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Old Posted May 7, 2026, 5:37 PM
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State agency confirms Midway Rising can breach height limit
HCD says development team can invoke a state housing law to build above the 30-foot height limit on San Diego's sports arena site

The Midway Rising development team seeking to remake San Diego’s sports arena site with thousands of apartments and a new arena recently received confirmation from a powerful agency that it can invoke a state housing law to build above the neighborhood height limit.

Last week, California’s Department of Housing and Community Development, or HCD, sent a technical assistance letter to the city of San Diego stating that the special benefits granted to housing developments under state density bonus law can be applied to the commercial components of the mixed-use mega project, including the proposed entertainment venue.

The agency’s opinion adds credence to the team’s previously stated position. Midway Rising has maintained that the entirety of the project is entitled to a waiver from the 30-foot height limit in the Midway District because the restriction stands in the way of the project’s financial feasibility.

The team’s position is based on a prior HCD determination that opened the door to buildings taller than 30 feet in San Diego’s Coastal Height Limit Overlay Zone, as defined by Proposition D in 1972.

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/202...way-risings-plan-to-breach-height-limit/
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Old Posted May 7, 2026, 8:29 PM
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State agency confirms Midway Rising can breach height limit

"State agency confirms Midway Rising can breach height limit"

This is, I think, different from the legislation that is moving on CEQA not applying to the redevelopment. I guess the long-term dedication of the developers (including Kronke, who was behind a similar fight with SoFi stadium in Inglewood) makes a difference. But it has been almost half a decade since the city council picked a developer, there have been two votes, and it still hasn't really begun.
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Just parked at 4th and Robinson noticed the arts and crafts store on corner that has been there forever is all boarded up. Do we have more density coming in to HC which is on Fite with new units flooding the hood?
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Old Posted May 21, 2026, 11:27 PM
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Just parked at 4th and Robinson noticed the arts and crafts store on corner that has been there forever is all boarded up. Do we have more density coming in to HC which is on Fite with new units flooding the hood?
There's a lot more stuff planned, permitted, and being traded in hillcrest. However per permits that's becoming a vet. There's some new permits for 8 story buildings on Front Street in Bankers Hill and a new 7 story by the hospitals
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We've got a stalled project folks! Alabama and El Cajon Blvd has been a pit with rebar beginning to stick out for at least 4 months now, this should have a crane up and be at street level or more by now. Uh oh hopefully this is a one off or they found some mastodon bones or something 😅
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We've got a stalled project folks! Alabama and El Cajon Blvd has been a pit with rebar beginning to stick out for at least 4 months now, this should have a crane up and be at street level or more by now. Uh oh hopefully this is a one off or they found some mastodon bones or something 😅
Haha I know what you're referencing (Vantage Pointe) and it makes me feel old

And yeah, that project has been sitting there for a while. 8-story, 106 homes. Not sure what's going on there. There are a lot of cranes in North Park right now though, so not too worried if this takes a bit of time to pop.
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Drove by Cuatro at City Heights the other day. Very interesting to see multiple parcels on three different blocks as part of the same project. Only four stories each but they add some nice bulk to the area.

Google Streetview of the area
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Old Posted Jun 3, 2026, 6:13 PM
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Drove by Cuatro at City Heights the other day. Very interesting to see multiple parcels on three different blocks as part of the same project. Only four stories each but they add some nice bulk to the area.

Google Streetview of the area
Really neat project - technically 4 different blocks, there's another piece of the project up on El Cajon Blvd. I like the cohesive visual style across multiple sites and the improvement of some key gateway sites to the neighborhood.
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I'm up in Seattle these days, but still like to keep up with hometown development. Any new groundbreakings on any of the downtown highrise proposals? Has Andia topped out yet?
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I'm up in Seattle these days, but still like to keep up with hometown development. Any new groundbreakings on any of the downtown highrise proposals? Has Andia topped out yet?
Yes, Andia has topped out. It’s looking real nice.
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Old Posted Jun 8, 2026, 5:09 PM
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Yes, Andia has topped out. It’s looking real nice.


