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I could see the federal NDP choosing a new leader who gets smoked again in the next election which opens a door for Wab. I don’t really think Wab has any strong ideology. He’s a populist. He does what polls well. This would make federal NDP people mad but I don’t think they are paying enough attention to realize who he really is. They see popular NDP Premier and are excited by it. The left has a real issue of shunning those who don’t pass the lefty purity test but he might be able to blind them to it because he is so good on paper.
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I could see the federal NDP choosing a new leader who gets smoked again in the next election which opens a door for Wab. I don’t really think Wab has any strong ideology. He’s a populist. He does what polls well. This would make federal NDP people mad but I don’t think they are paying enough attention to realize who he really is. They see popular NDP Premier and are excited by it. The left has a real issue of shunning those who don’t pass the lefty purity test but he might be able to blind them to it because he is so good on paper.
Interesting to read this coming from you, Why do you speak like this now?
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Anyone find anything in the NDP budget of particular interest?

I changed the name of this thread from Manitoba Provincial Election to Manitoba Provincial Politics.
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NDP budget highlights cost-of-living help, health care, funds for Churchill port expansion
By: Chris Kitching
Tuesday, Mar. 24, 2026



The Manitoba government provided cost-of-living relief, new efforts to address health care wait times and more cash for the Churchill trade corridor in Tuesday’s budget, which predicts a smaller deficit of $500 million.

Finance Minister Adrien Sala said the NDP is on track to fulfil its 2023 election promise to balance the books in their first term, with the province having Canada’s lowest deficit-to-GDP ratio this fiscal year.

“This is a progressive budget focused on helping Manitobans where they need it. This is focused on people, really those Manitobans that drive our economy,” Sala told reporters.

“We want to make sure that they feel and hear that our government is listening, that we’re responding to the challenges they’re facing and that they know that we’re helping them.”

The spending plan – the government’s third since it won a majority – was delivered against the backdrop of affordability, health-care and trade concerns, while cross-border tariffs and a new Middle East war drive prices higher.

The plan fails to spur the economic growth needed for Manitoba to reduce the deficit and work toward eliminating the deficit, Progressive Conservative Leader Obby Khan said.

“We are in trouble as a province,” he told reporters, adding the budget lacked announcements about projects to grow the economy.

He said Manitoba has to rely on federal transfer payments for 36 per cent of its revenue, and he called that “a major red flag.”

Sala said the budget contains $10 million for a Churchill “catalyst fund” to generate more private-sector interest in an energy corridor to the North.

On affordability, the province is making ready-to-eat prepared foods and snacks such as chips, candy and soft drinks less expensive.

Starting July 1, the provincial sales tax will be removed from all food sold in grocery stores that is currently not exempt. The province cited rotisserie chickens, samosas and carbonated beverages as examples of items that will be PST-free, mirroring an earlier move by B.C.

The PST cut prompted questions about potential health implications if snack food, which is typically more affordable than fresh food, becomes even less expensive.

“When I work in the emergency room and I see a kid with a sore ear that’s drinking Pepsi and eating Doritos, I don’t want that to be the easiest accessible option for them and their family,” said Dr. Nichelle Desilets, president of Doctors Manitoba.

Sala said average Manitobans have told the government they’re buying potato chips and soda for birthday parties, and ready-to-eat chicken because they’re pressed for time before their children’s after-school activities.

“We know the biggest affordability challenge that Manitobans are facing are groceries and their grocery costs,” Sala said. “This is another lever, and our government is going to do everything we can to reduce grocery prices for Manitobans.”

Touted as a “more progressive” initiative, Manitobans with higher-valued homes will pay more for education property taxes thanks to changes to the homeowners affordability tax credit.

The annual credit will rise from $1,600 to $1,700 in 2027 for a majority of homeowners, but it will be reduced on a sliding scale for homes with assessed values of more than $1 million. A home worth $1.25 million will receive an $850 credit, for example. Homes valued at more than $1.5 million will no longer receive the credit.

“In many communities, we’ve seen this wipe out education property tax bills entirely,” Sala said.

“Ultimately, we’re going to take those revenues to support the costs associated for creating more help for those who need it. That’s because we believe those who’ve done really well in Manitoba are OK with supporting a little bit more to help those that need that help.”

