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Originally Posted by mcj
If the WCE had the same stop spacing as Skytrain it would be slower, take Port Moody to Coquitlam Central, times are effectively the same but Skytrain makes another stop in the middle. That's with scheduled times and no delays which the WCE is susceptible to. The LIM propulsion makes the acceleration/deceleration profile competitive even with more modern light metros, the REM really doesn't beat it by much (with much longer average stop spacing) and the Ontario line will be slower on average. The Surrey Langley Extension will boost average speed on the Expo line to ~48 km/h, compared to REM's ~50 km/h average and the Ontario Line's ~35 km/h average.
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Yes! Someone speakin' my language!
For comparison,
- Seattle's "1 Line" LRT also is a bit faster than SkyTrain (Expo or Mill) [b]@45.5km/h), but has station spacing on average of 2.75km.
- REM (by my calculation) is 48.6km/h with 2.3km spacing
- EXPO is 43.5km/h (by my calculation) as it's 29km of track in 40 minutes.
According to the Surrey Extension site, Surrey to Langley will
add 22 minutes over 16km of track... which won't change that average speed.
I honestly think they're being conservative with the Surrey Skytrain line, probably a case of underpromise, overdeliver. It would be amazing if they could advertise
Langley to Waterfront in 59 minutes but that would need an average speed of 50km/h from Surrey to Langley which I think is pushing it.
Speaking of speed, I distinctly remember the Expo line being under 40 minutes. I seem to recall schedules saying it was 39 or 38 minutes. Am I imagining things? Or perhaps this is to account for increased capacity (doors opening longer) or building slack into the schedule?
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We should build a system for Expo Line relief that acts as a modern regional rail service from downtown Vancouver to downtown Surrey and beyond, but that'll take a lot of funding that we simply don't have today even for much smaller projects like the UBC extension and the SFU gondola. 
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Well... we choose not to fund it. The amount of money Toronto (Ontario) is putting into transit is crazy compared to what Vancouver gets.
One of the keys right NOW is to get these projects shovel-ready. As for a relief line, I do agree that we'll need a relief line, but I think that comes in the form of a Metrotown to North Shore Line, which will also tie together EXPO/Millennium North & South.
Rebuilding Columbia with another platform and set of parallel (or another station on top) will enable the Columbia-Production Way section to be a shuttle or branch of the Millennium line as well, freeing up all trains to go to Surrey/Langley.
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