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Old Posted May 13, 2026, 4:38 PM
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I mean what do you expect all architecture is derivative. I mean a form with three buildings in the city as being some critique of Vancouver architecture is a stretch even for the stupidest troll on SSP.
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I mean what do you expect all architecture is derivative. I mean a form with three buildings in the city as being some critique of Vancouver architecture is a stretch even for the stupidest troll on SSP.

All I know is these stacked ones drive my window-washing friend crazy
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Old Posted May 13, 2026, 5:14 PM
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I don't know but if the building is more slender maybe they'll totally dump the box on box concept?

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On Tuesday, Shillito said “all the parties are still at the table” working on trying to come up with a shared vision for the waterfront, but “it’s hard to put a time frame” on when that plan might be completed, let alone when construction could start.
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Next, Cheng and his team will work on designing the new, more slender building, which he said could take a year or more.

Despite the required redesign, Cheng said it’s “a huge deal” that city hall has given the green light — albeit with conditions — for a tower at this particularly controversial location.

“This is clarity. For a developer, clarity is everything,” Cheng said. “This is now for real.”
https://vancouversun.com/news/dan-fumano...ersial-waterfront-tower-but-with-changes
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Hopefully, "redesign" is just a diplomatic way of saying.... "...back to the drawing board and starting from scratch again, (....and not just minor tweaking, fiddling and nipping at the edges of this current monstrosity of a form)"


I suspect the city gave a green light because they probably would prefer to see something built there rather than not.
But even they are not completely deaf to the prevailing sentiment about this proposal.
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19,000 sq ft floorplates are still quite large.

Former MNP Tower has floorplates of 8,000 sq ft
TD Tower (Pacific Centre) has floorplates of 16,000 sq ft.
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Well, it's the former MNP tower for a reason. They hated that plate.

Small plates don't work in the City any more. Vancouver thankfully has moved a bit closer to the big leagues and with international players driving much of the office demand the rinky-dink towers of the past don't really cut it anymore.

And keep in mind the box CF can build in is in the 19k SF range, once you design the building you won't get that much space on the plate itself.
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Hopefully, "redesign" is just a diplomatic way of saying.... "...back to the drawing board and starting from scratch again, (....and not just minor tweaking, fiddling and nipping at the edges of this current monstrosity of a form)"
It's not back to the drawing board entirely per se, but the erratic floor plates no longer fit in the envelope designated by the City so I'd expect a dramatically different looking building.
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It's not just him! Deloitte Summit on Georgia was designed by OSO Tokyo and Merrick Architecture:



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Vancouver: City of Jenga



With the least-efficient office floorplates I've ever seen in my career.
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I mean what do you expect all architecture is derivative. I mean a form with three buildings in the city as being some critique of Vancouver architecture is a stretch even for the stupidest troll on SSP.
Don't forget Vancouver House, Central (Quebec Street) and the original Plaza of Nations proposal.

Both can be true: it's a little reductive to blame Vancouver as a whole, but at the same time even half a dozen in this style is too many.
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It's not back to the drawing board entirely per se, but the erratic floor plates no longer fit in the envelope designated by the City so I'd expect a dramatically different looking building.
I'm okay with that.

'dramatically different' from this........


......mathematically speaking, has to be an improvement.
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I mean what do you expect all architecture is derivative. I mean a form with three buildings in the city as being some critique of Vancouver architecture is a stretch even for the stupidest troll on SSP.
Derivative, sure. But this isn’t that. The last two office towers built in Vancouver have both been stacked boxes. This would be the 3rd in a row. 3rd. In a row.
This isn’t derivative. This is just laziness.
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Derivative, sure. But this isn’t that. The last two office towers built in Vancouver have both been stacked boxes. This would be the 3rd in a row. 3rd. In a row.
This isn’t derivative. This is just laziness.
The last office building completed Downtown was B6 at 1090 West Pender. The one completed before that was Vancouver Centre II on Seymour Street. The office building completed before that was The Post, and at the end of 2022, 320 Granville. None are stacked boxes.
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The last office building completed Downtown was B6 at 1090 West Pender. The one completed before that was Vancouver Centre II on Seymour Street. The office building completed before that was The Post, and at the end of 2022, 320 Granville. None are stacked boxes.
Sorry I thought the Deloitte tower was completed more recently.

Regardless… for such an iconic spot in a such a photogenic part of the skyline, I wish they would do something more inspired and not a mimic of two other office towers recently completed in the last 3.5 years.
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