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Old Posted Nov 30, 2025, 9:48 PM
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Hard to imagine 804 feet of that cladding and over 1000 for the second tower. Saw it in person for the first time yesterday, and tons of people walking by looking up at it. It's looking amazing so far.
Let us hope the second tower moves ahead one of these days.
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It's actually 862 feet, or 263 metres.

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^ Ha - what a stub!

That cladding catches the light from so many angles - going to be awesome.
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Old Posted Dec 1, 2025, 3:59 AM
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In renders, because we never really got high-res renders, I wasn't a fan of how the crumpled part looked. But now seeing more and more of it in person, I'm loving it.

I know it's aluminum but it's giving me an urge to whip a fridge magnet at it.

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Old Posted Dec 1, 2025, 4:30 AM
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Concord Sky 300.2m 85st

This thing is a beast already. I still have no opinion on this tower.
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Hard to imagine 804 feet of that cladding and over 1000 for the second tower. Saw it in person for the first time yesterday, and tons of people walking by looking up at it. It's looking amazing so far.
865ft or 263m. She’s going to be a beast. Will rank among the tallest 10 towers in Canada.

Right now Toronto has their #1, #2, #3 and #8 tallest towers under construction simultaneously. These numbers also are true for Canada as a country.

Also, I had a nice lengthy chat with John Peets last night over at Oxford and let’s just say that Canadas tallest office tower (to top of spire) will be highly likely to start construction in 2026! It will become Toronto’s 4th supertall to join the under construction list.

Exciting times ahead!

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865ft or 263m. She’s going to be a beast. Will rank among the tallest 10 towers in Canada.

Right now Toronto has their #1, #2, #3 and #8 tallest towers under construction simultaneously. These numbers also are true for Canada as a country.

Also, I had a nice lengthy chat with John Peets last night over at Oxford and let’s just say that Canadas tallest office tower (to top of spire) will be highly likely to start construction in 2026! It will become Toronto’s 4th supertall to join the under construction list.

Exciting times ahead!
Tallest to top of spire but not to roof? Guess the Hub will be moving forward which I suppose is good to get rid of that vacant lot even if I'm not sold on the tower design.
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Tallest to top of spire but not to roof? Guess the Hub will be moving forward which I suppose is good to get rid of that vacant lot even if I'm not sold on the tower design.
Well nothing is certain in this market. But they have two very interested parties that would take the remaining 900k square feet for naming rights. It’s only a matter of time before this one breaks ground.

And yes , the top spire part of the design takes this baby over 300m. By CTBUH standards she’s a supertall. Roof height is 848ft (258.6m) making it the tallest office tower to go up in Canada since 1990 if you want to use roof metrics.
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Tell them not to make it blue glass. There's too much blue and green glass in the southcore as is.
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I like spires, so I don't care if it's a cheat supertall. I'm also not sold on that design, it seems bulky, but that might work now with Sky Tower near by.
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Tell them not to make it blue glass. There's too much blue and green glass in the southcore as is.
The current design is more brown/beige, which is a welcome departure, colour-wise. Unfortunately, years ago the proposal was cut by a couple-hundred feet. That is when I lost interest, because the bulk of the original design was retained rather than slimming it down (it resembles a fatter, shorter The One). A proper spire, like the ESB or Chrysler has, would be a novelty for the Toronto skyline, but this chunky building has a glorified antenna.
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The current design is more brown/beige, which is a welcome departure, colour-wise. Unfortunately, years ago the proposal was cut by a couple-hundred feet. That is when I lost interest, because the bulk of the original design was retained rather than slimming it down (it resembles a fatter, shorter The One). A proper spire, like the ESB or Chrysler has, would be a novelty for the Toronto skyline, but this chunky building has a glorified antenna.
It's like a fat, shorter cousin of One Bloor West. Maybe it's name needs a "C" in front of it.

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To be clear, i don't hate it or anything. I just think the design is a missed opportunity. With the roofline, one thing I'd suggest is instead of having those two delicate little sticks poking up, instead have the exterior "latter" exo-skeleton continue up to act as the spire but with the top portion indented into the building envelope, perhaps until they're equal distance from each other as the beams of each latter. A spire needs to feel like a natural continuation of the building's design. It's supposed to be a building saying, "I represent such strength and ambition that I'm going to reach as far into the sky as i possibly can and keep going beyond the limits of the practical." The ESB and Chrysler do that with a more traditional taper where the building has setbacks and there's a pedestal that the spire sits on. But there are other ways to do it. In this case, the part where the latter exo-skeleton bends 90 degrees inward would act as the pedestal to the spire. Well in this case, 4 spires each formed by two separate beams. And of course, carry the spires up twice as high as in the rendering.

That would actually draw some parallels with a couple of buildings in Melbourne, specifically 120 and 101 Collins St. While not my all-time favourites or anything, they're kind of cool imo.


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I just can’t get excited for the Hub - hope the potential tenants kick-start a different tower instead.
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Let's put things in perspective here.

If it was completed today, the HUB would be the tallest building, just to its 257m roofline, outside of the GTA.

More importantly, the HUB is designed by an internationally-renowned firm: RSHP - the same firm (if not individual) that gave us the Pompidou centre and Lloyd's insurance building in London. The HUB would actually be their second tallest tower after 3 WTC in NYC and, unlike 3 WTC, the design is much more of an homage to Richard Rogers' actual style. This is not a residential project, this is Class A office space from Oxford properties. The materials and build quality will be top notch.

The ground level is the best part of this project and I would go so far as to say it's one of the most exciting ground level treatments we've had in a Canadian skyscraper this century. It's even better than the soaring open space of 1 Bloor West.

Look at this thing:



The giant, hulking mass is cantilevered 50 meters above street level on 8 massive Citigroup Center-like columns, and the lobby itself will be a dramatic space with no columns at the edges.
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Gave it a ridiculous roof that would only work on a tower 200ft taller.

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Gave it a ridiculous roof that would only work on a tower 200ft taller.

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This actually looks better!!! why can't there be a unique shape in the skyline?
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Old Posted Dec 3, 2025, 2:42 AM
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I'll take it!
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Meh - it’s just not working for me in any iteration.
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Apparently AIs next year will be able to handle tasks that would take hours long if a human did it.

The Hub may become the last skyscraper office tower we build

Unless you want to fill towers will dental offices from now on, that is.
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