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Old Posted Dec 8, 2025, 7:56 PM
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In other words it’ll just be called the new pattullo bridge
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Anyone know what terrible things Mr Pattullo did back in the day to force this name change? Was he racist?
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Old Posted Dec 8, 2025, 8:08 PM
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Anyone know what terrible things Mr Pattullo did back in the day to force this name change? Was he racist?
Yup

https://www.ctvnews.ca/vancouver/article...-by-taking-name-off-new-pattullo-bridge/
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Old Posted Dec 8, 2025, 8:12 PM
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Anyone know what terrible things Mr Pattullo did back in the day to force this name change? Was he racist?
Maybe anti-immigrant or a xenophobe.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/pattullo-bridge-chinese-canadian-new-name-1.5755385
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Aaaaaand there's already comments on Dailyhive from old men complaining about this like the fucking Gestapo are going to show up at their door if they dare say the name Pattullo out loud. Call it Pattullo, call it Riverview, call it by its Halkomelem name. Who cares? Do what you like.
Realistically, what percentage of the population can pronounce the indigenous name?

So your left with Riverview Bridge which to many residents would indicate a bridge much further up the river, you know, near Riverview.
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Old Posted Dec 8, 2025, 9:31 PM
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At least this time we get an official English name that everyone will use. Thank god.

Not that Riverview is a particularly good name, but better than something untypeable. I noticed that Google Maps gave up on displaying the new name for Truth and has settled on Musqueumview.

Will the new thread title be Riverview Bridge? Or Riverview/stal̕əw̓asəm? Can this ancient forum even handle rare languages in titles?
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Old Posted Dec 8, 2025, 9:40 PM
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Realistically, what percentage of the population can pronounce the indigenous name?
99.999% of them. It's basically Staluwasum, pronounced "stall-o-awesome..." which should probably have been the official name instead.
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Old Posted Dec 8, 2025, 9:43 PM
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Wasn’t that just like everyone then? Lol
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Old Posted Dec 8, 2025, 10:13 PM
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In other words it’ll just be called the new pattullo bridge
I was going to come in here and make the exact same statement to see how many people that pissed off but thanks for saving me the effort.

And yes, most people will call it the Pattullo even after the old one is gone, just like how the New Port Mann is still known as the Port Mann, even thought that bridge is also long gone. We don't do this to make ourselves seem like an asshole, we stick to old names because of the baggage of occasionally explaining why we suddenly changed the name, like a divorced grade 2 teacher explaining to the class why she's now Ms. Mills as opposed to Ms. Henderson.

We get that the gov is still in "Thou Shalt Only Speaketh of Reconciliation" mode, but that's a hard one to believe with how the current land claim gaffe is going.
"We'll give you everything we can to remember the horrible things that happened to you, name parks, bridges and streets to remember.....but hold on, we gotta rethink letting you get dibs on your land again."

Edited: tl;dr the naming comes across as really hollow and non-symbolic.

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Realistically, what percentage of the population can pronounce the indigenous name...
"STALL-oh-ah-sum", according to the Daily Hive article. Shouldn't really be an issue for anyone who can already handle pronouncing "sc̓əwaθən məsteyəxʷ" for the municipality and ferry terminal to Victoria.
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Old Posted Dec 8, 2025, 10:23 PM
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...just like how the New Port Mann is still known as the Port Mann...
With respect to your example, the new Port Mann Bridge is known as the Port Mann Bridge because that is its official name. It takes time to adapt, but eventually we get used to new names for established things, such as the Ironworkers bridge.
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With respect to your example, the new Port Mann Bridge is known as the Port Mann Bridge because that is its official name. It takes time to adapt, but eventually we get used to new names for established things, such as the Ironworkers bridge.
......fair.
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Old Posted Dec 8, 2025, 10:31 PM
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"STALL-oh-ah-sum", according to the Daily Hive article. Shouldn't really be an issue for anyone who can already handle pronouncing "sc̓əwaθən məsteyəxʷ" for the municipality and ferry terminal to Victoria.
It’s not that it’s hard to pronounce. It’s hard to read. It’s like putting the name in Cyrillic Or Chinese characters.
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Old Posted Dec 8, 2025, 10:33 PM
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"STALL-oh-ah-sum", according to the Daily Hive article. Shouldn't really be an issue for anyone who can already handle pronouncing "sc̓əwaθən məsteyəxʷ" for the municipality and ferry terminal to Victoria.
I think we should encourage more businesses in Vancouver and Richmond to adopt Chinese only names. It shouldn't be an issue for anyone who can already handle pronouncing 海底捞火锅 and 鼎泰豐 for the popular restaurants.



EDIT: Thread title should be Riverview/stal̕əw̓asəm, the English name is official.
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Old Posted Dec 8, 2025, 10:39 PM
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Again, I don't see why it couldn't have been Stalawasem/stal̕əw̓asəm, which solves almost every problem except "it's not Pattullo."

Riverview/stal̕əw̓asəm guarantees that it'll be known as "Riverview" and defeats the entire purpose of renaming it.
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It’s not that it’s hard to pronounce. It’s hard to read. It’s like putting the name in Cyrillic Or Chinese characters.
But the name is in Latin characters.
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But the name is in Latin characters.
No it isn't? Which Latin letter is ə?
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Old Posted Dec 8, 2025, 10:49 PM
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But the name is in Latin characters.
Huh? No it isnt.

This is in Latin characters: Stalawasem

This is not: stal̕əw̓asəm

Also, the name is pretty lame name. Riverview is very generic

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No it isn't? Which Latin letter is ə?
“Ə, or ə, is an additional letter of the Latin alphabet.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwa_(letter)
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Old Posted Dec 8, 2025, 11:05 PM
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Thorn, eth and wynn were also letters at one time, but I don't see the point of bringing them back just for the sake of a few place names.
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