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Old Posted May 13, 2026, 12:41 PM
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You don't give up on a strong team like that and a guy like Schiefele unless you are a shitty teammate. I will die on that hill.
I think you underestimate the power of $$$.
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Old Posted May 13, 2026, 2:20 PM
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I was sad to see Ehlers go, but the way some people talk like players owe their lives to the team/city is crazy. He was with the Jets organization for 11 years. That's longer than most guys will play anywhere. One team careers are very rare and cannot be the expected case. Careers are short and I don't blame any player who wants to try something new after a decade. I would love for him to still be a Jet, but you can't expect to hold onto every good player forever.
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Old Posted May 13, 2026, 2:47 PM
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I was sad to see Ehlers go, but the way some people talk like players owe their lives to the team/city is crazy. He was with the Jets organization for 11 years. That's longer than most guys will play anywhere. One team careers are very rare and cannot be the expected case. Careers are short and I don't blame any player who wants to try something new after a decade. I would love for him to still be a Jet, but you can't expect to hold onto every good player forever.
Yes this is professional sports. Its ultimately just a business for the athletes and the owners. The only people expected to show undying loyalty are the ticket holders.

Professional sports is such a strange business. It's a form of entertainment, like seeing a play or listening to a concert. However, if the actors in a play can't remember their lines or musicians can't play their instruments, there's no expectation on the ticket-buying public to keep on supporting them. Pro sports teams can be terrible, but there's still the expectation of undying support. In that way I guess pro sports is closer to casino gambling than other entertainments; "you pays your money, you takes your chances". Maybe that's why there's such a close relationship between sports and gambling.

That being said, let's hope the Jets sort some things out before next season. And Go Bombers. And yay Goldeyes. It's always gambling season.
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Old Posted May 13, 2026, 4:14 PM
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A little off-topic, but with things quiet on the Jets front, I came across an interesting article (published before the PWHL Takeover Tour at CLC). Since Hamilton was just awarded a PWHL team, it got me wondering whether Winnipeg could support one too.

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Winnipeg Has Quietly Become A Leading PWHL Expansion Contender Before The League Has Even Visited The Market
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Mar 17, 2026



The debate around where the PWHL will expand, and by how many teams continues to rage. There are some within the league that believe a quiet darkhorse has climbed into the mix of true contenders. That market is Winnipeg.
The conversation surrounding PWHL expansion typically revolves around a small handful of markets. In the United States the noise has clambered to the tune of Detroit, Denver, Chicago, and Washington. In Canada, it's been Edmonton, Quebec, City, Hamilton, and Halifax.

Through that noise however, there are many within the PWHL who believe another market has quietly emerged as a contender for expansion - Winnipeg.

Aside from a handful of resale tickets, Winnipeg's upcoming stop on the PWHL Takeover Tour at the 15,225 seat Canada Life Centre is sold out.

Canada Life Centre is a busy building, already home to the NHL's Winnipeg Jets and AHL's Manitoba Moose. It's perhaps the primary reason why many wrote Winnipeg off in the discussion of PWHL expansion.

Winnipeg appears ready and waiting to support professional women's hockey in Manitoba.

"True North, the Winnipeg Jets and Manitoba Moose are committed to growing female hockey through a variety of programs and initiatives," True North, the company who owns the Jets, Moose, and Canada Life Center, vice president of marketing Annie Chipman Stockl told The Hockey News.

"Hosting a PWHL game in Winnipeg brings an exciting opportunity for young female athletes to see what is possible and what they can strive toward in the sport of hockey. It’s especially exciting to welcome home three Manitoba athletes – Kati Tabin, Jocelyne Larocque and Logan Angers – who are already an inspiration for our community, but this will only grow, seeing them in action, in person on the professional stage. Our whole community is looking forward to cheering them on and seeing an incredible display of talent from both the Ottawa Charge and Montreal Victoire rosters.”

Manitoba and Winnipeg have a long history of women's hockey including teams like the Winnipeg Eatons, Winnipeg Royals, Winnipeg Rangers, and Winnipeg Olympics in the first half of the 1900s. By the 1920s, women were playing hockey at the University of Manitoba.

With western expansion this season to Seattle and Vancouver, the PWHL continues to eye expansion further west. Winnipeg could become a regional rival for Minnesota, and would be another bridge between the original teams in the east, and the growing fan base and their teams in the west. The PWHL's desire to move west is why many believed Denver, Edmonton, Chicago, and Detroit were more likely than Quebec City, Washington, Hamilton, and Halifax.

There remains hurdles. In Denver, Detroit, Edmonton, Washington, and Winnipeg, the PWHL does not have a venue where they could gain equal footing, and in some circumstances could be at the mercy of the NHL teams who own or operate the businesses. Some of those markets are ready and willing to work with the PWHL, while others may be more willing to have an annual Takeover Tour stop, but not to welcome another tenant.

