340 Parkdale Ave | 127m | 38f | Proposed

[Uhuniau]

Originally Posted by Proof Sheet

How can you recreate the atmosphere and grime of the current Carleton. I think they tried to do that in Toronto to a bar called the Morrissey when it had to relocate and it was an abject failure. It would be like saying that a shiny new convenience store at a gas station in the suburbs is the same as an old school urban corner store (like Kim's Convenience). Yes they both sell convenience items but the atmosphere is totally different.

The dank, Moe, the dank.

[FutureWickedCity]

The Laff used to be dank but now well heeled people line up in arctic weather for a table.

[harls]

Originally Posted by Uhuniau

The dank, Moe, the dank.

There's still lotsa dank across the border, if you need it.

La Brass, Flix Billiard, that place on Eddy and Papineau... Not too familiar with the original city of Gatineau, but there's still Pigale, a couple of strip clubs on rue Main (Bar 77).. etc.

[Proof Sheet]

Originally Posted by harls

There's still lotsa dank across the border, if you need it.

La Brass, Flix Billiard, that place on Eddy and Papineau... Not too familiar with the original city of Gatineau, but there's still Pigale, a couple of strip clubs on rue Main (Bar 77).. etc.

Taverne 57 was always good in 'old' Hull but it is permanently closed.

Taverne Montcalm is always an option and I've always been intrigued by Taverne Le Whip

Or this fine establishment Bar Dumas in Hull.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/9WGAsUU4RE9ArCTb8

[harls]

Originally Posted by Proof Sheet

Taverne 57 was always good in 'old' Hull but it is permanently closed.

Taverne Montcalm is always an option and I've always been intrigued by Taverne Le Whip

Or this fine establishment Bar Dumas in Hull.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/9WGAsUU4RE9ArCTb8

My kind of place. Used to live on Carillon when I first moved here, Man.. 20 years ago.

But back to the thread, yes.. the Carleton is going to become corporate once it's demolished. You can't recreate the smoke-laden walls, unless AI can do it.

[J.OT13]

Originally Posted by Proof Sheet

How can you recreate the atmosphere and grime of the current Carleton. I think they tried to do that in Toronto to a bar called the Morrissey when it had to relocate and it was an abject failure. It would be like saying that a shiny new convenience store at a gas station in the suburbs is the same as an old school urban corner store (like Kim's Convenience). Yes they both sell convenience items but the atmosphere is totally different.

Even if they reused all of the stone, windows, doors, wood paneling, bar, furniture, it can never be the same. The smell and the atmosphere in those old places cannot be recreated.

It's sad to lose these old establishments and buildings. We can never get them back.

[rocketphish]

Carleton Tavern to be demolished and rebuilt as part of highrise development on Parkdale Ave.

Mia Jensen, OBJ
February 19, 2026

The Carleton Tavern on Parkdale Avenue will be torn down and rebuilt as part of a proposal to build a 38-storey residential tower in Hintonburg.

According to planning documents, Taggart and Stantec Consulting Ltd. propose to redevelop a 38,072-square-foot property at 340 Parkdale Ave., just north of Parkdale Park and the Parkdale Public Market.

The proposed mixed-use residential highrise would feature a six-storey L-shaped podium — built around the Carleton Tavern building — and contain 465 units. It would also include a four-level underground parking garage with 322 parking spaces.

In the design brief, the applicants said the surrounding neighbourhood is “highly walkable” and “transit supported,” adding that the project would “meaningfully (contribute) to Ottawa’s housing supply by introducing a substantial number of new units in a range of sizes suited to diverse household needs.”

In addition to residential, the proposal calls for 5,640 square feet of ground-floor commercial space and 3,251 square feet of restaurant area, as well as an open plaza and courtyard.

According to the planning rationale for the proposal, the site is owned entirely by Taggart and is occupied by retail stores and a warehouse, as well as the Carleton Tavern, which the design brief describes as a “long-standing community landmark.”

Due to age, structural deterioration and required site remediation, the brief proposes demolishing the original tavern and rebuilding it entirely.

It added that the tavern would be the “massing anchor” for the development and would remain a free-standing structure.

“The new Tavern will re-establish the prominent corner facade, while the northern portion, originally a simple stucco volume with limited openings, will be reimagined as a contemporary extension,” the brief said.

“This allows for improved activation, increased transparency, and opportunities for public art consistent with the artistic expression historically found on the block. The surrounding plaza and courtyard are organized to reinforce the Tavern’s place within the neighbourhood without overstating its architectural significance.”

The planning rationale added that, during pre-application consultation, city heritage staff confirmed they would not recommend that city council add the Carleton Tavern to the city’s Heritage Register or designate it as a heritage property under the Ontario Heritage Act.

