7 Eleven closes Downtown Drake/Granville

[SeymourDrake]

I wasn't sure where to post this so if the Mods can move it to where it belongs i would appreciate it. Thank you


I just noticed that 7 Eleven on the corner of Drake and Granville has closed down. Everything is still there except the Food.

I was wondering if they are preparing to build something else on that Block. Half the Block is empty.

Has anyone heard anything about any plans for that block?

thx

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by SeymourDrake

I wasn't sure where to post this so if the Mods can move it to where it belongs i would appreciate it. Thank you


I just noticed that 7 Eleven on the corner of Drake and Granville has closed down. Everything is still there except the Food.

I was wondering they are preparing to build something else on that Block. Half the Block is empty.

Has anyone heard anything about any plans for that block?

thx

Just a 6 storey redevelopment from back in 2020. Not sure they can build anything much taller since their lot is so small.

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by SeymourDrake

I wasn't sure where to post this so if the Mods can move it to where it belongs i would appreciate it. Thank you


I just noticed that 7 Eleven on the corner of Drake and Granville has closed down. Everything is still there except the Food.

I was wondering they are preparing to build something else on that Block. Half the Block is empty.

Has anyone heard anything about any plans for that block?

thx

I haven't heard anything, and this statement is sort of an educated guess, but looking at the map of that region, lower downtown Granville, I see One Stop Shop, Urban Choice Market, and Starbucks (not unsurprisingly) all in the adjacent 'hood. Perhaps that 7Eleven just wasn't doing enough business, but that's just an idea.

[Spr0ckets]

Originally Posted by trofirhen

I haven't heard anything, and this statement is sort of an educated guess, but looking at the map of that region, lower downtown Granville, I see One Stop Shop, Urban Choice Market, and Starbucks (not unsurprisingly) all in the adjacent 'hood. Perhaps that 7Eleven just wasn't doing enough business, but that's just an idea.

7 Elevens are closing up shop everywhere.
So doubtful, that that location was the cause (or the competition in the area).

This seems to be a wider-corporate related shrinking.

They've pretty much closed all locations in the Metrotown vicinity and the Downtown locations have been slowly closing down one by one all over the city.


Kinda like Starbucks in this respect.
Only Starbucks still seem to be operating quite fine in the locations they're still open. But they were over-stretched prior to this current cutback and the pandemic just seems to have triggered the closure of the more under-performing locations.

Maybe that's the same situation with 7 Elevens.

[whatnext]

Every time a downtown 7-11 closes an angel gets its wings. Add Timmie Ho’s to that list. The two are such magnets for deadbeats and disorder. The weird thing is, an independent corner store can be just a block or two away and not attract that same group. Ditto other coffee shops.

[SeymourDrake]

Originally Posted by whatnext

Every time a downtown 7-11 closes an angel gets its wings. Add Timmie Ho’s to that list. The two are such magnets for deadbeats and disorder. The weird thing is, an independent corner store can be just a block or two away and not attract that same group. Ditto other coffee shops.

Everywhere in that area is a magnet for the homeless and crime.

7 Eleven isn't the only business that attracts the above.

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by SeymourDrake

Everywhere in that area is a magnet for the homeless and crime.

7 Eleven isn't the only business that attracts the above.

7-11 is in a league of its own in that regard.

[SpongeG]

Almost all the 7-11s not in a gas station here in Coquitlam have shut down. Circle K needs to step up its game, In Bali there must be one Circle K on every block on both sides of the street.

[NewfBC]

Originally Posted by SpongeG

Almost all the 7-11s not in a gas station here in Coquitlam have shut down. Circle K needs to step up its game, In Bali there must be one Circle K on every block on both sides of the street.

Sounds like 7-11 in Japan, Thailand, Phillipeans, etc. 7-11 Canada has terrible management.. the Japanese parent needs to step in to revive it like they're trying to do in the US.

Ron.

[kikin]

Originally Posted by NewfBC

Sounds like 7-11 in Japan, Thailand, Phillipeans, etc. 7-11 Canada has terrible management.. the Japanese parent needs to step in to revive it like they're trying to do in the US.

Ron.

What exactly are they doing wrong here? When I went in it looks like they are trying, but they are often the victim of our crappy justice system and lack of a vibrant economy. The 7-11 on Dunsmuir has the pepsi and coke cans locked up behind glass that you have to ask for. This is a huge difference from Japan where they can set products out on the sidewalk and nobody will steal them or vandalize things.

[SeymourDrake]

Originally Posted by kikin

What exactly are they doing wrong here? When I went in it looks like they are trying, but they are often the victim of our crappy justice system and lack of a vibrant economy. The 7-11 on Dunsmuir has the pepsi and coke cans locked up behind glass that you have to ask for. This is a huge difference from Japan where they can set products out on the sidewalk and nobody will steal them or vandalize things.

The Drake/Granville location had their Ice cream cooler locked up as well.

