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Old Posted Feb 3, 2026, 12:48 PM
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Yvon Lapierre has decided not to reoffer as mayor of Dieppe.

He has been a fixture in Dieppe municipal politics for 30-40 years.
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I'm hearing lots of rumours about who may or may not be running for council in SJ but virtually nothing about mayor. Has anybody heard of any potentially credible candidates testing the waters and/or actually giving strong consideration to running?

Things seem to be going better for SJ generally in recent years. I wonder if that's contributing to less of an groundswell for change among voters and thus fewer potential candidates sensing an opportunity?
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Tim Houston has been one of Canada's most popular premiers for some time now. I wonder if this looming fiscal reality check will have an impact on that? He ran and was elected (and then re-elected) on a platform where "fixing" healthcare figured prominently.
They certainly opened the spending taps although I'm not sure how much things have actually improved. Now, with a deficit soaring past 1.4 billion and cut in NS's credit rating you have to wonder how long his popularity will hold up?

Given how NB's deficit has also soared in the Liberal's first year and how Holt's popularity has held up you have to wonder if she and the NB Liberals aren't on a similar path? It's far easier for a government to be popular during free spending times then when having to live within economic realities.

It also makes me wonder if increased spending is the solution to healthcare issues in Canada or if the problem is the system itself? I've often wondered what would happen if we took an honest and objective look at the top 10 countries in the world in terms of healthcare access and outcomes with a view to stealing any and all good ideas.

I think we need to put everything on the table. How the system is structured, how it is managed, how it is staffed, how staff are remunerated, how the system is funded, how the system is accessed etc. etc.

Nova Scotia's looming fiscal troubles may be a cautionary tale about trying to spend your way out of a healthcare crisis.

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It also makes me wonder if increased spending is the solution to healthcare issues in Canada or if the problem is the system itself? I've often wondered what would happen if we took an honest and objective look at the top 10 countries in the world in terms of healthcare access and outcomes with a view to stealing any and all good ideas.

I think we need to put everything on the table. How the system is structured, how it is managed, how it is staffed, how staff are remunerated, how the system is funded, how the system is accessed etc. etc..
The health care system is, has been, and always will be expensive.

This is because healthcare is highly specialized, requires an educated and technical workforce and is vary labour intensive. It cannot be automated. It has to be delivered in a compassionate manner to an ill and frightened client base. You can streamline, but you cannot rush health care. It requires time for the patient to heal.

Having said this, there are a few things that can be done to make the system more efficient.

1) - Build more nursing homes. Bed blockers are the biggest choke point in the hospital system. At the Moncton Hospital, about 1/3rd of our beds are occupied by patients who are medically discharged and waiting for nursing home admission, They can wait for months in an environment that provides them with little mental stimulation, and places them at risk of exposure to contagious disease. This situation means accelerated mental decline and shortened life spans. It is intolerable both for the bed blocking patient and for the patient in the ER waiting for admission. If you want to reduce ER waits, then the most effective way to do this is to make more nursing homes available.

2) - Build urgent care centres away from the acute hospital setting. About 80% of patients presenting to the ER do not have to be there. The ER is meant for acute trauma, acute stroke, acute MI and complex medical situations requiring specialist intervention. An outpatient treatment centre staffed by ER physicians equipped with basic imaging and laboratory serices can deal with most urgent (non emergent) health care situation - lumps and bumps, suturing, colds and flu, prescription renewal etc. These urgent care centres can be located in shopping centres with abundant parking and easy patent access. If these were built, ER overcrowding would disappear overnight.

3) - Build more collaborative care clinics. Most physicians do not oppose such clinics. In fact, most younger physicians prefer this option which allows you to practice in a team based environment. For patients this may mean that you no longer have a personal physician, but you will have reliable access to A physician or NP in your neighbourhood clinic with expectations of being seen in a reasonable time.

Do these three things and the crisis in primary/emergency care would disappear overnight.

Would this make health care less expensive- no, and, costs would likely increase somewhat, but, public satisfaction would improve immeasurably.

Hospitals would still exist, but the system would be decompressed, and there would be no need to build new hospitals. Existing facilities should be sufficient to deal with an aging population with increasing health care needs.

As for compensation models, I think it would be difficult to do anything substantive to decrease costs. They are already offering alternate payment models for primary care physicians, and many younger FPs are opting in.

Fee for service remains the primary way to pay for specialist services This encourages throughput and efficiency within the system. As for the "rich doctors", these are mostly specialist and subspecialists who have 13-15 years of training, don't enter clinical practice until this early to mid 30s, have a truncated workspan of 30 years or so, are expected to be on call at night, working 60-80 hours per week, have no benefits and no pension plan. It is rewarding and intellectually stimulating work but entails a great deal of sacrifice. If specialists were salaried, they would require defined hours, a pension plan, benefits, and overtime pay. I don't think saving would be very much.

