Statistics Canada Reports II

[giallo]

Originally Posted by Wigs

After I finish the Montreal one for MolsonExport, sure!

Amazing. Thanks!

[someone123]

Originally Posted by Changing City

The Interest rate charged in BC this year is 2.95%. That isn't below the Bank of Canada's inflation rate.

"Under the Regular Program, you're charged simple interest at a rate not greater than 2% below the prime rate of the government's principal banker."

https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/taxes...ment-program/tax-deferment-interest-fees

Most people would love to borrow on those terms. But you're right, it's not necessarily below inflation (although it can be, and can be way below asset appreciation rates or typical investment return rates). My point is it's a no-brainer to defer and ends up having a deceptively large financial impact in many cases. As far as I know it's still not means tested.

[jamincan]

Originally Posted by Wigs

Calgary CMA

Out of curiousity, what are your motivations for compiling the CMA population separately? Statistics Canada posts CMA population estimates annually in January for their population as of July 1 the previous year. Interestingly, they actually have a slightly higher population for Calgary than you, but the numbers are very closer otherwise.

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=1710014801

[Wigs]

Originally Posted by jamincan

Out of curiousity, what are your motivations for compiling the CMA population separately? Statistics Canada posts CMA population estimates annually in January for their population as of July 1 the previous year. Interestingly, they actually have a slightly higher population for Calgary than you, but the numbers are very closer otherwise.

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=1710014801

Because people from whatever specific Metropolitan area like to see the individual breakdown from city, suburb, whatever census subdivisions are part of the CMA
You might not give a damn about Airdrie, Chestermere, or Cochrane to use the Calgary CMA example, but people from Calgary, southern Alberta, or Alberta in general might find it interesting.
Being from KW IIRC, you might like to see how much Waterloo, Cambridge, Woolwich and Wilmot are growing even if the rest of Ontario or Canada couldn't care less.

Also, I come from Niagara Region which is comprised of 12 municipalities each with some slight unique differences/identity. But together now total over 551,000 people.

And yes I'm aware about the data discrepancies heh
I've posted numerous times with these charts that how somehow gathering data from Stats Can by municipality/census subdivisions that the CMA total is different than their CMA calculation..using their own data! The 2021 numbers seem to add up correctly, but not the 2025 estimates

[jc_yyc_ca]

Thanks Wigs The Tsuu T'ina nation will be interesting to watch. There are some new residential developments proposed recently as part of the overall Taza development. It's mostly typical suburban wood frame apartments, but they'll add a few bodies into Tsuu t'ina which is fairly sparsely populated.

Originally Posted by Wigs

Calgary CMA

[Wigs]

Originally Posted by MolsonExport

I love these tables of yours. Would you do one for Montreal?

Done.

It's so effing big I had to cut it into 5 screenshots










Greater Montréal, please do some suburban amalgamation for the love of God. There doesn't need to be a suburb at every population level from 0 to 100k. Surely some property taxes can be reduced with some villages and towns merging together, instead of like 100 fiefdoms.

edit: Mister Molson Export, I expect a reply with observations and analysis of the Montreal you knew compared to the 2025 pop estimates.

[ToxiK]

Originally Posted by Wigs

Done.


Greater Montréal, please do some suburban amalgamation for the love of God. There doesn't need to be a suburb at every population level from 0 to 100k. Surely some property taxes can be reduced with some villages and towns merging together, instead of like 100 fiefdoms.

There were amalgamations in 2002 but the West Islands (and others) whined so much that Jean Charest got elected by promising to hold a referendum to demerge many municipalities (not only in Montréal). It was funny that the same people saying that Québec separatism wasn't necessary to protect Québec distinct identity wanted to separate from Montréal to protect their own distinct identity...

[kora]

Calgary could be 10 years away from passing Montreal as Canada's 2nd biggest city

[Surrealplaces]

Originally Posted by kora

Those are the future slums of those cities

Yep, for the most part I agree. It will be the case for many of the areas full of bland 6 storey wood frame buildings, but some areas will be okay.
West District for example has a lot of 6 storey wood frame, but is anchored by a couple of decent urban corridors and some bigger buildings. Plus it's in a nicer part of the city.

Seton is also similar. It has a lot of 6 storey wood frame, but is anchored by a small core which is finally starting to come together.

As for many of the other 6 floor wood frame apartments. They're creating better density than past greenfield builds, but it feels like density for density's sake and no real semblance of a nice urban neighborhood.

[Wigs]

Originally Posted by jc_yyc_ca

Thanks Wigs The Tsuu T'ina nation will be interesting to watch. There are some new residential developments proposed recently as part of the overall Taza development. It's mostly typical suburban wood frame apartments, but they'll add a few bodies into Tsuu t'ina which is fairly sparsely populated.

Glad to hear.
My only gripe is the link you posted showed a design that's too cookie cutter.
It would be nice to see designs with some band/tribe member input.

I should mention there was no data for 2021 population of Tsuu T'ina nation, so I just used the 2016 number. It seems like during the 2021 census a lot of First Nations did not participate due to Covid reasons or otherwise.
https://www12.statcan.gc.ca/census-recen...ge.cfm?topic=1&lang=E&dguid=2021S0503825

[Mr Tall Forehead]

Originally Posted by Wigs

Done.

It's so effing big I had to cut it into 5 screenshots










Greater Montréal, please do some suburban amalgamation for the love of God. There doesn't need to be a suburb at every population level from 0 to 100k. Surely some property taxes can be reduced with some villages and towns merging together, instead of like 100 fiefdoms.

edit: Mister Molson Export, I expect a reply with observations and analysis of the Montreal you knew compared the 2025 pop estimates.

Great job with all these, Wigs!

We’re all better informed because of your efforts.