“The owner expressed their interest in commemorating the tavern through efforts to maintain a similar type use and presence on site,” the document said. “The proposed conceptual development includes a new two-storey restaurant building that will have a similar look and function as the existing Carleton Tavern.”

https://obj.ca/carleton-tavern-demol...rise-parkdale/

[rocketphish]

Let the Carleton Tavern die a dignified death
There's no need to rebuild the tavern with high-quality anything when the area gets redeveloped.

By Brigitte Pellerin, Ottawa Citizen
Published Feb 20, 2026 | Last updated 1 day ago



At the risk of overwhelming you with get-off-my-lawn energy, I refuse to let the Carleton Tavern get “reimagined” without protest.

The area on Parkdale Avenue between Oxford and Armstrong Streets is being turned into a 38-storey mixed-use building and as part of the exercise the developer, Taggart, needs to destroy the old tavern for reasons having to do with age, general decrepitude, and also Father Time having done his job rather well on this particular corner of Hintonburg.

A consultant report said they will rebuild the tavern “using high-quality stone and masonry to restore its familiar presence on Parkdale Avenue.”

Uh, no thank you. If I wanted high-quality stone or masonry or furniture or grub, I wouldn’t go to the Carleton. When I go to the Carleton — and yes, I do sometimes go to the Carleton — it is precisely for the tavern ambience. Which ain’t high-quality anything.

I am old enough to remember when taverns didn’t accept women. I don’t know if that was as prevalent a custom here as it was in Quebec City where I grew up. In the taverns of my misspent youth, there was a salt shaker on each table because the beer was so bland you had to add flavour to it. And you never ordered just one beer. They always came in two. Food was … whatever rancid peanuts the owner felt his customers deserved.

People went to the tavern to socialize with like-minded folks and to drink cheap salted swill. Today we’ve evolved far enough to have food that’s solidly mediocre and very tolerable beer. In the interest of full disclosure, I should say that I have not ventured very far into the Carleton food menu because I eat a clean, high-protein diet, but I certainly enjoy the CT Pilsner they sell at exceedingly reasonable prices. Like $11.99 for a personal pitcher, which is perfect for a casual evening with friends followed by a bike ride or walk home like the responsible tavern-goer I am.

What I especially enjoy about establishments like the Carleton is that nobody there gives a hoot about the fact that I’m wearing my favourite writing hoodie, the one that has a few holes in the sleeves because I wear it so often and refuse to throw it out.

If I went to a fine establishment with high-quality masonry, my attire would earn me a few side eyes. At the Carleton, I look better than the furniture. This is priceless.

“The new Tavern will re-establish the prominent corner facade, while the northern portion, originally a simple stucco volume with limited openings, will be reimagined as a contemporary extension,” the developer’s report continues. “This allows for improved activation, increased transparency, and opportunities for public art consistent with the artistic expression historically found on the block.”

First of all, what the heck does any of this mean? What in tarnation is improved activation? It doesn’t say tavern at all, not even the heavily reimagined kind.

The building that houses the Carleton was built in the late 1890s and has served as a watering hole for nearly a century after a few years housing a general store. It’s time to let it go.

I am sad to lose such a historic institution. But I want to remember it for what it was, not some reimagined hipster version of it.

Let the Carleton Tavern die a dignified death.

Brigitte Pellerin (they/them) is an Ottawa writer.

https://ottawacitizen.com/opinion/carleton-tavern

[skyscraperaccount]

Nothing stops you from remembering The Carleton, Pellerin.

[harls]

Originally Posted by skyscraperaccount

Nothing stops you from remembering The Carleton, Pellerin.

I think she's objecting to the reincarnation being called the Carleton. Call it the Parkdale Poorhouse or Tunney Mow or whatever mish mash of British-Scottish names you can think of and let the Carleton die.

[ponyboycurtis]

Originally Posted by harls

I think she's objecting to the reincarnation being called the Carleton. Call it the Parkdale Poorhouse or Tunney Mow or whatever mish mash of British-Scottish names you can think of and let the Carleton die.

My random thought process is thinking they should do a for fun auction and sell off chairs and tables and beer taps and anything else even remotely interesting and donate it all to a charity.

[J.OT13]

Originally Posted by ponyboycurtis

My random thought process is thinking they should do a for fun auction and sell off chairs and tables and beer taps and anything else even remotely interesting and donate it all to a charity.

That would be great. Avoids waste as well.

[Davis137]

I only drank at the Carleton a couple of times with one of my downstairs neighbors when I lived on Bullman Street. It was very much an oldschool bar, with an oldschool crowd, and stank of spilled beer on the floor, and fried food...not many venues like it around anymore...

Parkdale and Hintonburg are changing so much, so fast...