I think some savings could be had by making sure the least qualified person person was performing the appropriate task in a hospital or nursing home situation, Most nursing tasks can be handled br LPNs or RNAs. Managerial positions and specialist nursing postions in the ER, OR and ICU would require full RNs. This is generally what happens now anyway. In nursing homes, you could have patient care attendants and orderlies doing most tasks rather than LPNs, but, it should be remembered that you get what you pay for. Do you really want to dumb down the system too much?
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I've never understood the aversion to creating new nursing homes. I understand there is a financial cost to it, but it would help alleviate so much stress on the system. It seems like consecutive governments on both sides have refused to commit to it.

From speaking with family members who work in healthcare, half of the specialized floors they work on aren't actually full of the patients they are intended for, but dozens of elderly folks with nowhere else to go or better yet, nowhere they want to go. If 50% of the patients on a cancer floor don't have cancer, there is something seriously wrong.
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I understand we have a number of nursing homes with some beds closed due to staffing shortages. Anyone know if that is true. If it is it would seem to negate the idea of building more....at least until what we have are running at 100%

BTW, I totally agree with getting medically discharged patients out of acute care hospitals.
I also support the practise of moving them to any available facility while they wait for a bed to become available in a home of their choice.
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Old Posted Feb 8, 2026, 4:39 PM
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I understand we have a number of nursing homes with some beds closed due to staffing shortages. Anyone know if that is true. If it is it would seem to negate the idea of building more....at least until what we have are running at 100%.
Yes, there are nursing home beds that are blocked because there are not enogh health care workers.

There is no easy solution to this. Basic care is mundane, unpleasant at times (bed pan duty, washing and cleaning the patient, turning the patient to prevent bed sores, transferring the patient to and from bed), and generally poorly compensated (at least for orderlies and patient care attendants who are at the bottom rung of the ladder). Injury and abuse is unfortunately common for these workers. It is not the sort of job that many people dream of.

Canada's low fertility rate decreases the pool of available workers. The only real solution is to open the immigration floodgates and import workers.
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The lack of staff is just another layer of cost, in my mind. If they paid more, there wouldn't be the shortages. Yes, it is not the most glamorous job, but if it paid more, there would be more interest.

Sadly, they won't do that; they'll choose to bring in those willing to work for less ad infinitum.

In comparison, while the LPN/RN situation isn't resolved, the retention bonuses, the decline in travel nursing, and the new contract they just signed have helped a lot, and outside of remote locations and the emergency room, they won't be short-staffed for a while.
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/susan-holt-government-cuts-proposals-9.7077641

More evidence that the open handed spending chickens are coming home to roost. Interesting that Holt only took a year in government in office to get to this point (considerably less time than Houston in NS). What remains to be seen is whether this exercise will result in meaningful spending cuts or just tinkering around the edges.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/susan-holt-government-cuts-proposals-9.7077641
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More evidence that the open handed spending chickens are coming home to roost. Interesting that Holt only took a year in government in office to get to this point (considerably less time than Houston in NS). What remains to be seen is whether this exercise will result in meaningful spending cuts or just tinkering around the edges.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/susan-holt-government-cuts-proposals-9.7077641
How much money could we save combining the two health authorities? But no it's apparently a constitutional right despite the fact the combined agency could handle both offical languages.
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How much money could we save combining the two health authorities? But no it's apparently a constitutional right despite the fact the combined agency could handle both offical languages.
Is it actually a constitutional right like the French school system is?

I guess the best solution (if that's the case) is to make both systems work better for Anglophones and Francophones alike.

Moncton seems to be the only one of the "big three" where Medavie and Horizon operate simultaneously?

Maybe Fredericton and Saint John should both see Medavie run community care clinics, or rather, cliniques de soins communautaires. If both systems are supposed to be fully bilingual and fully accessible by both Anglophones and Francophones, then perhaps Medavie should also have some sort of presence, or fill some niches, in the SJ and Freddy regions, especially to help our regions attract and retain Francophone immigrants...

Saint John and Fredericton could do a much better job marketing out cities to Francophones, and maybe some French community clinics could be part of the approach to changing that.
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Is it actually a constitutional right like the French school system is?

I guess the best solution (if that's the case) is to make both systems work better for Anglophones and Francophones alike.

Moncton seems to be the only one of the "big three" where Medavie and Horizon operate simultaneously?

Maybe Fredericton and Saint John should both see Medavie run community care clinics, or rather, cliniques de soins communautaires. If both systems are supposed to be fully bilingual and fully accessible by both Anglophones and Francophones, then perhaps Medavie should also have some sort of presence, or fill some niches, in the SJ and Freddy regions, especially to help our regions attract and retain Francophone immigrants...