The measure will try to soften the blow for many homeowners while some school divisions propose tax hikes of about 10 per cent to balance their budgets because, they say, provincial funding has not kept pace with rising costs.

Child care will become free for 3,500 families who pay $2 a day, equalling about 5,000 kids. The measure will cost the government $3.1 million annually.

A raft of health-care measures is intended to reduce wait times, highlighted by $22 million for a new cardiac centre of excellence, called Heart Care Manitoba, at St. Boniface Hospital. It will add 18 beds and put a cardiologist in the emergency room to assess certain patients.

For its part, the Manitoba Nurses Union said the budget has no money to establish promised nurse-to-patient ratios to improve patient care and nurse recruitment and retention.

President Darlene Jackson said that funding for safety measures is not new, and that nurses are considering grey-listing three more health care facilities in addition to the Health Sciences Centre, St. Boniface and Thompson General Hospital.

Winnipeg Mayor Scott Gillingham said the budget ignored one major “shovel-ready project” that city desperately needs the province to help fund — the third phase of the North End sewage treatment plant.

“In my view, that is the most important project in the province of Manitoba right now because Manitoba’s economy runs through Winnipeg’s economy,” Gillingham said Tuesday.

“If we don’t get that project built fully within the next few years, we’re gonna have to put a complete stop on all future growth,” he said.

In terms of the deficit, Premier Wab Kinew has said Manitoba would have the “best” deficit number in Canada in the 2026-27 fiscal year (which begins April 1).

Tuesday’s budget projects a deficit of just under $500 million. Total net debt climbed to $39.7 billion, with interest on the debt climbing $100 million to $2.4 billion. The debt-to-GDP ratio is forecast at 38.2 per cent, which is the lowest in Canada, the province said.

In December, the NDP projected a $1.6-billion deficit for 2025-26, double the prediction a year ago, partly due to the worst wildfire season in 30 years, drought-related losses at Manitoba Hydro and increased health-care costs.

Sala said the latest projection is 75 per cent lower than the $2-billion deficit the NDP inherited from the previous Progressive Conservative government.

“That’s a function of planning and the good work we’ve done together as a team,” he said.

Sala said 9.9 cents on every dollar received went toward paying the government’s debt when the NDP was sworn in. The debt-servicing amount was lowered to 8.9 cents in this budget, equalling $270 million that can be spent on health care or other measures, he said.

The 2026-27 budget outlines $27.3 billion in spending, an increase of $1.6 billion from last year.

Revenue is expected to rise by $1.8 billion to $26.8 billion, driven by increases in federal transfers, and income and education property taxes.

Before the budget was tabled, a moment of silence was held for NDP MLA Amanda Lathlin (The Pas-Kameesak), who died aged 49 on Saturday following an illness. Sala said a new clinic will open in Lathlin’s memory in The Pas in 2030.
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Old Posted Mar 25, 2026, 2:42 PM
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Well it's not a budget that will get broad applause or broad condemnation, but I'm guessing the NDP is planning/hoping for next year's budget to be the "wow" just before the election. For what it's worth here's my "unedjumacated" opinion on the points mentioned in the article.

IMO Could be Good: Money for the cardiac centre, "progressive" education property tax rates, free child care for lowest income families, a bit of money for Churchill "catalyst fund".

IMO okay-but-doesn't-really thrill me: no PST on prepared foods

IMO disappointing: no new money for the eternal north end sewage treatment plant project

Of course this article is just a few highlights and some standard criticisms.

Obby Khan was partially right in his observation that so much of the budget counts on transfer payments, though the PC's have never been known to refuse them when they're in office. They, too, have used them to work towards "balanced budgets", though with much more emphasis on cutting spending to the bone to reach that point. I agree it would have been nice to see some more "economy growing" projects, but those are longer-term projects and so much seems to be work happening in the background at the moment.

I wish I knew what Darlene Jackson's gripe is with the current government. Of course every union sings the same song about needing more money for more staffing. If there were a 2-1 ratio of nurses to patients she'd still be pushing for more nurses. However, it seems like she has been especially aggressive with the NDP from day 1, threatening "grey lists" and dumping on pretty much everything the NDP has done. I'm not saying there still isn't a problem with healthcare staffing, it just seems to me she has a personal axe to grind.

