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I hope this tower doesn't get Amazon'd.

Mr. Griffin should realize his tower will last hundreds- maybe a thousand years- and just ignore The Zohan.
Amazon'd?

I don't think Zohran has any say in this.
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Amazon'd?

I don't think Zohran has any say in this.
It's breaking all over the news wires that Mr. Griffin may axe the deal because of The Zohan.
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It's breaking all over the news wires that Mr. Griffin may axe the deal because of The Zohan.
Awful news. Why would he care what Zohran thinks? I wonder if this is a done deal and hope other projects don't follow.

This is what I predicted a ways back but you guys were naively optimistic.
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Griffin was arguing on some cable station, saying if Mamdani is so anti-rich then rich corps could halt expansion.

Pretty big leap to then assume this means he's gonna move his company to Timbuktu bc Mamdani was mean to him. I don't like Mamdani (or Griffin) but that is ridiculous take.
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Awful news. Why would he care what Zohran thinks? I wonder if this is a done deal and hope other projects don't follow.

This is what I predicted a ways back but you guys were naively optimistic.
You need to stroke your kitty and relax. NYC is the Financial Capital of the World.
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Griffin was arguing on some cable station, saying if Mamdani is so anti-rich then rich corps could halt expansion.

Pretty big leap to then assume this means he's gonna move his company to Timbuktu bc Mamdani was mean to him. I don't like Mamdani (or Griffin) but that is ridiculous take.
It was actually stated by the COO of the company in a memo to employees.
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NYC is the Financial Capital of the World.
Sure but that doesn't mean skyscrapers will necessarily be built. Look at London or Tokyo, they build but not that much.

Found it...


Ken Griffin’s Citadel claps back at Mamdani’s viral ‘penthouse’ video — threatens to scrap $6B NYC development

https://nypost.com/2026/04/23/business/k...o-threatens-to-scrap-6b-nyc-development/
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This is what I predicted a ways back but you guys were naively optimistic.
Don't be an idiot. Griffin possibly pulling back his new tower over politics is just that, politics. Vornado will find another partner if Griffin backs out.

We don't do politics for a reason, but when other real estate developers say we are on the right track, you don't hear a peep about it.



https://nypost.com/2026/04/23/business/k...o-threatens-to-scrap-6b-nyc-development/

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Griffin — whose net worth is estimated by Forbes at $50 billion — wasn’t amused. A top exec at his hedge fund sent a companywide email Thursday afternoon blasting the mayor’s comments – and hinting at a potential reversal on a massive Midtown project.

“We are about to commence the redevelopment of 350 Park Avenue, creating 6,000 highly paid construction jobs and supporting the creation of more than 15,000 permanent jobs in mid-town New York,” wrote Chief Operating Officer Gerald Beeson in an email obtained by The Post.

“The project – if we move forward – will entail more than $6 billion dollars of spending.”
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It was actually stated by the COO of the company in a memo to employees.
Yeah, I read the Crains article.

It's still an enormous leap. This is obvious politics, on both sides. Citadel isn't moving its biggest office bc Griffin didn't like a dumb photo op.
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Yeah, I read the Crains article.

It's still an enormous leap. This is obvious politics, on both sides. Citadel isn't moving its biggest office bc Griffin didn't like a dumb photo op.
No one cares if he does. It's not stopping this development, even if it was delayed a little. There's a battle for prime office space in New York, especially on Park Avenue. It's a city for all New Yorkers, not just the billionaires. Obviously, nobody is going to be happy about paying a little more. But the people who do business in the city realize certain things are necessary.


https://finance.yahoo.com/markets/stocks/articles/sl-green-realty-q1-earnings-200427830.html

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We feel good about the city and state budget situation as well. The rating agencies did send a message to the new administration about wanting to see some efficiencies in the budget being negotiated now, and the budget that will be in place at the city level by June, and I have every confidence the budget gap will be solved through revenue enhancements, expense control, and support from the state. As has been reported, one piece of that sounds like it will be a new pied-à-terre tax the governor announced yesterday with the support of the mayor and the city council speaker.

Once you get past the notion that we need to find some revenue enhancements as part of this budget process, give credit to the governor for taking a pragmatic and surgical approach to ensure that all New York City residents are paying a fair share. This is a concept that has the support of many New Yorkers because it narrows the focus and impact to the highest earning non-New York City residents who otherwise pay no New York City income tax and benefit from New York City's exceptionally low residential real estate taxes.

Meanwhile, Griffin is still spending, 220 CPS wasn't enough...


https://nypost.com/2026/04/17/real-estate/ken-griffin-spends-38m-for-neighbors-home-at-740-park/

Ken Griffin splashes out $38M for his neighbor’s home at NYC’s most exclusive co-op

By Mary K. Jacob
April 17, 2026


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Call him the king of the block. Ken Griffin has been on a shopping spree and he isn’t done buying.

The Citadel founder and hedge fund billionaire quietly scooped up a duplex at 740 Park Ave. this month for $38 million in an off-market transaction, sources told the Wall Street Journal.

The unit sits directly next door to the apartment he purchased last year for $45 million from Julia Koch, widow of the billionaire industrialist David Koch.

The financier already owns an apartment at 220 Central Park South, widely regarded as the finest condominium tower in the city, for which he paid roughly $238 million — a national record — in 2019.

Beyond Manhattan, his property portfolio spans a $122 million London mansion steps from Buckingham Palace, an $84.45 million Hamptons compound, and a collection of residences across Miami Beach and Palm Beach, including the $1 billion home dubbed the most expensive in the world.
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Yeah, I read the Crains article.

It's still an enormous leap. This is obvious politics, on both sides. Citadel isn't moving its biggest office bc Griffin didn't like a dumb photo op.
I hope not, who knows how long it would take for Vornado to find someone else, or if they will in reasonable time.

Agreed that it's an extreme reaction.
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I can’t wait for this icon to rise in the Financial Capital of the World.









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People, no one cares for your politics. If you want to engage each other via PM, knock yourselves out.
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Not only will the new tower be iconic, but Park Avenue generally is going to look incredible!

It's good to be the Financial Capital of the World!

This looks great. I prefer the version without the bike lanes. Pedestrian space should have priority. Also, having to traverse hazardous bike lanes to access the pedestrian area would be an anathema.





https://nypost.com/2026/04/29/us-news/do...ing-busy-roads-into-pedestrian-paradise/



https://www.nyc.gov/mayors-office/news/2...sign-concepts-to-put-the--park--back-in-
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Both options look great. I prefer the bike lanes option, since there are no separated north-south bike lanes in central Midtown.
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Both options look great. I prefer the bike lanes option, since there are no separated north-south bike lanes in central Midtown.
They have them on 6th.
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This tower is going to be iconic.

Does that represent the initial version which was around 1,585 feet tall or the newer version which is around 1,415 feet tall?

Can you imagine how extraordinary this icon will look on the newly landscaped boulevard?
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It seems from looking at the pics that this is the 1400 height as they seem to be showing the canceled Tower Fifth in green, which was supposed to be 1550 or so. Which brings the question, did they reduce the height early on as the Tower Fifth seemed to have been canceled in 2024.
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It seems from looking at the pics that this is the 1400 height as they seem to be showing the canceled Tower Fifth in green, which was supposed to be 1550 or so. Which brings the question, did they reduce the height early on as the Tower Fifth seemed to have been canceled in 2024.
Good point.

This is going to be great.
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