I took this over the past weekend. Those light bars running halfway down from the top have an extremely shiny material on them. I hope it is only a temporary layer, as it could be obnoxious depending on the time of day.

What is the lore about Mastadon bones and Vantage Point? Sounds fascinating.

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Thaks for the updates guys. So if I'm not mistaken, every highrise u/c in downtown has now been topped out or recently completed, unless a new one has started. Looking forward to seeing the updated skyline from the window seat when I fly in later this year.
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Thaks for the updates guys. So if I'm not mistaken, every highrise u/c in downtown has now been topped out or recently completed, unless a new one has started. Looking forward to seeing the updated skyline from the window seat when I fly in later this year.
I can't think of any additional construction for downtown, but you may see a good amount going on in Banker's Hill. Lots of activity there and some new builds completed over the past year or so.
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Old Posted Jun 9, 2026, 7:34 PM
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Looking at the downtown development map, I see that the 4th&B tower (400 ft, 32 floors) was issued its construction permit back in January. I think that will be the next place to look for new tower construction.

https://aca-prod.accela.com/SANDIEGO/Cap...&agencyCode=SANDIEGO&IsToShowInspection=
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Looking at the downtown development map, I see that the 4th&B tower (400 ft, 32 floors) was issued its construction permit back in January. I think that will be the next place to look for new tower construction.

https://aca-prod.accela.com/SANDIEGO/Cap...&agencyCode=SANDIEGO&IsToShowInspection=
Looks like a case of permit farming. The owners of that parcel were intending to sell. https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/202...rumbling-california-theatre-is-for-sale/
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Old Posted Jun 9, 2026, 11:18 PM
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7 & Market- -signs of life..

New signs of life for the long vacant block at 7th & Market. Developer of Pendry coming to the table with a high-rise and possibly small hotel on site. Copy & Pasted article for those who don't subscribe below.

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/202...ped-with-housing-retail-and-small-hotel/

"A downtown San Diego site that was once destined to become home to the city’s first Ritz-Carlton hotel is now being considered for yet another mixed-use project — this time from a developer who twice lost out in previous efforts to redevelop the much-debated block at 7th Avenue and Market Street.

The San Diego City Council agreed Monday to pursue negotiations with longtime hotel developer Robert Green, who brought to the city an unsolicited proposal to build a high-rise tower that would include 460 housing units, of which 15% would be income-restricted for 55 years. The negotiating agreement between the city and Green also contemplates a small boutique hotel, although it is not required. Green’s Encinitas-based company is responsible for developing the tony 317-room Pendry hotel in the Gaslamp Quarter nine years ago.

While the council vote obligates the city to negotiate with Green over the next 180 days, it does not constitute approval of the development proposal itself. If talks go well, a detailed agreement covering the purchase and redevelopment of the city-owned East Village site would return to the council for its consideration.

Monday’s action came without any discussion, as the proposed negotiating agreement was included within a consent agenda that covered multiple items. The council had agreed to consider Green’s proposal following a February closed session when city staff was instructed to further explore the project details. Last month, the council’s Economic Development and Intergovernmental Relations Committee considered the proposed agreement with Green, and it, too, passed with no discussion from the council members present.


The hoped-for redevelopment of the 55,000-square-foot block bounded by 7th, Market, and 8th and Island avenues has something of a tortured history dating back to 2008 when the former agency that oversaw downtown redevelopment sought proposals to reimagine the city site. The Robert Green Company was the runner-up among seven bidders, but the whole process collapsed following revelations about a financial relationship between the winning bidder and the former president of the former Centre City Development Corp.

Eight years later, the city revived redevelopment efforts when the council approved plans by Cisterra Development to revitalize what is still a surface parking lot with a160-room Ritz-Carlton hotel and 58 Ritz-branded condos, a Whole Foods Market, 115 apartments, and 32 affordable housing units. But that project failed to come to fruition as well following years of delays and warnings from the city that Cisterra had not lived up to the terms of its agreement with the city for developing what was then pegged as a $700 million project.

