Statistics Canada Reports II

[kora]

Immigrants by city in 2025, top 10
Toronto: 55,760
Montréal, 26,545
Ottawa: 23,845
Calgary: 22,635
Edmonton: 17,950
Brampton: 15,230
Winnipeg: 14,035
Vancouver: 12,670
Mississauga: 11,175
Surrey: 10,275

Permanent Residents – Monthly IRCC Updates
Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada
Permanent Residents by Province/Territory, Census Division and Census Subdivision
https://open.canada.ca/data/en/datas...9-9b8aff9b9eda

[Changing City]

[QUOTE=kora;10556999]Immigrants by city in 2025, top 10

Thanks. I looked at the data to understand what it showed. So those are the top 10 CSDs with the number of total new permanent residents by intended destination who arrived in 2025.

There's always a problem comparing cities like Calgary, which has most of the CMA's population, with Vancouver which has less that a quarter of Metro Vancouver's population (and only 4% of the land area).

[KnoxfordGuy]

Originally Posted by theman23

The headline was written that way because the Atlantic provinces declined for the first time in years in Q4, whereas the other provinces like BC have already been declining for a while.

Why are news outlets just reporting this now? Q4 numbers dropped over 2 months ago.

[jc_yyc_ca]

Housing starts for January.


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[trece verde]

Originally Posted by jc_yyc_ca

Housing starts for January.


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If one was cynical, it could be said that the reason Vancouver had more housing starts in January is because it's the only part of the country listed where you can build housing in January....

[BlackDog204]

Originally Posted by whatnext

Or with Canadians realizing they were being taken for an expensive ride by Justin Trudeau and the Century Initiative.

[ssiguy]

Originally Posted by trece verde

If one was cynical, it could be said that the reason Vancouver had more housing starts in January is because it's the only part of the country listed where you can build housing in January....

You have to remember that housing starts is a lagging indicator and espeically for condos/apts. Housing isn't considered a "start" until it reaches ground floor. Not an issue to SFH but a very big one for condo towers where it can take more than a year just to excavate and do the underground parking.

[DavidK93]

Originally Posted by jc_yyc_ca

Housing starts for January.


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Vancouver is getting back to normal. Not even much of a drop for Vancouver.

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by ssiguy

You have to remember that housing starts is a lagging indicator and espeically for condos/apts. Housing isn't considered a "start" until it reaches ground floor. Not an issue to SFH but a very big one for condo towers where it can take more than a year just to excavate and do the underground parking.

If 'housing starts is a lagging indicator', building permits are a leading indicator. The vast majority of projects that obtain a permit proceed to construction. Here's the Statistics Canada data for housing units permitted in 2025 for those same six CMAs.

Toronto 34,906
Vancouver 29,401
Montreal 26,959
Calgary 20,126
Edmonton 18,685
Ottawa-Gatineau 15,007

[jc_yyc_ca]

Originally Posted by Changing City

If 'housing starts is a lagging indicator', building permits are a leading indicator. The vast majority of projects that obtain a permit proceed to construction. Here's the Statistics Canada data for housing units permitted in 2025 for those same six CMAs.

Toronto 34,906
Vancouver 29,401
Montreal 26,959
Calgary 20,126
Edmonton 18,685
Ottawa-Gatineau 15,007

Yes, generally that's the case. It's a decent indicator for what's coming, but much like housing starts it has scales also, as not all permits that are applied for at the same time start at the same time, some might be two weeks after application and some might be 6 months.

Even though housing starts have a lag, I like that they are an actual start.

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by jc_yyc_ca

Yes, generally that's the case. It's a decent indicator for what's coming, but much like housing starts it has scales also, as not all permits that are applied for at the same time start at the same time, some might be two weeks after application and some might be 6 months.

Even though housing starts have a lag, I like that they are an actual start.

I agree, and I don't think CMHC Housing Starts numbers really have a lag, (that's ssiguy's view) but it's true they represent when the project reaches ground level. In some places, and with many projects, that's pretty much irrelevent, but where there's a significant hole for parking, it can easily be a year or two before construction reaches the surface.

CMHC's logic seems reasonable - sometimes there can be a significant delay between excavation and construction which could generate misleading data. Onni's second phase of Gilmore Place in Burnaby now proposes 1,770 apartments in 3 towers, and they started excavating the underground parkade in 2022, but have yet to start sales of the units or construction of the parkade - there's just a big hole which is likely to be around for several more years.