WTH Dorval? Did everyone leave??

[Surrealplaces]

Originally Posted by Wigs

Glad to hear.
My only gripe is the link you posted showed a design that's too cookie cutter.
It would be nice to see designs with some band/tribe member input.

I should mention there was no data for 2021 population of Tsuu T'ina nation, so I just used the 2016 number. It seems like during the 2021 census a lot of First Nations did not participate due to Covid reasons or otherwise.
https://www12.statcan.gc.ca/census-recen...ge.cfm?topic=1&lang=E&dguid=2021S0503825

Unfortunately it doesn't look like there will be much flare other than the typical suburban design. It's mostly big box stores as well.

The only cool thing so far is the Costco has all the signage in both English and Tsuu T'ina.

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by kora

Calgary could be 10 years away from passing Montreal as Canada's 2nd biggest city

I presume you mean city proper and not CMA population.

[MonctonRad]

Rank Order Atlantic Canadian CMA/CA Populations, 2026 Estimate, and Percentage Change since 2021

1) Halifax, NS - 544,834 (13.0%)
2) St, John's, NL - 243,478 (10.6%)
3) Moncton, NB - 196,143 (21.3%)
4) Saint John, NB - 144,343 (8.6%)
5) Fredericton, NB - 125,303 (12.9%)
6) Sydney (CBRM), NS - 111,889 (11,1%)
7) Charlottetown, PE - 96,516 (16.1%)
8) Truro, NS - 51,155 (6.4%)
9) New Glasgow, NS - 36,677 ( 3.7%)
10) Bathurst, NB - 33,467 (5.0%)
11) Corner Brook, NL - 31,880 (3.4%)
12) Miramichi, NB - 30,218 (7.5%)
13) Kentville, NS - 29,599 (6.4%)
14) Edmundston, NB - 24,655 (9.5%)
15) Summerside, PE - 21,107 (10.3%)
16) Campbellton, NB - 15,554 (2.3%)
17) Grand Falls/Windsor NL - 14,549 (1,7%)
18) Gander, NL - 14,389 (4.1%)

Percentage Change since 2021 (Top 10)

1) Moncton, NB - 21.3%
2) Charlottetown, PE - 16.1%
3) Halifax, NS - 13.0%
4) Fredericton, NB - 12.9%
5) Sydney (CBRM), NS - 11.1%
6) St. John's, NL - 10.6%
7) Summerside, PE - 10.3%
8) Edmundston, NB - 9.5%
9) Saint John, NB - 8.6%
10) Miramichi, NB - 7.5%

Notes:

- Every CMA/CA in Atlantic Canada had a positive growth rate from 2021-2026.
- The growth rate in CBRM was really surprising, but, this is heavily influenced by international immigration (especially non permanent residents), and is really dependent upon CBU which has one of the largest proportional international student bodies in the country. Recent changes to immigration policy will have a negative effect on the CBRM population. The population of CBRM actually fell last year.

[MolsonExport]

Originally Posted by Wigs

Done.

It's so effing big I had to cut it into 5 screenshots










Greater Montréal, please do some suburban amalgamation for the love of God. There doesn't need to be a suburb at every population level from 0 to 100k. Surely some property taxes can be reduced with some villages and towns merging together, instead of like 100 fiefdoms.

edit: Mister Molson Export, I expect a reply with observations and analysis of the Montreal you knew compared to the 2025 pop estimates.

this is amazing, and I really appreciate the hard work.
I will have to analyze it more when I can spare some time....good to see that all my old stompin' grounds (except Baie d'Urfe) are gaining population (this wasn't always the case over the many years when I lived and worked in various Montreal-area cities and neighborhoods [namely Ste.-Anne-de-Bellevue, Senneville, Beaconsfield, Kirkland, Baie d'Urfe, Pointe Claire, Dorval, St. Laurent, Notre-Dame-de-Grace, Westmount, Ville Marie, Shaughnessy Village, Cote-des-Neiges, McGill Ghetto, Plateau Mt. Royal).

it will be interesting to see, in 10 years, what effect the REM has on various municipalities' populations.

[Wigs]

Originally Posted by giallo

These are great. An easy-to-read format and super convenient when you want to see a municipal population.

You wouldn't have a Vancouver one in ya, would you, Wigs?

Done.
Unlike Montreal, this was easier and only had to be cut into 2 screenshots that I was able to line up almost perfectly
It should be noted that even though I'm using Stat Can CSD census subdivision data for each municipality that for some reason the total is off from Stat Can CMA numbers

As the forum sticklers have pointed out the 2021 Census may be undercounting population by up to 5%. But for most of us the quinquennial Census is like the official base line. Can't please everyone

[Vantage]

The growth in Surrey and the Langleys is crazy.

[giallo]

Originally Posted by Wigs

Done.
Unlike Montreal, this was easier and only had to be cut into 2 screenshots that I was able to line up almost perfectly
It should be noted that even though I'm using Stat Can CSD census subdivision data for each municipality that for some reason the total is off from Stat Can CMA numbers

As the forum sticklers have pointed out the 2021 Census may be undercounting population by up to 5%. But for most of us the quinquennial Census is like the official base line. Can't please everyone

Thanks so much for doing this!

Surrey truly exploded in the last five years.
It's crazy to me that New West almost has 100,000 people. The city is teeny tiny at 15km².

[GreaterMontréal]

Le Plateau-Mont-Royal borough has 113,000 people , 8,1km². New West is similar to Le Sud-Ouest borough, 94k 15,7km².

[Architype]

Originally Posted by giallo

..
Surrey truly exploded in the last five years.
It's crazy to me that New West almost has 100,000 people. The city is teeny tiny at 15km².

I've got the impression that most of the new immigrants and TFWs are living in Surrey.