340 Parkdale Ave | 127m | 38f | Proposed

[Uhuniau]

Originally Posted by Proof Sheet

How can you recreate the atmosphere and grime of the current Carleton. I think they tried to do that in Toronto to a bar called the Morrissey when it had to relocate and it was an abject failure. It would be like saying that a shiny new convenience store at a gas station in the suburbs is the same as an old school urban corner store (like Kim's Convenience). Yes they both sell convenience items but the atmosphere is totally different.

The dank, Moe, the dank.

[FutureWickedCity]

The Laff used to be dank but now well heeled people line up in arctic weather for a table.

[harls]

Originally Posted by Uhuniau

The dank, Moe, the dank.

There's still lotsa dank across the border, if you need it.

La Brass, Flix Billiard, that place on Eddy and Papineau... Not too familiar with the original city of Gatineau, but there's still Pigale, a couple of strip clubs on rue Main (Bar 77).. etc.

[Proof Sheet]

Originally Posted by harls

There's still lotsa dank across the border, if you need it.

La Brass, Flix Billiard, that place on Eddy and Papineau... Not too familiar with the original city of Gatineau, but there's still Pigale, a couple of strip clubs on rue Main (Bar 77).. etc.

Taverne 57 was always good in 'old' Hull but it is permanently closed.

Taverne Montcalm is always an option and I've always been intrigued by Taverne Le Whip

Or this fine establishment Bar Dumas in Hull.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/9WGAsUU4RE9ArCTb8

[harls]

Originally Posted by Proof Sheet

Taverne 57 was always good in 'old' Hull but it is permanently closed.

Taverne Montcalm is always an option and I've always been intrigued by Taverne Le Whip

Or this fine establishment Bar Dumas in Hull.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/9WGAsUU4RE9ArCTb8

My kind of place. Used to live on Carillon when I first moved here, Man.. 20 years ago.

But back to the thread, yes.. the Carleton is going to become corporate once it's demolished. You can't recreate the smoke-laden walls, unless AI can do it.

[J.OT13]

Originally Posted by Proof Sheet

How can you recreate the atmosphere and grime of the current Carleton. I think they tried to do that in Toronto to a bar called the Morrissey when it had to relocate and it was an abject failure. It would be like saying that a shiny new convenience store at a gas station in the suburbs is the same as an old school urban corner store (like Kim's Convenience). Yes they both sell convenience items but the atmosphere is totally different.

Even if they reused all of the stone, windows, doors, wood paneling, bar, furniture, it can never be the same. The smell and the atmosphere in those old places cannot be recreated.

It's sad to lose these old establishments and buildings. We can never get them back.

[rocketphish]

Carleton Tavern to be demolished and rebuilt as part of highrise development on Parkdale Ave.

Mia Jensen, OBJ
February 19, 2026

The Carleton Tavern on Parkdale Avenue will be torn down and rebuilt as part of a proposal to build a 38-storey residential tower in Hintonburg.

According to planning documents, Taggart and Stantec Consulting Ltd. propose to redevelop a 38,072-square-foot property at 340 Parkdale Ave., just north of Parkdale Park and the Parkdale Public Market.

The proposed mixed-use residential highrise would feature a six-storey L-shaped podium — built around the Carleton Tavern building — and contain 465 units. It would also include a four-level underground parking garage with 322 parking spaces.

In the design brief, the applicants said the surrounding neighbourhood is “highly walkable” and “transit supported,” adding that the project would “meaningfully (contribute) to Ottawa’s housing supply by introducing a substantial number of new units in a range of sizes suited to diverse household needs.”

In addition to residential, the proposal calls for 5,640 square feet of ground-floor commercial space and 3,251 square feet of restaurant area, as well as an open plaza and courtyard.

According to the planning rationale for the proposal, the site is owned entirely by Taggart and is occupied by retail stores and a warehouse, as well as the Carleton Tavern, which the design brief describes as a “long-standing community landmark.”

Due to age, structural deterioration and required site remediation, the brief proposes demolishing the original tavern and rebuilding it entirely.

It added that the tavern would be the “massing anchor” for the development and would remain a free-standing structure.

“The new Tavern will re-establish the prominent corner facade, while the northern portion, originally a simple stucco volume with limited openings, will be reimagined as a contemporary extension,” the brief said.

“This allows for improved activation, increased transparency, and opportunities for public art consistent with the artistic expression historically found on the block. The surrounding plaza and courtyard are organized to reinforce the Tavern’s place within the neighbourhood without overstating its architectural significance.”

The planning rationale added that, during pre-application consultation, city heritage staff confirmed they would not recommend that city council add the Carleton Tavern to the city’s Heritage Register or designate it as a heritage property under the Ontario Heritage Act.

