Winnipeg | University of Manitoba | Southwood Circle

[bomberjet]

Seems quite extensive.

https://humanrights.ca/news/cmhr-release...dings-new-light-cast-historic-role-forks

[Wpg_Guy]

RFP # CR-0005-2526-OD - Consulting Services – Design Architect for National Centre for Truth and Reconciliation (710C210728-01)

[Wpg_Guy]

https://bomamanitoba.ca/insider-20/

[plrh]

Sewer and water work was tendered for the Anne Oake Recovery Centre in Southwood Circle. It will be located between Snow St and Bohemier Trail, beside the Fairway Woods Luxury Apartments. It also services the area north of the stadium transit loop. It's Phase 1C of Southwood Circle.

[EndIt]

Originally Posted by bomberjet

Seems quite extensive.

https://humanrights.ca/news/cmhr-release...dings-new-light-cast-historic-role-forks

That's a damage control piece, bragging about doing the bare minimum and sometimes less to satisfy our outdated heritage regs. I know the Archaeologists who worked on it and they were and are furious about how it was handled.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/archeology-report-criticizes-human-rights-museum-1.1087918

If you want to know more, attend a Manitoba Archaeological Society meeting and mention the CMHR offhand, you'll get an earful lol. It's a shame we don't promote our ancient history in Manitoba. We don't have pyramids or big stone ruins, but there's plenty of interesting stuff. The Northernmost point of precontact maize agriculture is in Lockport!

[trueviking]

I was just looking at the development requirements for phase 1 of Southwood Circle.

Parking required is one stall per residential unit and three stalls for every 1,000 square feet of commercial space.

All parking must be underground or in above ground structured parking.

The entire first phase is 3.5 million square feet of land area.

At full build out, required parking will be 4,000 cars. That's about 1.2 million square feet of area.

[borkborkbork]

Originally Posted by trueviking

I was just looking at the development requirements for phase 1 of Southwood Circle.

Parking required is one stall per residential unit and three stalls for every 1,000 square feet of commercial space.

All parking must be underground or in above ground structured parking.

The entire first phase is 3.5 million square feet of land area.

At full build out, required parking will be 4,000 cars. That's about 1.2 million square feet of area.

How long until they get no bites on that and start approving podium-parkade type designs or tuck-under ground level parking?

[Mr Tall Forehead]

^ and how long after that until they start approving stuff like this:

https://www.google.ca/maps/@49.8376141,-..._ep=EgoyMDI1MDkxNy4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

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Odd choice to require top-level environmental standards for the buildings, but also institute a parking minimum. Are the parking reqs coming from the city or the developers?

[James Bond Agent 007]

Originally Posted by Mr Tall Forehead

^ and how long after that until they start approving stuff like this:

https://www.google.ca/maps/@49.8376141,-..._ep=EgoyMDI1MDkxNy4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

They should at least make apartments that look like this:
https://rentola.no/en/listings/ralekker-...oy-standard-fra-2021-garasjeleie-p90a355

[James Bond Agent 007]

Or this:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/M%C3%B..._ep=EgoyMDI1MDkxNy4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

Or this:

• Video Link

If I move to Winnipeg maybe I'll try to start a movement to "Scandinavianize" Winnipeg architecture and planning. I think it would be a good style for Winnipeg to emulate, would fit in nicely.

[WildCake]

Originally Posted by James Bond Agent 007

Or this:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/M%C3%B..._ep=EgoyMDI1MDkxNy4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

Or this:

• Video Link

If I move to Winnipeg maybe I'll try to start a movement to "Scandinavianize" Winnipeg architecture and planning. I think it would be a good style for Winnipeg to emulate, would fit in nicely.

I mean everything in the marketing and promotion of this development as well as the standards set out makes it seem like there will be fairly stringent quality requirements, even if it doesn't exactly look Scandinavianized like in those photos.

Even if they have to give some slack in their building requirements, there's a long way to go before we hit cut/paste greenfield with a parking lot larger than the building itself. I'm convinced this will be a quality development.

[borkborkbork]

Has any developer actually signed on for this development, or is it still just a wish list from a bunch of university planners?

"Come build in our development!

It's leased land, and all the costs of servicing for district geothermal, park maintenance, roads, etc. will be determined solely by the university and passed along to the developers.

There are parking minimums, but the parking can't be inexpensive. It's either got to be underground (in a flood prone area with a high water table), or above-ground, since the main floor has to be retail.

The buildings have to be LEED Gold, exceed accessibility standards, have green roofs, be 20% more efficient than MECB, and use no water other than greywater/rainwater for irrigation. You need to install public art that costs at least 1% of your total development budget. You have to have double the usual city parkland requirements, and all waterfront spaces have to be publicly accessible. You have to have EV charging, bike parking, and car-share programs.

Also, your design will go through a committee review, and despite all these requirements, the community has to be affordable for all income levels without segregation."



Maybe these details have changed but I remember hearing a developer talk about it and their reaction was basically "lol; lmao"

[Biff]

They had a developer for a 23 storey building, but they backed out. Was supposed to start early in 2025.

[Wpg_Guy]

[Biff]

Southwood Circle is going to have the nicest community with the cleanest streets, most beautiful landscaping and setting....only thing lacking is buildings and people.

[pspeid]

Originally Posted by Biff

Southwood Circle is going to have the nicest community with the cleanest streets, most beautiful landscaping and setting....only thing lacking is buildings and people.

People and building screw things up anyway. Just look at the pretty pictures....

[FactaNV]

Has there been any movement on the buildings? Still too strict of conditions?

[lbnevs]

Originally Posted by Biff

Southwood Circle is going to have the nicest community with the cleanest streets, most beautiful landscaping and setting....only thing lacking is buildings and people.

ahhaha so true

drove by yesterday and they've done a beautiful job lighting up one tree. full trunk and branch wrap. seems strange since there's no actual buildings or people and it's mostly just site preparation work.

[Wpg_Guy]

Colliers Winnipeg is pleased to offer the initial release of premium lots in Winnipeg’s landmark master-planned community, Southwood Circle. This offering is an exceptional opportunity for developers and investors to secure multifamily lots in the first phase of a 112 acre mixed use development that is directly adjacent to the University of Manitoba (40,000 person daytime population), Princess Auto Stadium, and the Victoria General Hospital.



Many of the lots available in Phase I have river-front view, are the closest in proximity to the adjacent amenities, and can be Transit-Oriented Developments with immediate proximity to the Rapid Transit Station that run directly through Southwood Circle. The sites are zoned, serviced, fully entitled, and permit-ready, with no offsite costs. Additionally, UM Properties has already dedicated public parkland along the Red River to the site.

Southwood Circle - Brochure.pdf