Time is running out for the PWHL to decide whether they'll move forward with two or four new franchises next season as the league looks to move from eight, to 10 or 12 teams. As it stands, Winnipeg has become a market with significantly more chatter surrounding the city in recent weeks. Whether or not the Manitoba market gains a permanent PWHL franchise, or is simply a popular stop for the PWHL Takeover Tour is yet to be seen.
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Old Posted May 13, 2026, 4:47 PM
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I dont think Winnipeg can support PWHL and the Moose at the same time.
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franchise recently awarded are Detroit, Hamilton & (to be announced) Vegas. tough market in Winnipeg, would need another 10,000 seat venue then as not enuf open nights to accommodate all 3 plus concerts
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franchise recently awarded are Detroit, Hamilton & (to be announced) Vegas. tough market in Winnipeg, would need another 10,000 seat venue then as not enuf open nights to accommodate all 3 plus concerts
I disagree, Madison Square Garden hosts about 320 events annually, so it's doable with careful planning. The PWHL regular season is only 30 game so CLC would only need to accommodate 15 or so home games.
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I dont think Winnipeg can support PWHL and the Moose at the same time.
the lowest attended team in the NHL (5th lowest AHL) should not be bringing in competition....the market for NHL is tenuous as it is.
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Old Posted May 13, 2026, 7:07 PM
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the lowest attended team in the NHL (5th lowest AHL) should not be bringing in competition....the market for NHL is tenuous as it is.
Come on, the Jets had the SECOND lowest attendance avg at 14,228!

Utah's had the lowest due to the obstructed arena seating, 12,478.
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Old Posted May 13, 2026, 7:09 PM
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the lowest attended team in the NHL (5th lowest AHL) should not be bringing in competition....the market for NHL is tenuous as it is.

^This.

The market is over-saturated, as it is. The WHL Ice found that out the hard way.
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Old Posted May 13, 2026, 7:21 PM
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I've been thinking about this with all the PWHL expansions going on. I honestly do not think it is a go at this time. It's a slightly different market than Jets/Moose. If TNSE wants to make a go of it, then go ahead I guess. If it's somebody else, where would they play? surely not at Canada Life. And look how that worked out for the ICE.
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^This.

The market is over-saturated, as it is. The WHL Ice found that out the hard way.
Perhaps, but it could have been lack of proper venue especially since the plan to build the arena off McGillivray fell through.
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Old Posted May 14, 2026, 2:22 AM
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the lowest attended team in the NHL (5th lowest AHL) should not be bringing in competition....the market for NHL is tenuous as it is.
Bingo.
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Old Posted May 14, 2026, 2:40 AM
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Perhaps, but it could have been lack of proper venue especially since the plan to build the arena off McGillivray fell through.
Naww, too saturated.

The Moose don't even strive to make money just break even. Having the team in the same city saves time and money not shuttling players across the country when they get sent up and down. Also more attractive for the tweener players that go between the AHL and NHL.
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All PWHL teams are owned by the league (which is owned by the Mark Walter group, billionaire co-owner of the LA Dodgers). If they came to Winnipeg it wouldn't be True North attempting to make a go of it. Their main involvement would be renting out CLC.

This ownership model is actually one of their issues with expansion. Rumours are markets like Edmonton have lost out because the arena owners want to own the PWHL team and won't cooperate otherwise.

With all that said, I would love a PWHL team here but long term I'm not sure it's viable. As TV said, Jets attendance doesn't exactly scream Winnipeg is ready for more hockey teams.
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Come on, the Jets had the SECOND lowest attendance avg at 14,228!
Fun with stats! (FYI I rounded down all my percentages)

14,228 is roughly 92% capacity of the arena (seating 15,321 for hockey).

Average attendance in the NHL last year was 17,651. If the Jets sold out every game they would be at roughly 86% of the league average. Fourteen teams had an average seating above that mark. With 32 teams, that means over half (14) teams had below average attendance.

The NHL averaged 97.5% capacity last season, meaning Winnipeg average attendance was roughly 94% of the league average.

What does this mean? On the one hand it's impossible for the Jets to get near the average attendance of the league. On the other hand they have little "wiggle" room, which should come as no surprise to the owners or the fans. If we're going to compare ourselves to other NHL cities, I think Jets fans have an inordinate amount of responsibility for the continued existence of their team, possibly greater than anywhere else.
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In other news, if the Jets were to make a coaching change, Chris Knoblauch just became available, although I am unsure what his coaching style is.
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In other news, if the Jets were to make a coaching change, Chris Knoblauch just became available, although I am unsure what his coaching style is.
Wasn't his coaching style in Edmonton "let Connor McDavid and Leon Draisaitl win every game for us"?
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Old Posted May 14, 2026, 5:50 PM
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Hard no on knobby and Berube. I guess this also takes Cassidy off the table as he will undoubtedly go to one of those two teams.

Also, based on the year end pressers and such, Arniel isn't going anywhere.
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^ his coaching style is "McDavid got me this job".
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