Manitoba | Highways

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Originally Posted by WildCake

Cite your sources - you've been touting that the North Perimeter is much worse but you've yet to bring up any evidence of that.

The MTI 2023 traffic flow maps show pretty equal traffic counts on the North and South Perimeter.

https://www.gov.mb.ca/mti/traffic/mhtis/flowmap_2023.pdf

Source: https://www.gov.mb.ca/mti/traffic/counts.html

Use the map for more current info than that outdate PDF.

Originally Posted by WildCake

The hot spots are the Red River and Assiniboine River crossings, with fewer in-city options forcing traffic to use those bridges, and those areas also tend to be the areas of the Perimeter that are surrounded by the built-up portion of the city, not fields. Yes, PTH 8 to Henderson is the busiest segment, but those are currently interchange-controlled.

Henderson would benefit from ramp lengthening so the interaction points with exit/merge traffic are well away from the bridge. Also the Main NB to Perimeter EB flow is a major conflict point. Not as bad as some but without additional lanes on the Henderson bridge there will not be an easy solution. The easiest might be to repurpose the current bridge as EB only and build a new WB span to the north of the current bridge.

Originally Posted by WildCake

Cite your sources

Originally Posted by WildCake

Looking at that map, St Anne's to 59S is the busiest stretch of the whole Perimeter that isn't a river crossing.

As you said, cite your sources. By my read on the MTI site the following all have significantly higher traffic counts without a river:

Pipeline, HWY 7, HWY 3 and Kennaston.

Originally Posted by WildCake

Even with similar enough traffic counts, we have to also be looking at collisions, including severe collisions and fatalities. Which MTI has presented with that graph using the coloured circles. We don't know the methodology behind it but it provides a good snapshot. So St Anne's, Dugald, and Deacons are the 3 worst ones in the Province. Pretty obvious to me which intersections on the Perimeter should be addressed first, which MTI seems to be working towards. Unless you have compelling evidence otherwise, I can't understand this fixation on the North Perimeter being dramatically worse than the South Perimeter.

Again, as you say "cite your sources".

The traffic volumes at Portage and the Perimeter on not managable at the current volume and more serious and fatal collisions will result.

Here is one that has already happened:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/winnipeg-perimeter-closed-1.4134127

How many people do you think should die before action is taken to fix the dangerous situation?

Again, as you like to say, "cite your sources".