“The owner expressed their interest in commemorating the tavern through efforts to maintain a similar type use and presence on site,” the document said. “The proposed conceptual development includes a new two-storey restaurant building that will have a similar look and function as the existing Carleton Tavern.”

https://obj.ca/carleton-tavern-demolished-rebuilt-highrise-parkdale/

[rocketphish]

Let the Carleton Tavern die a dignified death
There's no need to rebuild the tavern with high-quality anything when the area gets redeveloped.

By Brigitte Pellerin, Ottawa Citizen
Published Feb 20, 2026 | Last updated 1 day ago



At the risk of overwhelming you with get-off-my-lawn energy, I refuse to let the Carleton Tavern get “reimagined” without protest.

The area on Parkdale Avenue between Oxford and Armstrong Streets is being turned into a 38-storey mixed-use building and as part of the exercise the developer, Taggart, needs to destroy the old tavern for reasons having to do with age, general decrepitude, and also Father Time having done his job rather well on this particular corner of Hintonburg.

A consultant report said they will rebuild the tavern “using high-quality stone and masonry to restore its familiar presence on Parkdale Avenue.”

Uh, no thank you. If I wanted high-quality stone or masonry or furniture or grub, I wouldn’t go to the Carleton. When I go to the Carleton — and yes, I do sometimes go to the Carleton — it is precisely for the tavern ambience. Which ain’t high-quality anything.

I am old enough to remember when taverns didn’t accept women. I don’t know if that was as prevalent a custom here as it was in Quebec City where I grew up. In the taverns of my misspent youth, there was a salt shaker on each table because the beer was so bland you had to add flavour to it. And you never ordered just one beer. They always came in two. Food was … whatever rancid peanuts the owner felt his customers deserved.

People went to the tavern to socialize with like-minded folks and to drink cheap salted swill. Today we’ve evolved far enough to have food that’s solidly mediocre and very tolerable beer. In the interest of full disclosure, I should say that I have not ventured very far into the Carleton food menu because I eat a clean, high-protein diet, but I certainly enjoy the CT Pilsner they sell at exceedingly reasonable prices. Like $11.99 for a personal pitcher, which is perfect for a casual evening with friends followed by a bike ride or walk home like the responsible tavern-goer I am.

What I especially enjoy about establishments like the Carleton is that nobody there gives a hoot about the fact that I’m wearing my favourite writing hoodie, the one that has a few holes in the sleeves because I wear it so often and refuse to throw it out.

If I went to a fine establishment with high-quality masonry, my attire would earn me a few side eyes. At the Carleton, I look better than the furniture. This is priceless.

“The new Tavern will re-establish the prominent corner facade, while the northern portion, originally a simple stucco volume with limited openings, will be reimagined as a contemporary extension,” the developer’s report continues. “This allows for improved activation, increased transparency, and opportunities for public art consistent with the artistic expression historically found on the block.”

First of all, what the heck does any of this mean? What in tarnation is improved activation? It doesn’t say tavern at all, not even the heavily reimagined kind.

The building that houses the Carleton was built in the late 1890s and has served as a watering hole for nearly a century after a few years housing a general store. It’s time to let it go.

I am sad to lose such a historic institution. But I want to remember it for what it was, not some reimagined hipster version of it.

Let the Carleton Tavern die a dignified death.

Brigitte Pellerin (they/them) is an Ottawa writer.

https://ottawacitizen.com/opinion/carleton-tavern

[skyscraperaccount]

Nothing stops you from remembering The Carleton, Pellerin.

[harls]

Originally Posted by skyscraperaccount

Nothing stops you from remembering The Carleton, Pellerin.

I think she's objecting to the reincarnation being called the Carleton. Call it the Parkdale Poorhouse or Tunney Mow or whatever mish mash of British-Scottish names you can think of and let the Carleton die.

[ponyboycurtis]

Originally Posted by harls

I think she's objecting to the reincarnation being called the Carleton. Call it the Parkdale Poorhouse or Tunney Mow or whatever mish mash of British-Scottish names you can think of and let the Carleton die.

My random thought process is thinking they should do a for fun auction and sell off chairs and tables and beer taps and anything else even remotely interesting and donate it all to a charity.

[J.OT13]

Originally Posted by ponyboycurtis

My random thought process is thinking they should do a for fun auction and sell off chairs and tables and beer taps and anything else even remotely interesting and donate it all to a charity.

That would be great. Avoids waste as well.

