Regina Construction IV

[Stormer]

Originally Posted by The mayor

I thought six stories was allowed , the nimbys are lunatic's , good on you for posting nice looking apartments

I am not sure if the previous proponents ever received zoning approval for high-rise.

[The mayor]

Originally Posted by Crisis

That's simply hyperbole. Alberta has several very large data centres in the works. One near Edmonton has construction value of nearly $15 billion. The Regina data centre is great, but doesn't make it the centre of AI in Canada.

Are you calling the premier and the President of the Bell Canada liars?

[gecho111]

Originally Posted by Stormer

I am not sure if the previous proponents ever received zoning approval for high-rise.

I found this story mentioning its approval. I can't remember where I heard the previous developer Winchester pulled the plug.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/douglas-park-regina-apartment-1.7230787

[Stormer]

Originally Posted by gecho111

I found this story mentioning its approval. I can't remember where I heard the previous developer Winchester pulled the plug.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/douglas-park-regina-apartment-1.7230787

These large, new builds are hard to pull off for smaller to midsize developers. We will see if WestOak has sufficient horsepower to complete this and the several other projects in the works.

[The mayor]

Originally Posted by Stormer

I am not sure if the previous proponents ever received zoning approval for high-rise.

Apartment building looks 80% more horrible without the rooftop. People are so stupid. It’s unbelievable. Now look what you got.

[Festivus]

Originally Posted by Crisis

That's simply hyperbole. Alberta has several very large data centres in the works. One near Edmonton has construction value of nearly $15 billion. The Regina data centre is great, but doesn't make it the centre of AI in Canada.

Also, having 1 or 100 data centres in Regina doesn't make the city itself anything, since none of the money going in or out stays here. The only benefits are the construction jobs, property taxes (not for the city), and long-term jobs (not many).

[The mayor]

Originally Posted by Festivus

Also, having 1 or 100 data centres in Regina doesn't make the city itself anything, since none of the money going in or out stays here. The only benefits are the construction jobs, property taxes (not for the city), and long-term jobs (not many).

It’s only a couple of Pennie’s here and there
NOT
The Belldata Centre in Regina is expected to be a significant investment for the province.
It is part of a 300 MW AI data center project in Sherwood, Saskatchewan, which is the largest purpose-built AI data center in Canada.
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The project is projected to generate up to $12 billion in economic value, creating over 1,600 jobs.
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It aims to enhance Canada's AI capabilities and support the province's long-term economic growth.
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The facility will be linked to SaskTel fibre and SaskPower’s network, ensuring efficient power supply.
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Overall, the Belldata Centre is anticipated to contribute positively to Regina's economy and technological landscape.

www.bce.ca
Bell AI Fabric Expands National Network with 300 MW Data Centre in ...

[Festivus]

Originally Posted by The mayor

It’s only a couple of Pennie’s here and there
NOT
The Belldata Centre in Regina is expected to be a significant investment for the province.
It is part of a 300 MW AI data center project in Sherwood, Saskatchewan, which is the largest purpose-built AI data center in Canada.
2
The project is projected to generate up to $12 billion in economic value, creating over 1,600 jobs.
2
It aims to enhance Canada's AI capabilities and support the province's long-term economic growth.
2
The facility will be linked to SaskTel fibre and SaskPower’s network, ensuring efficient power supply.
1

Overall, the Belldata Centre is anticipated to contribute positively to Regina's economy and technological landscape.

www.bce.ca
Bell AI Fabric Expands National Network with 300 MW Data Centre in ...

I think like with any corporate project, you have to have some credulity with what the corporation is promising. There will absolutely be some permanent jobs (they claim 80, but similar projects in the US have 20-40), but the vast majority of the "1,600" jobs created will be for the months during construction. Definitely great for our construction industry (though many will be from outside the province due to specialized labour needed), but it's short-term.

Long-term, this project will:

• Create 40-80 local permanent jobs
• Use 7.5% of our entire provincial power grid
• Contribute property taxes to Sherwood (not Regina)

It's not a doomsday scenario like many claim, but at the same time...it's really not going to actually do a lot for Regina or the area. And if the AI bubble does burst (or perhaps just deflate), then it might not even ever be fully completed/operational to the extent they plan. So we shouldn't doomsay, but we also shouldn't go gaga over a corporate project that is going to primarily make money for people outside the province while they use our cheap electricity.

[Stormer]

Originally Posted by Festivus

I think like with any corporate project, you have to have some credulity with what the corporation is promising. There will absolutely be some permanent jobs (they claim 80, but similar projects in the US have 20-40), but the vast majority of the "1,600" jobs created will be for the months during construction. Definitely great for our construction industry (though many will be from outside the province due to specialized labour needed), but it's short-term.

