Statistics Canada Reports II

[Metro-One]

Originally Posted by acottawa

Not with a 1.2 fertility rate.

1.2?

All the data I have found for 2025 days 1.48.

Still way too low, but not 1.2.

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by Metro-One

1.2?

All the data I have found for 2025 days 1.48.

Still way too low, but not 1.2.

Statistics Canada. "Canada's total fertility rate (TFR) was 1.25 children per woman in 2024, a record low." - and of course Japan's rate was 1.15 that year.

[Metro-One]

Okay, this is weird.

What I found is the birth rate was 1.26 in 2023, but it increased to 1.48 in 2024 and remained at 1.48 in 2025.

2022 was 1.33.

Still not good wither way.

The birthrate doesn't need to be crazy high or anything, but something between 1.9 and 2.2 is best to keep things stable and social programs healthy.

[acottawa]

Originally Posted by Metro-One

Okay, this is weird.

What I found is the birth rate was 1.26 in 2023, but it increased to 1.48 in 2024 and remained at 1.48 in 2025.

2022 was 1.33.

Still not good wither way.

The birthrate doesn't need to be crazy high or anything, but something between 1.9 and 2.2 is best to keep things stable and social programs healthy.

"Birth Rate" is usually births per 1000 people. In Canada it is 9.something.

Total Fertility Rate (which is what people are discussing here) is the number of births per women.

I think wherever you got your numbers is using old data (AI problems, perhaps).

[Coldrsx]

[Wigs]

Originally Posted by Coldrsx

Edmonton is up 2,300+ jobs
Calgary is down ~780 jobs

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by Wigs

Edmonton is up 2,300+ jobs
Calgary is down ~780 jobs

Montreal is up 3,874
Toronto is up 9,799
Ottawa/Gatineau is up 2,898
Winnipeg is up 2,092
Vancouver is up 9,776

Data source

[LeftCoaster]

What on earth happened in Vancouver?

Same head office absolute employment growth as Toronto?

Also some great per-capita gains for Winnipeg

[Zeej]

Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

What on earth happened in Vancouver?

Same head office absolute employment growth as Toronto?

Also some great per-capita gains for Winnipeg

Lululemon must be hiring!

[craner]

Originally Posted by Wigs

Edmonton is up 2,300+ jobs
Calgary is down ~780 jobs

Calgary may be down compared to 2015 but we are on an upward gain for those last 3 years and Edmonton for the last 4 years.

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by craner

Calgary may be down compared to 2015 but we are on an upward gain for those last 3 years and Edmonton for the last 4 years.

If you look at just 2021 to 2024, then Edmonton and Vancouver are going gangbusters in gaining headquartes jobs, and Calgary is still the lowest performer in percentage gain.


Edmonton + 3,399 (67% gain)
Vancouver + 10,039 (67% gain)
Winnipeg + 2,756 (42% gain)
Ottawa/Gatineau + 2,845 (39% gain)
Toronto + 16,342 (24% gain)
Montreal + 7,555 (20% gain)
Calgary + 4,337 (17% gain)

[rdaner]

^Thanks! What industries are these attached to?

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by rdaner

^Thanks! What industries are these attached to?

Any and all industries that have a headquarters in the respective CMAs. It's a survey of headquarters establishments and related employment in those offices.

[phone]

Originally Posted by Wigs

phone, you need to post your tables in the Saskatoon construction thread. I'm sure they'd appreciate the greater detailed breakdown! Not everyone ventures to the main Canada section.

Done and done

[ssiguy]

I appreciate the stats but they are somewhat misleading because not all head offices are created equal.

The 2025 Forbes Global 2000 rates companies worldwide on a number of metrics.....sales, profits, assets, and market capitalization. In the Canadian context, Toronto completely dominates the top 60 corporations with Calgary and Montreal battling it out for number 2. Vancouver maybe creating more head office jobs, which is a good thing, but it is still WAY back with Telus being the largest head office at just #27 and has only 4 in the top 60. That's pretty pathetic for our 3rd largest city and province.