All in all a "second to last before the next election" budget. I think the NDP will have a problem living up to their balanced budget pledge, but if they can do that, or get close enough considering the shambles in the world's economy, the voters might let it pass. A "big announcement" on an economy-building project would help as well. We'll see what happens over the next years or so.
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we already dont pay PST on groceries (bread, milk, eggs, frozen chicken) but now we won't pay PST on Donuts, Pop, Chips. what a joke, the spin they put on this is ridiculous. "No PST on those yummy Rotiserie Chickens"

say what you want about SK and other provinces but they are exporting billions Potash, building massive data centers. and what is MB doing, "look at us we get more discount on junk food"
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It sucks that we live in a province that basically contains nothing anyone really wants. We can't conjure up Potash or Oil reserves - so here we are.

I also think missing out on these data centres may be considered a win - eventually. But again, MB doesn't appear to have the capacity in it's electrical grid to support these anyway.
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I had to do a little grocery shopping yesterday. I know the PST exemption isnt in effect yet but the amount of PST on my bill was already zero.

Regardless of what was in this years budget there is almost no chance the NDP lose the next election. The PC's are in terrible shape. I can't imagine the results will be close.
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Why would a private company to come Manitoba to mine potash for example. When it's much easier in Saskatchewan. There's a reason for that. Not just "muh NDP sucks." Sure there's some of that going on. But they'll take the low hanging fruit. Same with oil. We have a bit and it's being extracted.

The big thing in Manitoba should be mining for minerals. There's a lot here but it's hard to get to. The government needs to make it easier. By doing things like building roads, and dangling carrots (ie: money) to come here.

Dangling carrots for potash or oil, or data centres, isn't going to move the needle in a big way at this point in time.
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Why would a private company to come Manitoba to mine potash for example. When it's much easier in Saskatchewan. There's a reason for that. Not just "muh NDP sucks." Sure there's some of that going on. But they'll take the low hanging fruit. Same with oil. We have a bit and it's being extracted.

The big thing in Manitoba should be mining for minerals. There's a lot here but it's hard to get to. The government needs to make it easier. By doing things like building roads, and dangling carrots (ie: money) to come here.

Dangling carrots for potash or oil, or data centres, isn't going to move the needle in a big way at this point in time.
I have to agree with this. There's been some movement on mining some critical minerals, but unless there is easier access and/or some sort of "mother lode" strike of incredibly valuable minerals, we're not going to see the sort of resource bonanza they have in SK or AB. Barring some sort of unexpected find, we'll have to use our position in the middle of the country as sort of a "gatekeeper" for moving other provinces resources to some markets. I suppose this is what's at the root of Wab's efforts to turn Churchill into a more profitable shipping node.

I also agree that the political party in power, while it has some impact on resource extraction with regards to regulations and financial supports, doesn't make or break economic prosperity by itself. I look at AB, with it's endless series of Conservative governments and gobs of tarry oil reserves struggling with huge deficits, partly due to world economic conditions it can't control.
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Why would a private company to come Manitoba to mine potash for example. When it's much easier in Saskatchewan. There's a reason for that. Not just "muh NDP sucks." Sure there's some of that going on. But they'll take the low hanging fruit. Same with oil. We have a bit and it's being extracted.

The big thing in Manitoba should be mining for minerals. There's a lot here but it's hard to get to. The government needs to make it easier. By doing things like building roads, and dangling carrots (ie: money) to come here.

Dangling carrots for potash or oil, or data centres, isn't going to move the needle in a big way at this point in time.
And silica and diamonds and potash and nickel, copper and zinc. The list is endless. So disappointing that we are still a "have not" province when we easily could be a leader in Canada and driving the economy through resource development.
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[quote]"I wish I knew what Darlene Jackson's gripe is with the current government. Of course every union sings the same song about needing more money for more staffing. If there were a 2-1 ratio of nurses to patients she'd still be pushing for more nurses. However, it seems like she has been especially aggressive with the NDP from day 1, threatening "grey lists" and dumping on pretty much everything the NDP has done. I'm not saying there still isn't a problem with healthcare staffing, it just seems to me she has a personal axe to grind."