Long-term, this project will:

• Create 40-80 local permanent jobs
• Use 7.5% of our entire provincial power grid
• Contribute property taxes to Sherwood (not Regina)

It's not a doomsday scenario like many claim, but at the same time...it's really not going to actually do a lot for Regina or the area. And if the AI bubble does burst (or perhaps just deflate), then it might not even ever be fully completed/operational to the extent they plan. So we shouldn't doomsay, but we also shouldn't go gaga over a corporate project that is going to primarily make money for people outside the province while they use our cheap electricity.

A few comments in bold:

Long-term, this project will:

• Create 40-80 local permanent jobs. These are only direct jobs. There will be many contractors and spin off jobs.
• Use 7.5% of our entire provincial power grid They are paying SaskPower hundreds of $millions for this.
• Contribute property taxes to Sherwood (not Regina). They will be paying perhaps $100 million in PST plus corporate income tax.

[Crisis]

Originally Posted by The mayor

Are you calling the premier and the President of the Bell Canada liars?

If they are saying that Regina is going to be epic centre (sic) of AI in Canada, then they are either liars or willfully misinformed.

Also, don't believe everything you read online. Many, if not most, data centre developers are very attention shy for good reason and don't solicit unwanted attention to their builds. My information comes from people actually involved in the projects.

[The mayor]

Originally Posted by Crisis

If they are saying that Regina is going to be epic centre (sic) of AI in Canada, then they are either liars or willfully misinformed.

Also, don't believe everything you read online. Many, if not most, data centre developers are very attention shy for good reason and don't solicit unwanted attention to their builds. My information comes from people actually involved in the projects.

lol some one is super jealous

[The mayor]

[QUOTE=Crisis;10574507]If they are saying that Regina is going to be epic centre (sic) of AI in Canada, then they are either liars or willfully misinformed.

Also, don't believe everything you read online. Many, if not most, data centre developers are very attention shy for good reason and don't solicit unwanted attention to their builds. My information comes from people actually involved in the
you will be ok just let it go

[Udon'tknow]

Originally Posted by Stormer

I am not sure if the previous proponents ever received zoning approval for high-rise.

The previous proposal was way nicer than this one. Plus, my concern with West Oak is they produce nice looking renders, but when they build the structures the finishes on the outside are no where near as nice as the renders, often with fugly textured stucco.

[one_brick_at_a_time]

Originally Posted by Udon'tknow

The previous proposal was way nicer than this one. Plus, my concern with West Oak is they produce nice looking renders, but when they build the structures the finishes on the outside are no where near as nice as the renders, often with fugly textured stucco.

Which projects have they completed so far in Regina?

[Crisis]

Originally Posted by The mayor

lol some one is super jealous

Not jealous at all. I think it's great that Regina is getting this data centre and would love to see them get more.

I simply have an issue with people blindly cutting and pasting headlines they find online without any investigation to determine if what they are posting is factual. My stance on that subject is not focused on this data centre, and goes well beyond this forum. It's a plague that infects almost all online dialogue.

[The mayor]

Originally Posted by Crisis

Not jealous at all. I think it's great that Regina is getting this data centre and would love to see them get more.

I simply have an issue with people blindly cutting and pasting headlines they find online without any investigation to determine if what they are posting is factual. My stance on that subject is not focused on this data centre, and goes well beyond this forum. It's a plague that infects almost all online dialogue.

Well the information provided is directly from the source, Bell Canada and the government of Saskatchewan. I think they got better things to do than lie something this came right from the premieres and the president of Bell Canada’s mouth so what’s the problem?

[The mayor]

Originally Posted by Crisis

Not jealous at all. I think it's great that Regina is getting this data centre and would love to see them get more.

I simply have an issue with people blindly cutting and pasting headlines they find online without any investigation to determine if what they are posting is factual. My stance on that subject is not focused on this data centre, and goes well beyond this forum. It's a plague that infects almost all online dialogue.

https://youtu.be/ofdV0ZFI4jM?si=Edvag41Ta2a6Ga3L
It’s all right here all you got to do is listen

[gecho111]

While I was downtown for an appointment this morning I saw they were pulling facade off 2184 12th Ave beside the empty Gordon block. That building is slated for demolition.

[Stormer]

Credit Foncier Bldg. They are supposed to store and re-use the Tyndall stone in any new construction.

[ceedub1170]

Originally Posted by The mayor

Well the information provided is directly from the source, Bell Canada and the government of Saskatchewan. I think they got better things to do than lie something this came right from the premieres and the president of Bell Canada’s mouth so what’s the problem?