Canadian Airport Thread II

[Airboy]

Originally Posted by TorontoDrew

Cool picture! I can't imagine having to walk to the far end of that lot mid winter to get my car.

They have run a shuttle.

[Dalreg]

Originally Posted by thenoflyzone

This isn't some social justice issue. It's about respecting the law. TS and Creebec aren't bound by the Offical Languages Act. Air Canada is. The CEO of AC, on occasion, speaks directly to customers. When he is exercising that particular function - which he clearly was 2 weeks ago - he should be speaking in both official languages. All that was required was a few sentences of french. That's it. He couldn't even deliver on that.



And yet, the very same PM you speak of had this to say about Rousseau's speech...

https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/video/9.7141928

...and about his retirement.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0nfKpQN3UM

We're not the ones who need to get on board, you are....

Forcing someone to speak a language even an official one is not how Canada should roll.

I speak to customers across the country daily, I don't speak french to any of them. My right as a Canadian.

[hollywoodcory]

WS has removed and cancelled planned YYZ-MDE for S26.

[thenoflyzone]

Originally Posted by hollywoodcory

WS has removed and cancelled planned YYZ-MDE for S26.

lol

I'm shocked.

Their first South American route announcement, and it doesn't even see the light of day. Their route planning department hard at work, ladies and gentlemen !

[thenoflyzone]

In other news, QR resumes YUL today. 3x weekly A350-1000

This means both QR and EK have resumed all their Canadian routes.

A lot of US stations still haven't recovered all their ME3 airlines, including SFO, BOS, SEA, ATL and MIA.

Of course, due to distance involved what with the detours around Iran, some US stations don't have any ME3 that have resumed service, such as LAX or IAH.

[Dominion301]

Thanks to the XLR from the 788, YUL-LIS this winter will be increasing from 3x to 5x weekly on AC: https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/260408-acnw26yullis

Also for summer 2027, YYZ is showing as a daily XLR: https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/260403-acns27yyzman

As for A220 Caribbean ops this winter (everything out of YOW is now showing as 223), I wonder if AC will aim to ETOPS 75 some of them? The 220 is TC certified up to ETOPS 180.

[casper]

Originally Posted by Dalreg

Forcing someone to speak a language even an official one is not how Canada should roll.

I speak to customers across the country daily, I don't speak french to any of them. My right as a Canadian.

Its your right as a Canada to deal with the federal government in either French or English.

You don't have a "right" to pick the language your employer uses or how they interact with their customers. It would be part of the job description. If your employer mostly sells to Latin America, your job description may require you to be able to speak Spanish as an example.

[thenoflyzone]

Originally Posted by Dominion301

As for A220 Caribbean ops this winter (everything out of YOW is now showing as 223), I wonder if AC will aim to ETOPS 75 some of them? The 220 is TC certified up to ETOPS 180.

Airframe/engine combo doesn't even need to be ETOPS certified to fly ETOPS 75.

Still, adding life rafts and survival gear to the A220 might not be cost effective, especially considering the benefits will only be felt on one route, YQB-PTP.

It's much simpler to convert that route to the Max 8, just like YQB-FDF, or operate it the long way around with the A220. It's only 1x weekly winter seasonal, after all.

As for Ottawa, the only route that comes close to entering ETOPS airspace is YOW-PUJ, and it can easily be flown without the need for ETOPS 75. Staying 60 minutes from an airport is a 1.6% detour at most. Same thing for YUL-AUA/SDQ.

So my opinion is that AC won't even bother with it. PD won't either I think. All signs point to them launching DR, Aruba and Barbados flights, and they can easily be flown without the need to go into ETOPS territory, especially from YYZ.

Barbados however, like YOW-LIR, is pushing the limits of the E295 in terms or range, especially on the return.

[RomanR27]

They ran YOW and YQB's sun program with the Lynx 7M8s which don't have ETOPS this winter so agreed they won't bother with the 223s. YQB has also been moved to the 223 for next winter, with the exception of YQB-FDF on the Rouge 7M8.

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by casper

Its your right as a Canada to deal with the federal government in either French or English.

You don't have a "right" to pick the language your employer uses or how they interact with their customers. It would be part of the job description. If your employer mostly sells to Latin America, your job description may require you to be able to speak Spanish as an example.

Air Canada has not been part of the "government" for decades.

[AuxTown]

Originally Posted by whatnext

Air Canada has not been part of the "government" for decades.

I was thinking the same thing....buuuut if Air Canada wants to have their hand out for subsidies every time the going gets tough then they should probably adhere to some government norms such as language policies.

[Zmonkey]

Originally Posted by AuxTown

I was thinking the same thing....buuuut if Air Canada wants to have their hand out for subsidies every time the going gets tough then they should probably adhere to some government norms such as language policies.

Air Canada follows every language policy, and actually does substantially more here than most.
The CEO not speaking French is about culture and politics, nothing about legality.

The CEO of Air Canada could only speak Spanish, and that is very much legal.

[Arrdeeharharharbour]

I wonder what will happen when Star Trek style universal translators become the norm?

[someone123]

It's debatable whether some of the flight attendants on AC flights around Western Canada are actually doing announcements in French.

[Alexcaban]

Originally Posted by someone123

It's debatable whether some of the flight attendants on AC flights around Western Canada are actually doing announcements in French.

Every single AC flight is crewed with at least 1 bilingual speaker on narrowbody and 2 on a widebody. So yes a simple YVR-YYC flight will have at least 1 FA doing French announcements. You'd also be surprised how many FA's are hired from Quebec to be based in YVR/YYC.

[jc_yyc_ca]

Originally Posted by someone123

It's debatable whether some of the flight attendants on AC flights around Western Canada are actually doing announcements in French.

From what I've seen the announcements in French are often from a recording, even if they have someone bilingual on board.

[jc_yyc_ca]

Feb stats for YYC. Transborder still dropping, but domestic and International showing decent gains.


Domestic - 858,754 +2.7%
Transboarder - 234,179,722 - -12.1%
International - 224,050 - +11.2%

Total 1,316,303 +0.8%

[Airboy]

Originally Posted by jc_yyc_ca

Feb stats for YYC. Transborder still dropping, but domestic and International showing decent gains.


Domestic - 858,754 +2.7%
Transboarder - 234,179,722 - -12.1%
International - 224,050 - +11.2%

Total 1,316,303 +0.8%

I expect all the Airports will show significant drops for Feb.

Just for People I know, Cyclists that usually head south this time have found cheaper options by going to southern Europe.

[thenoflyzone]

YUL Jan and Feb stats:

https://www.admtl.com/file?v=a715081c-e67b-4ee5-94e9-70f3cf56f07d&mod=preview

January

Domestic: 469,741 +6.5%
Tranborder: 329,172 -9.6%
International: 944,964 +9.3%

Total: 1,743,877 +4.4%

February

Domestic: 441,744 +6.9%
Tranborder: 316,801 -7.0%
International: 795,276 +6.9%

Total: 1,553,821 +3.8%

YTD Total: 3,297,698 +4.1%

[Innsertnamehere]

I don’t expect we’ll see transborder stabilize until August or September - that’s the point last year where people wouldn’t have had many trips pre-booked when Trump started his antics.