From a personal standpoint, we have a health minister that is a borderline bully and refuses to walk back anything where they might have made a mistake. They steal ideas from others and make it their own and literally use bullying tactics to get their way. It's a sh*t show. They make up numbers to fit their dialogue and have quite literally, covered up issues in the health care system despite the union, association and regulators insisting there are some real health crises that are not being addressed. Just give a read about the CRNM and Manitoba government and some of the issues that have arisen since this government started interfering in regulatory affairs and the risk to the public that has arisen from incompetent nurses being allowed to practice here after easing restrictions.
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And silica and diamonds and potash and nickel, copper and zinc. The list is endless. So disappointing that we are still a "have not" province when we easily could be a leader in Canada and driving the economy through resource development.
If it was easy, it would have already happened.
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From a personal standpoint, we have a health minister that is a borderline bully and refuses to walk back anything where they might have made a mistake. They steal ideas from others and make it their own and literally use bullying tactics to get their way. It's a sh*t show. They make up numbers to fit their dialogue and have quite literally, covered up issues in the health care system despite the union, association and regulators insisting there are some real health crises that are not being addressed. Just give a read about the CRNM and Manitoba government and some of the issues that have arisen since this government started interfering in regulatory affairs and the risk to the public that has arisen from incompetent nurses being allowed to practice here after easing restrictions.
I'll look into that, thanks.
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If it was easy, it would have already happened.
It actually is. We have incompetent governments that spend more time on trivial issues than focusing on how we actually can improve our own economy through development of our own resources.
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MB has lots critical minerals we keep hearing about it, but 50+ steps to get it going, stop the red tape. Plus we have Hydro, electricity is the new GOLD, get it going!
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If it was easy, it would have already happened.
I wouldn't say that mineral extraction is easy per se, but I spoke with a mineral explorations guy here a while ago who said that we do have some of the richest mineral deposits anywhere on earth (the exact minerals escape me at the moment) and that we are excellent at getting exploration done. From what I was told, a big issue is getting permits done to actually start extraction projects, which drives uncertainty and therefore lots of companies just pass because it's hard to obtain a permit, and they may be forced to make a huge part of the investment before even knowing if they will be able to proceed with a project.
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I wouldn't say that mineral extraction is easy per se, but I spoke with a mineral explorations guy here a while ago who said that we do have some of the richest mineral deposits anywhere on earth (the exact minerals escape me at the moment) and that we are excellent at getting exploration done. From what I was told, a big issue is getting permits done to actually start extraction projects, which drives uncertainty and therefore lots of companies just pass because it's hard to obtain a permit, and they may be forced to make a huge part of the investment before even knowing if they will be able to proceed with a project.
It's hard to get into the ground because this isn't 1950 anymore. I doubt that it is much easier to get into the ground (unless again, there is easy low hanging fruit sitting there) anywhere else in Canada for that matter.

To get a mine going you would need to follow environmental regulations, partnerships with Indigenous communities, etc. etc. It can't be easy - and IMO the proof of this is that it hasn't happened in modern times in Manitoba. Most, if not all of the major mining communities and developments in Manitoba pre-date the time when people cared or needed to worry about this kind of stuff.
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Subsidizing resource extraction as a means to develop the economy is just plain dumb. Maybe our perceptions are affected by the success of the SK & AB resource sectors but they are the exception and not the rule. Value-added industry is a million times more important than raw resource extraction.

SK has 100x the potash deposits we do. We will never be like them. And no country on earth is wealthy from mining nickel and copper lol.

Every dollar that we could put into incentivizing mining is a dollar that would be better spent developing tech, manufacturing, creative and other high-skill high value-added industries. And if you want to attract and retain the high-skill workforce you need a desirable urban lifestyle that we don't offer here, so our graduates leave. Funding proper transit in Winnipeg would be way better for our economy, dollar-for-dollar, than building mining infrastructure up north. And a side benefit is we don't need to destroy pristine boreal forest.
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It's hard to get into the ground because this isn't 1950 anymore. I doubt that it is much easier to get into the ground (unless again, there is easy low hanging fruit sitting there) anywhere else in Canada for that matter.

To get a mine going you would need to follow environmental regulations, partnerships with Indigenous communities, etc. etc. It can't be easy - and IMO the proof of this is that it hasn't happened in modern times in Manitoba. Most, if not all of the major mining communities and developments in Manitoba pre-date the time when people cared or needed to worry about this kind of stuff.
This is a given anywhere, the guy I spoke with specifically mentioned that Manitoba is a much more difficult jurisdiction to deal with. I'm just reporting what an industry insider told me.
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