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by ssiguy

I appreciate the stats but they are somewhat misleading because not all head offices are created equal.

The 2025 Forbes Global Power Index rates companies worldwide on a number of metrics.....sales, profits, assets, and market capitalization. In the Canadian context, Toronto completely dominates the top 60 corporations with Calgary and Montreal battling it out for number 2. Vancouver maybe creating more head office jobs, which is a good thing, but it is still WAY back with Telus being the largest head office at just #27 and has only 4 in the top 60. That's pretty pathetic for our 3rd largest city and province.

No it doesn't. There's no such thing as the "Forbes Global Power Index". If you mean the Global 2000, it looks at the biggest 2000 companies in the world. But it's only public companies, so the largest privately owned companies aren't included. The Statistics Canada data reports how many head offices there are in each province, and some CMAs, and how many people work there. Major private companies, including Jim Pattison Group in Vancouver would be included. Vancouver added a lot of headquarters jobs (and establishments), in the past few years. Calgary didn't add as many. Over 10 years it has lost headquarters employees. The data is not at all misleading - sales and profit data can be misleading as those may, or may not translate into economic benefit to the location of the headquarters.

[ssiguy]

^^^ You are quite correct, I mistakenly said Forbes Global Power Index when it is the Forbes Global 2000. I appreciate you correcting me and I have corrected it on the post.

It is true that Jim Pattison Group would rank fairly well in the Canadian context and, as I stated, it is nothing but good news that Vancouver is adding more head office employees. That said, the number of companies/corporations headquartered in Vancouver is still pretty small considering it's our 3rd largest city.

Having, for example, 10 companies with 1000 employees does not give a company near as much economic, financial, corporate, or political power as does 1 company with 10,000. This is why Calgary remains, by far, Western Canada's corporate capitol.

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by ssiguy

^^^ You are quite correct, I mistakenly said Forbes Global Power Index when it is the Forbes Global 2000. I appreciate you correcting me and I have corrected it on the post.

It is true that Jim Pattison Group would rank fairly well in the Canadian context and, as I stated, it is nothing but good news that Vancouver is adding more head office employees. That said, the number of companies/corporations headquartered in Vancouver is still pretty small considering it's our 3rd largest city.

Having, for example, 10 companies with 1000 employees does not give a company near as much economic, financial, corporate, or political power as does 1 company with 10,000. This is why Calgary remains, by far, Western Canada's corporate capitol.

You weirdly continually talk up Calgary and dismiss Vancouver. Calgary has the highest vacancy rate of Canadian major city office space, and Vancouver the lowest. Both cities suffer from having major investment controlled elsewhere - Vancouver has a lot of US companies (but they're growing their workforce, like Amazon and Microsoft), while Calgary is losing head office jobs as Exxon move Imperial Oil out, mostly to Texas, but some to Edmonton. It's not new - "Between 2014 and 2019, Calgary saw the departure of nine head offices and 3,600 head office jobs, according to Statistics Canada. The number of head office jobs in Alberta fell by almost 5,500 positions while it rose by almost 2,800 positions in the rest of the country." [National Observer]. The problem in part has been lack of deiversification - oil and gas is shrinking jobs, both in prodiction, and in offices. That's also becaise of consolidation - Cenovus swallowed Husky and spat out a lot of duplicate positions. (Rogers did the same to Shaw, whose headquarters were in Calgary). Vancouver could just as easily lose headquarters jobs as Calgary - but in the past few years that hasn't been the case.

[LeftCoaster]

I did a quick check of the top 100 companies in Canada by market cap, it shows Vancouver is about right where it would be expected, it's really Calgary that is the outlier (unsurprisingly) and Toronto that just has so much consolidated corporate activity.

[Coldrsx]

Guessing that is PCL for Edmonton.