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Old Posted Jan 10, 2026, 3:01 PM
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I took a short walk on the recently completed (save for some trees/landscaping that will be done in the spring) Dutch Village Road. I give it two thumbs up. The vibe of this area is getting better and better... this in spite of the new-ish building on the left in the second pic which is tres ugly.

PXL_20260109_172350375 by A.J. Forsythe, on Flickr


PXL_20260109_172142531 by A.J. Forsythe, on Flickr
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Old Posted May 26, 2026, 2:01 PM
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There are new traffic lights installed but not yet operational

On Alderney and Dundas St / Patuo'qn Street (the new street)

They have an all-black vintage look to the poles
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Patuo'qn Street (the new street)
Any idea on how that would be pronounced?

Pah-too-oh-ken? Patwo-kn?
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Old Posted May 28, 2026, 10:56 AM
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Any idea on how that would be pronounced?

Pah-too-oh-ken? Patwo-kn?
I’m quite certain that P is actually pronounced as a B and T is pronounced as a D
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Old Posted May 28, 2026, 11:28 AM
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Any idea on how that would be pronounced?

Pah-too-oh-ken? Patwo-kn?
"Performative", perhaps.
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Old Posted May 28, 2026, 12:49 PM
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Wink

Based on this guide, it seems like it would be:

Paw-du-oh-ch-n

I guess the P and T make a P or B, and T or D sound depending on whether they're between two vowels or not. Seems like all that performance taught me something today
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Old Posted May 28, 2026, 9:05 PM
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^^^ Thanks!

I'm guessing that very few people will know how to pronounce it in reality.

Practically, though, I do wonder if it could cause any issues for requesting delivery or taxi services, or more seriously 911 calls.
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Old Posted May 28, 2026, 9:59 PM
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I don't mind a mix of place names of different origins, and I think Mi'kmaq culture is/was underrepresented in Halifax. However, it makes sense to use an English transliteration or at least Latin alphabet and at most put the other language in smaller text. Much like how French is typically handled (and it can be flipped in a majority French area). People don't get offended about "Montreal" or "Paris" pronounced in English, aside from maybe equally performative types.

Around here they are introducing street names like šxʷməθkʷəy̓əmasəm using complex alphabets designed for linguists who originally aimed to document and preserve oral traditions. Let's be real: people are copy-pasting those and extremely few can read it.

I posted this before but I was hoping something constructive could be done in Peace and Friendship Park, like bringing back the Cornwallis statue but putting interpretive materials that explains the history and what the point of the new park name is (which probably sounds silly to people who don't know about treaties). There could be more statues added of Mi'kmaq and French figures as well.

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Old Posted May 29, 2026, 12:39 PM
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Around here they are introducing street names like šxʷməθkʷəy̓əmasəm using complex alphabets designed for linguists who originally aimed to document and preserve oral traditions. Let's be real: people are copy-pasting those and extremely few can read it.
One would have thought that even municipal planners would have realized the need to use the Latin/English alphabet in our fair land. But noooo...
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Old Posted May 29, 2026, 1:13 PM
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One would have thought that even municipal planners would have realized the need to use the Latin/English alphabet in our fair land. But noooo...
"our fair land"
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I have gotten fairly good at correctly pronouncing Shubenacadie, and from traveling on the bus past the community college on Pleasant st, I know that Mawiomi is fairly straight forward; with some practice I will be ok with the new streets.
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I personally don’t really care what they name the streets as long as nobody minds if I mispronounce them. If it doesn’t result in a 911 call going to the wrong place, then there’s no negatives that are important enough that it should be an issue. Once people become used to them, then common mispronunciations will be learned and accepted, IMHO. I wonder how many people these days pronounce Crichton Avenue properly…
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Hey, people still can't agree if it's EYESville or AISLE-ville Street
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I wonder how many people these days pronounce Crichton Avenue properly…
...or Gottingen, or Blowers...
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...or Gottingen, or Blowers...
My wife says that I pronounce Gottingen wrong,
I say Got a gin
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Old Posted May 29, 2026, 8:51 PM
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My wife says that I pronounce Gottingen wrong,
I say Got a gin
And how does she say it?
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Old Posted May 29, 2026, 9:07 PM
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Let’s just stay away from Welsh names if we can, though. I can just imagine how much fun we would have with “Cwmrhydyceirw Road”, for example…
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Old Posted May 29, 2026, 9:10 PM
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My wife says that I pronounce Gottingen wrong,
I say Got a gin
I grew up saying “Got i (small i) gen” but have long wondered if the “n” should be pronounced. Is there any actual consensus on that?
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Old Posted May 29, 2026, 10:43 PM
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Isn't the correct German pronunciation like goet-ing-en? Goet sounds like saying gut+goat at the same time.

I recall people used to refer to it as gotta-get-a-gun as that whole area was "the hood" in the 1980s/90s before being cleaned up.
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Old Posted May 29, 2026, 11:16 PM
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Gottingen is a place in Germany, wiki gives the origin of the name.
And also the pronunciation, but it’s a tad confusing.
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