two towers, might have 2,203 apartments/acre, more than any other building in the country

-One tower in Site K, with 1,550 apartments, might contain more units than any single tower in the city/country

-Both projects would be developed by essentially the same development team, which belatedly refinanced a loan on Site K

New York State has quietly eased the path to what might be the country’s densest residential building: two 900-foot towers rising on a 1.09-acre parcel (Site 3HB) near Hudson Yards, housing 2,400 apartments, 30% of them affordable.

In doing so, Empire State Development (ESD), the state authority that also oversees Atlantic Yards, would help rescue the developer of the stalled office tower once planned for Site 3HB, also known as 3 Hudson Boulevard, between West 34th and West 35th streets just east of 11th Avenue.

In March, the state began the environmental review for both the privately-owned Site 3HB and adjacent state-owned Site K, directly to the north, where another large—though not quite so large—residential and hotel project is planned, dubbed HDSN.

At Site K, between West 35th and West 36th streets, a residential tower would rise 800 feet, with 1,550 apartments. A separate tower on the parcel would house a 400-room hotel, plus amenities to support the Javits Convention Center.

The two sites, just north of Hudson Yards and essentially a residential extension of that project, are overseen by an ESD subsidiary, the New York Convention Center Development Corporation, and will be approved under a General Project Plan, as with Atlantic Yards.

That avoids the city’s land-use process, which requires a vote by the City Planning Commission and City Council.

Construction could start next year, with Site K (HDSN) completed in 2032 and Site 3HB in 2034, according to the Draft Scope of Work.

Remarkably, the plan—in which Site 3HB was quietly added to Site K well after the latter project was announced in a Dec. 19, 2024, press release—has received zero press coverage, even from industry sources, or public discussion.

[BuildThemTaller]

Hell yeah. Build moar towers!

[ChiND]

This is great news.

I'm glad to see less competition for 175 Park and HYII.

[The New York Lion]

Originally Posted by ChiND

This is great news.

I'm glad to see less competition for 175 Park and HYII.

4,000 units is no joke.

The economic multiplier of that on the immediate area will be simply nonpareil.

[ChiND]

Originally Posted by The New York Lion

4,000 units is no joke.

The economic multiplier of that on the immediate area will be simply nonpareil.

Indeed!

[NYguy]

Added to the massive number of units coming to the railyards, and the massive amount of units also coming to the Intrepid site as well as others nearby along the Hudson, the west side will finally see new life, and start to resemble the density of the rest of midtown. As I always say, wherever there is housing bding built, the city should build as dense as possible. It’s a big fucking city, time to act like it. Both Hochul and Mamdani look to Jersey City as an example of getting more housing built, and there’s no reason the city shouldn’t be doing the same.


(Moved to proposals until we can get a firm grip on what’s rising here).

[NYguy]

Same developers (BXP, Moinian) for both sites. Since they were already working with the state, I guess that makes the transition easy.



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[ChiND]

NY Guy: Do you know when the new plan for 3 Hudson could start? I'll be elated to see this long-stalled corner finally start development.

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by ChiND

NY Guy: Do you know when the new plan for 3 Hudson could start? I'll be elated to see this long-stalled corner finally start development.

Technically, they’ve already started work on the 3 Hudson site. Both sites could begin work next year, but there’ll probably be some overlap somewhere.

[ChiND]

I'm elated about this. This looks better than any office design that has been proposed for this site.

[NYguy]

There are some HUGE residential developments on the way, from 395 Flatbush, 100 Gold Street, Independence Plaza, 240 Nassau, and not to mention the Western Railyards developments, just to name a few.



Another look at the combined numbers for these two sites...

[ChiND]

https://www.newyorkyimby.com/

[Xing Lin]

I really like that residential massing concept, it harkens back to the old twisting Girasole design:

Image source

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by Xing Lin

I really like that residential massing concept, it harkens back to the old twisting Girasole design

I was thinking that as well. I wonder how much if any the massing plays on the already built foundation. Not sure, but a look at the plans vs current site...Looks like some changes to the core, but from the graphic, it seems the towers are connected at least at the top, and probably thoughout...





















A look at some of the housing planned in the immediate vicinity and the overall context...