Saint John and Fredericton could do a much better job marketing out cities to Francophones, and maybe some French community clinics could be part of the approach to changing that.
We don't need to add more duality and complication to a health system we already struggle to fund (and that fails to provide timely access to modern care). We need to streamline and simplify the system. NB is a small and poor province. We would do well to try to provide timely access to quality basic care before adding any more extras to the system.
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We don't need to add more duality and complication to a health system we already struggle to fund (and that fails to provide timely access to modern care). We need to streamline and simplify the system. NB is a small and poor province. We would do well to try to provide timely access to quality basic care before adding any more extras to the system.
Shouldn’t we be worried about attracting Francophone immigrants tho?


Moreover, it seems like we’re never going to simply have a unified, bilingual healthcare system in New Brunswick… so maybe getting some Medavie clinics and services in both Saint John and Fredericton could help our cities improve the healthcare situation without touching the Horizon budget.

Does anyone know how the healthcare spending budget is divided between Horizon and Medavie? Do the budgets for Horizon and Medavie line up neatly with the linguistic divisions of the province?

I’d have zero issues seeing a doctor at a Medavie administered medical clinic here in Saint John, if such a clinic existed and was fully bilingual. Obviously, we should want to see Horizon step up and expand their clinics and improve their hospitals, but I don’t think we should be opposed to Medavie operating within Saint-Jean
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Anyone care to keep lobbying for the Saint John Drydock revival? lol

Canada bets on ‘Build at Home’ defence strategy to reclaim sovereignty — and revive readiness
Plan aims to award 70% of federal defence contracts to Canadian firms within a decade

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Restarting the drydock is not viable. The drydock might just be sitting there but the assembly hall is now the wallboard plant. It's had plenty added onto it in the last couple decades and probably can't be converted back, even if Irving wanted to. It's also much smaller than the one in Halifax. As for the drydock itself, it's been sitting idle for 26 years. A retrofit could be so extensive as to make it as expensive as commissioning an entire new facility.

Irving would never go for it, and we have no party in existence at the federal or provincial level willing to make those kinds of big swings like nationalisation or just establishing a new entity to expand industry at that scale.
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N.B. budget deficit soars to record $1.3 billion
Fiscal shortfall is now more than double what Liberals projected in their first budget
Jacques Poitras · CBC News · Posted: Feb 17, 2026 12:30 PM AST | Last Updated: 34 minutes ago
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-budget-deficit-over-one-billion-dollars-9.7093650

Oh dear..........

I see they are blaming this on the greedy doctors............
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While many of us would love to see something happen at the dry dock, based on the news I have seen in the last 24 hours, CFB Gagetown will receive $1B from the feds, which will likely be the bulk of our benefit, along with some cyber projects.

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Fiscal shortfall is now more than double what Liberals projected in their first budget
Jacques Poitras · CBC News · Posted: Feb 17, 2026 12:30 PM AST | Last Updated: 34 minutes ago
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-budget-deficit-over-one-billion-dollars-9.7093650

Oh dear..........

I see they are blaming this on the greedy doctors............
My concern is primarily that their estimates appear to be completely out of control. How can the deficit change so dramatically for several quarters consecutively? To me it shows they have a really poor grasp on income and expenditure until the actuals come in.

There will be cuts in this year's budget, whether we like it or not. I recommend that folks respond to the recent survey on this if they want to provide input.

https://survey.alchemer-ca.com/s3/50517241/Prebudget-EN
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Auditor General of New Brunswick Dec 21, 2025:

Annual deficit of $104 million was the Province's first recorded deficit in eight years.

It didn't take very long for the deficit to blow up!
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Auditor General of New Brunswick Dec 21, 2025:

Annual deficit of $104 million was the Province's first recorded deficit in eight years.

It didn't take very long for the deficit to blow up!
Too bad Higgs screwed the pooch with his increasing focus on fundamentalist social conservativism. He was a good fiscal manager, but, he was prickly, and became increasingly toxic at the end of his tenure.

Holt is more likeable, and a good politician but, it is increasingly obvious that she doesn't know how to manage a budget.

This is a big opening for the PCs in the next election (as long as they stay away from social conservative issues).
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Too bad Higgs screwed the pooch with his increasing focus on fundamentalist social conservativism. He was a good fiscal manager, but, he was prickly, and became increasingly toxic at the end of his tenure.

Holt is more likeable, and a good politician but, it is increasingly obvious that she doesn't know how to manage a budget.

This is a big opening for the PCs in the next election (as long as they stay away from social conservative issues).
I agree with all of that. Higgs was a good manager until he went off the rails on social issues. He political skills in terms of managing a political caucus and the cabinet were also sadly lacking.

I don't know if Holt can reign in spending and still deal with the healthcare and education issues or not but I worry that the answer is "not".

I think the conundrum is that living within our means may result in not having the kind of social services, healthcare, education and infrastructure that people seem to want/expect.

We are very much the poor relation in the confederation and while we get a ton of welfare (AKA transfer payments) from the Feds we still can't seem to make ends meet.

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