[Davis137]

I only drank at the Carleton a couple of times with one of my downstairs neighbors when I lived on Bullman Street. It was very much an oldschool bar, with an oldschool crowd, and stank of spilled beer on the floor, and fried food...not many venues like it around anymore...

Parkdale and Hintonburg are changing so much, so fast...

[rocketphish]

Saving Carleton Tavern ‘not feasible,’ firm behind plan to demolish historic pub says

David Sali, OBJ
March 10, 2026

The developer behind a plan to replace the historic Carleton Tavern with a new pub and mixed-use highrise says it looked at other options to preserve at least part of the 130-year-old structure but ultimately decided it could not be saved. Taggart Realty Management has filed a proposal to build a 38-storey highrise with 465 rental apartments on the Hintonburg corner that now houses the venerable pub, which has operated on the site since 1951. Taggart plans to demolish the current structure, parts of which have existed since 1896, and build a new pub on the southeast corner of Parkdale Avenue and Armstrong Street.

In an email to OBJ last week, Taggart president Jeff Parkes said the soil and underground water at the site, which covers nearly an acre, are contaminated and need to be remediated, “which involves excavating about four storeys deep across the entire property.” In addition, Parkes said the city is asking Taggart to leave space along Parkdale Avenue to accommodate a future widening of the road. “Both of these require the removal of the tavern, and although we investigated moving or retaining part of the tavern, it was determined to not be feasible given the building's age and condition,” he added. The Carleton Tavern has long been one of Hintonburg’s most recognizable landmarks. Originally a small general store, the building eventually morphed into a hotel and restaurant before being expanded and converted to its current use. The building is not a designated site under the Ontario Heritage Act and is not listed in the city’s heritage register. Planning documents recently filed by Taggart describe the rebuilt tavern as “the anchor for the entire redevelopment.” The company says the new building will resemble the existing pub’s “original form” and will feature “high-quality stone and masonry.” Parkes said the new two-storey, 3,250-square-foot tavern “will be rebuilt in the likeness of the existing building,” adding Taggart is “considering retaining some of the original decor, such as the stained glass windows, the double doors, the beer fridge and the interior wall panelling, which could be re-purposed into the new building.” In addition to the tavern, the site is currently occupied by other low-rise buildings that contain retail stores and a warehouse. Taggart’s plan calls for a 38-storey mixed-use residential tower with an L-shaped, six-storey podium. The building would contain 465 rental apartments in a mix of one-, two- and three-bedroom units along with more than 5,600 square feet of commercial space and a four-level underground garage containing 322 parking spaces. Parkes said the retail space would include five separate units on the ground floor of the highrise in addition to the rebuilt Carleton Tavern next door. “We are interested in a mix of small-scale tenants that serve the community similar to what is on the property now; a coffee shop, bike shop, personal service retail, restaurants or a small grocer would all be great for the site,” he said. The proposal also includes about 9,100 square feet of privately owned public space. In addition, the design brief says the developer “envisions closing Armstrong Street or transforming it into a woonerf-style, pedestrian-priority environment.” Parkes told OBJ a woonerf-style street “has limited access for vehicles,” adding such roads have historically “been residential streets with limited demand” for traffic.

The city already closes Armstrong Street to cars on Wednesday evenings in the summer so merchants can host a night market, “which has been very successful,” Parkes said. He said it will ultimately be up to the city to decide whether the street should be off-limits to vehicles year-round.

“The vision for Armstrong would be to have it partially closed to traffic to allow for visitors to the Parkdale Park and Market to seamlessly access the public space and shops within the new development,” he added. Taggart acquired the site, which is located just south of the Tunney’s Pasture LRT station, in 2022 from two different groups. Noting its proximity to light rail as well as amenities such as the Parkdale Market and shops along Wellington Street, Parkes described it as “a focal point for housing intensification within the city's planning policies.” Parkes said Taggart plans to “work with city staff and Kitchissippi Coun. Jeff Leiper) to get their support for the application,” noting the firm has yet to file a site plan control application for the project.

As a result, the existing Carleton Tavern “will remain in place for at least a few more years,” he added.

Taggart purchased the tavern business along with the property in 2022. The pub’s current operators have been managing the pub since 2023, but whether they will be interested in running the new business “is yet to be seen,” Parkes said. The tavern’s operators did not immediately return messages from OBJ on Tuesday. While Taggart’s plans to demolish the iconic pub have sparked concern among some residents, Parkes said he believes the community will embrace the project. “We still need to work through the remaining planning process, but we are confident that the city will support the development,” he said.

https://obj.ca/saving-carleton-tavern-not-feasible-firm-says/

[J.OT13]

Some updates: https://devapps.ottawa.ca/en/applications/D01-01-26-0002/details