“We believe in that location, and we believe that a high-rise, a very high-quality mixed-use residential project with ground-floor retail and food and beverage that has a relationship to the ballpark and the Gaslamp can work,” Green said in an interview with the Union-Tribune. “That’s why we like this and that’s why we’ve followed this block for so many years.”

Green, however, wasn’t free to pitch his latest proposal for the 7th and Market site until the city had exhausted all its redevelopment efforts under what’s known as the state Surplus Land Act, which is designed to encourage the construction of housing affordable for lower-income households when local jurisdictions are disposing of government-owned property.


The city began working with the Chelsea Investment Corp. on a plan to develop more than 400 low-income units on the site, but both sides ultimately agreed more than a year ago to abandon the project when it was determined it wouldn’t pencil out. Last August, state housing officials informed the city it had satisfied the requirements of the Surplus Land Act and was free to renew redevelopment efforts as long as 15% of any housing proposed was set aside for low-income households.

While the focus of Green’s company is hotel development, he says he is not so sure at this time whether even a small hotel makes sense, given the current challenges in getting hotels financed. The city’s recent approval of a higher minimum wage for tourism workers only adds to the financial challenges, Green said.

“We are contemplating doing a primarily residential component, but we have left the door open to incorporate a small hotel component because we believe that that may be a powerful tool to differentiate our project within the market,” Green said. “However, the hotel industry is facing a lot of challenges right now.”

While he isn’t proposing a gourmet market, he is thinking about including a food hall not unlike the upscale Italian marketplace known as Eataly. He had reached out to the brand when he last proposed a development for 7th and Market.

Several years ago, Green had hoped to build a second hotel in the Gaslamp Quarter, but he says plans for his proposed 240-room 4th and J project currently remain on hold amid still high interest rates and escalating construction and labor costs. His most recently completed project was in 2020 when the luxury Montage resort opened in Sonoma wine country.

His firm also had been involved in a luxury resort project in La Quinta, but those plans went awry when a development firm managed by the Robert Green Company filed for bankruptcy in 2024. Green blames the financial struggles with the project on the pandemic, which he said led to the collapse of his lender.

“We had a construction loan in place,” he explained. “We had started construction and our lender ended up going out of business and selling their company and didn’t fund the whole construction loan. And we got caught up in all that.”

Green said he expects that it could take up to 1 1/2 years to complete the negotiation and development agreement process. And after that would come the process of securing permit approvals should he get that far"
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Thaks for the updates guys. So if I'm not mistaken, every highrise u/c in downtown has now been topped out or recently completed, unless a new one has started. Looking forward to seeing the updated skyline from the window seat when I fly in later this year.
They finally are breaking ground on Après Little Italy, 27 stories at India and Fir. They demolished blick art and the 2 houses last year, and they are grading now.

https://buildsd.org/projects/apr%C3%A9s-little-italy



Heres the BuildSD article on the project.

Also one on 1950 India Street, which is likely starting soonish too

https://buildsd.org/projects/1950-india-street

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Old Posted Jun 12, 2026, 9:22 PM
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City of San Diego has just approved 3 grants for affordable housing developments, 2 in City Heights and 1 in Hillcrest. Part of the Bridge to Home program.

https://www.insidesandiego.org/city-recommends-bridge-home-funds-430-affordable-homes

The largest development, on a San Diego Unified partner development, is on the old Central Elementary site, 267 units

The next is a 97 unit development at 4th and brookes in hillcrest Across the street from another development with the same name

The last is a 68 unit development just south of El Cajon and Fairmont, Terlita South. Nextdoor to a brand new development

find more info and renders here

https://sandiego.hylandcloud.com/211agen...106151&isSection=False&isAttachment=True
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Looking at the downtown development map, I see that the 4th&B tower (400 ft, 32 floors) was issued its construction permit back in January. I think that will be the next place to look for new tower construction.

https://aca-prod.accela.com/SANDIEGO/Cap...&agencyCode=SANDIEGO&IsToShowInspection=
Speaking of the downtown Development map, it should be updated some time soon, update will be early July
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