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by kikin

What exactly are they doing wrong here? When I went in it looks like they are trying, but they are often the victim of our crappy justice system and lack of a vibrant economy. The 7-11 on Dunsmuir has the pepsi and coke cans locked up behind glass that you have to ask for. This is a huge difference from Japan where they can set products out on the sidewalk and nobody will steal them or vandalize things.

A lax justice system here. A “shame culture” in Japan that would be a huge deterrent to the lawless kind of behaviour seen here.

But that still doesn’t explain why “Joe’s Corner Store” can operate without being surrounded by a crowd of junkies yet 7-11 can’t.

[logan5]

All the ingredients are in place to make Granville the next East Hastings. Granville Street is lined with supportive housing and SRO's, and you have businesses closing or struggling because a large population of highly dysfunctional people are disrupting their businesses.

When the Broadway Corridor starts to build up, and it starts to look and feel much like the downtown peninsula, businesses along Granville will start to move away from Granville and into the Broadway corridor neighbourhoods, where Main Street will be a much better version of Granville Street. Or South Granville.

This is what happened to East Hastings in the DTES. All the businesses moved west to greener pastures, and all that was left was poverty and addiction. The same thing will happen to Granville Street.

[SKYSTHELIMIT]

This store is only temporarily closed until Dec 23rd est. It is having repairs and a minor renovation according to a vendor notice.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by logan5

All the ingredients are in place to make Granville the next East Hastings. Granville Street is lined with supportive housing and SRO's, and you have businesses closing or struggling because a large population of highly dysfunctional people are disrupting their businesses.

When the Broadway Corridor starts to build up, and it starts to look and feel much like the downtown peninsula, businesses along Granville will start to move away from Granville and into the Broadway corridor neighbourhoods, where Main Street will be a much better version of Granville Street. Or South Granville.

This is what happened to East Hastings in the DTES. All the businesses moved west to greener pastures, and all that was left was poverty and addiction. The same thing will happen to Granville Street.

As somebody who pushes back against the fear mongering in this thread I'm surprised to see you with this take.

A few blocks of Granville have been in rough shape since COVID but improvements are already well on the way, including getting rid of the worst SRO or two.

Rec Room just opened and that end of Granville is seeing the other new spaces fill up as well.

[Vin]

Originally Posted by kikin

What exactly are they doing wrong here? When I went in it looks like they are trying, but they are often the victim of our crappy justice system and lack of a vibrant economy. The 7-11 on Dunsmuir has the pepsi and coke cans locked up behind glass that you have to ask for. This is a huge difference from Japan where they can set products out on the sidewalk and nobody will steal them or vandalize things.

Absolutely right on! Our crappy justice system here is the main cause.

Even though there is a huge population living in this neighbourhood, the rif-rafs hanging around seem to dissuade people from going in there. This is not to mention the daily dramas where losers are seen rushing off with stolen stuff and stinking up the entire neighbourhood in the process. So much money needs to be spent on store security, etc., that businesses with low profit margins are leaving in droves.

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

As somebody who pushes back against the fear mongering in this thread I'm surprised to see you with this take.

A few blocks of Granville have been in rough shape since COVID but improvements are already well on the way, including getting rid of the worst SRO or two.

Rec Room just opened and that end of Granville is seeing the other new spaces fill up as well.

After the man visited other Canadian cities, especially Toronto, his eyes have opened. He may still be in denial about that change, but he is no longer the old logan5 "who pushes back against fear-mongering".

[LeftCoaster]

Originally Posted by whatnext

But that still doesn’t explain why “Joe’s Corner Store” can operate without being surrounded by a crowd of junkies yet 7-11 can’t.

One is a family business run (and likely staffed) by people whose livelihood depend on not getting robbed and run into the ground by junkies.

The other is run and staffed by employees who gain nothing by chasing junkies down the street and lose nothing by the shoplifting that occurs. Very little incentive to lay down the law so the undesirables naturally congregate there not at the family run business.

I'd assume all things being equal the junkies would rather rob the big corporation than the mom and pop too. Not to give them too much credit or anything though.

[kikin]

Originally Posted by logan5

This is what happened to East Hastings in the DTES. All the businesses moved west to greener pastures, and all that was left was poverty and addiction. The same thing will happen to Granville Street.

not going to happen, in fact Broadway is going to start to attract more of the "sleeping on the sidewalk" crowd when the train is finished

the governments realize the mistakes they have made around Granville and are now going to have to start to fix the bad decisions that were made

[logan5]

Originally Posted by Vin

Absolutely right on! Our crappy justice system here is the main cause.

Even though there is a huge population living in this neighbourhood, the rif-rafs hanging around seem to dissuade people from going in there. This is not to mention the daily dramas where losers are seen rushing off with stolen stuff and stinking up the entire neighbourhood in the process. So much money needs to be spent on store security, etc., that businesses with low profit margins are leaving in droves.



After the man visited other Canadian cities, especially Toronto, his eyes have opened. He may still be in denial about that change, but he is no longer the old logan5 "who pushes back against fear-mongering".

You don't know what you are talking about. Don't post ignorant assumptions about me, so kindly STFU.

[jollyburger]

It's open again?