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Old Posted Feb 26, 2026, 5:34 AM
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After 2+ decades, this will finally get off the ground. This is the epitome of "better late than never." That's the nicest way one could put it.

Although the design fits in well with the rest of the WTC complex, it could just as easily fit within the Hudson Yards. To be fair, you couldn't really go any other way other than the boring corporate glass and flat facade. Yea yea, there are a few vertical fins (big whoop) and balconies, but it's still overwhelmingly a generic flat blue wall. Admittedly, it is the nicer design of the WTC site, but that's not saying much.

This, alongside a couple other supertalls in midtown, are going to make the next 5-7 years one of the most exciting years in modern times for NYC skyscraper enthusiasts.

All in all, I'm just happy this is finally rising!
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After 2+ decades, this will finally get off the ground. This is the epitome of "better late than never." That's the nicest way one could put it.

Although the design fits in well with the rest of the WTC complex, it could just as easily fit within the Hudson Yards. To be fair, you couldn't really go any other way other than the boring corporate glass and flat facade. Yea yea, there are a few vertical fins (big whoop) and balconies, but it's still overwhelmingly a generic flat blue wall. Admittedly, it is the nicer design of the WTC site, but that's not saying much.

This, alongside a couple other supertalls in midtown, are going to make the next 5-7 years one of the most exciting years in modern times for NYC skyscraper enthusiasts.

All in all, I'm just happy this is finally rising!
yes -- and going up just in time for the midterms -- glorious days ahead!
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Old Posted Feb 26, 2026, 9:40 AM
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Long time lurker, watched 1WTC go up on this site many moons ago! always exciting to see what the next week brings in construction!

Just wanted to add a little bit of personal disappointment that they ended up chopping over 100ft from the final design. There is so much meaning and history in finally replacing what was the south tower it just doesn't seem right to me that it isn't over 1300ft or matching the original floor height (like 1WTC did)

I think to continuously compromise at such an important site really goes against the ethos of building back stronger, the drop in 3WTC was already sad to see.

I also hope the top 10% of the building isn't purely mechanical like the current trend of things

I'ts still great news that something is being built, it's been far too long!
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Old Posted Feb 26, 2026, 2:07 PM
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Just wanted to add a little bit of personal disappointment that they ended up chopping over 100ft from the final design. There is so much meaning and history in finally replacing what was the south tower it just doesn't seem right to me that it isn't over 1300ft or matching the original floor height (like 1WTC did)

I think to continuously compromise at such an important site really goes against the ethos of building back stronger, the drop in 3WTC was already sad to see.
So you weren't a fan of the 1,270 ft "diamond" topped version everyone loved, and I'm sure you were ready to jump in the river over the spire not actually being built. But this is not the time for sadness. We aren't going to sit around for another 10 years hoping that a tower just a hundred feet taller miraculously get built.

We have a tenant here, taking up the FULL tower. All of the WTC office space will have been rebuilt and leased, in a better Downtown. There is nothing but good news here. Now the debate moves on to design, which obviously some people will not be happy with. But it's getting built, and for years that's all you could ask for.



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Although the design fits in well with the rest of the WTC complex, it could just as easily fit within the Hudson Yards. To be fair, you couldn't really go any other way other than the boring corporate glass and flat facade. Yea yea, there are a few vertical fins (big whoop) and balconies, but it's still overwhelmingly a generic flat blue wall. Admittedly, it is the nicer design of the WTC site, but that's not saying much.

This, alongside a couple other supertalls in midtown, are going to make the next 5-7 years one of the most exciting years in modern times for NYC skyscraper enthusiasts. All in all, I'm just happy this is finally rising!
Yeah, that was the point of the redesign - to fit in more with the modern towers that are being built. There's a reason all those Hudson Yards towers are built and leased (almost full or full before they are even completed!) This wouldn't have been the design 20 years ago, but it is a design for today. All of the new office towers are incorporating terraces where they can. This tower has a lively, stepped back profile - of the 270 and 350 park variety. And in sharp contrast to the monolithic Freedom Tower beside it, which itself would have been designed differently today. But yes, all in all, the next few years will be a virtual parade of new skyscrapers going up, both office and residential. There will be a lot to keep track of. And we are ready!



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Wow those realistic renders look great. Improves my feelings on it a lot actually. Renderings always go crazy with the open air spaces and tree coverage it looks cartooney sometimes. Looks much more interesting to me this way.
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yeah its nice to have such realistic renders for a change.

that is very likely exactly what it will look like, or definitely feel like around it.

Those may have been AI generated, but the real difference between the renderings is in "dry summer" vs "cold, wet, winter". Naturally there would be a difference.










BTW, something about the fins reminds me a little of the original Twin Towers.
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Old Posted Feb 26, 2026, 2:25 PM
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^ in any season that blank ass streetwall is really bugging me.

its actually a short stretch there and a very nice wide area, but still.

it needs some pedestrian friendly small retail or at least an oculus mall entrance.

i am hopeful that changes as we get underway.

i can understand why 1wtc is a fortress unfortunately, but the others do not need to be that way.
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Can we get some coke bottle green glass at least to help it dissappear less? You'd think that AmEx would want the building to match the card.

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I look forward to another extraordinary tower for our unparalleled city.





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BTW, just another reminder why patience is always needed….


https://therealdeal.com/new-york/2026/02/25/american-express-commits-to-2m-sf-tower-at-2-wtc/

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AmEx entered into an exclusive negotiating period with Silverstein back in September 2024. Silverstein has spent much of this century trying to secure an anchor tenant, necessary to get a loan to build the tower.

AmEx hired Cushman & Wakefield in 2022 to explore a relocation or renovation for its Manhattan offices.

People complaing about a building not being all glass can keep crying.



https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/15/realestate/chippendale-building-550-madison-amenities.html




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With respect to patience, the next big announcement will be 625 Madison. Foster can either deliver an iconic landmark or an 800 foot glass box dud.
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Really nice design, complements 1WTC well, though it would have been nicer if it were somewhat taller. A bit of a missed opportunity there.
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Old Posted Feb 26, 2026, 5:13 PM
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With respect to patience, the next big announcement will be 625 Madison. Foster can either deliver an iconic landmark or an 800 foot glass box dud.
When can we expect an announcement? (Approximately, in your opinion?)
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^ ChiND has no insider information nor is in the real estate field at all, so it's pointless to ask him anything like that.

To be fair, it would be pointless to ask me that either as I have no special insight.
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Old Posted Feb 26, 2026, 5:33 PM
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When can we expect an announcement? (Approximately, in your opinion?)
I don't know, but I suspect that they would reveal the design within a few months.
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Old Posted Feb 26, 2026, 5:53 PM
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^ ChiND has no insider information nor is in the real estate field at all, so it's pointless to ask him anything like that.

To be fair, it would be pointless to ask me that either as I have no special insight.
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I don't know, but I suspect that they would reveal the design within a few months.
First off, the question wasn't meant solely for him, anyone reading it is welcome to venture their own semi-educated guess

And secondly, plenty of people who follow these construction threads pay a lot of attention to the NYC building scene, so it might well be that people who aren't insiders, just fans, would have more info than you or I. His answer ("I suspect we'll see a design proposal within a few months") is exactly the kind of approximation I was looking for
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Can we get some coke bottle green glass at least to help it dissappear less? You'd think that AmEx would want the building to match the card.

Well this is great news!! I heard rumblings about American Express a few years ago and knew this only made sense for them to get a signature tower in lower Manhattan. Let them tinker with their new toy It's like buying a new luxury car and picking your features. Looking forward to the official renderings.
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Y'all are easily impressed.

This tower is ugly. Okay, maybe not "ugly," but certainly generic AF and completely uninspiring. Doesn't do the site justice. It's a glass box. Are we really supposed to be wow'd by a few sky gardens?

The new towers in midtown or at Hudson Yards is far more impressive, IMO.

HOWEVER, it is nice to finally see the WTC complex completed after a quarter century +. Frankly, I think it should renamed altogether. It's the WTC SITE but those buildings are anything but a symbolic or worthy of replacing what used to be.
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The original buildings, as offices, weren't nice. I spent time in them, and they were crappy office buildings, with very low floors and weird windows. And the original site plan was bad. I get it was an iconic complex, but it wasn't good urbanism.

And I'll take a 1,226 Foster HQ tower any day. Nothing generic or uninspiring about this.
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Y'all are easily impressed.

This tower is ugly. Okay, maybe not "ugly," but certainly generic AF and completely uninspiring. Doesn't do the site justice. It's a glass box. Are we really supposed to be wow'd by a few sky gardens?

The new towers in midtown or at Hudson Yards is far more impressive, IMO.
I feel like people aren't so much impressed by this tower, as much as they are ecstatic that something, anything, is finally being built.

I personally am happy that this gap will finally be filled in, but I agree that the design is super generic and is not inspiring. But if it can't be iconic, at least it's not tacky. So there's that.
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