SAN ANTONIO | Spurs Arena Downtown

[MolcaJete]

Read the recent UT San Antonio poll about tepid support. My gut instinct tells me it will pass. I hope so. Last Friday I was at Blue Star and had to come up Alamo St and turn right on Chavez. It was pretty exciting to see the effect of the area by the arena/Proj Marvel. I passed countless of restaurants (and different variety) within walking distance of Hemisfair and along Alamo St. More of a Wing Daddy's type of person? I could easily see one opening up in Rivercenter. Then walk over for the game.

It's puzzling that no one is referring to the existing restaurant and housing development and that nothing is starting from square one. Unlike the false promise of the FBC location. Anyway, it really was exciting to see.

[SpiritofSeguin]

When they write the book on Project Marvel, I wonder if it will summarize that the sheer aura of Victor Wembanyama pushed Prop B over the finish line…on its first attempt. CityFest is closing and Mayor Jones stated that if Prop B failed the City of San Antonio would continue working toward a deal to help fund a downtown arena— if the team wants to pursue it.

I wonder how many fence sitters just went to yes after that 125-92 against Dallas, and there are five more games left before the election, including three at the Frost Bank Center…

[jaga185]

^^^ I was kind of thinking the same thing... like if we started winning, would it change the mindset? However, that arena is at least 5 years away. So it still doesn't really matter right now, but hey, many people can't see anything past their noses.

[SpiritofSeguin]

San Antonio City Manager Erik Walsh says proposed land bridge over IH-37 is "on hold" due to looming federal budget cuts - Texas Public Radio

So much for “reconnecting the East Side to downtown”…even though it was never going to in the first place. The East Side and downtown are separated by train tracks and the parking lots for Alamodome, not the freeway.

[bosshaa5]

Originally Posted by SpiritofSeguin

San Antonio City Manager Erik Walsh says proposed land bridge over IH-37 is "on hold" due to looming federal budget cuts - Texas Public Radio

So much for “reconnecting the East Side to downtown”…even though it was never going to in the first place. The East Side and downtown are separated by train tracks and the parking lots for Alamodome, not the freeway.

"in addition to* the freeway"....

[maxus]

Originally Posted by SpiritofSeguin

San Antonio City Manager Erik Walsh says proposed land bridge over IH-37 is "on hold" due to looming federal budget cuts - Texas Public Radio

So much for “reconnecting the East Side to downtown”…even though it was never going to in the first place. The East Side and downtown are separated by train tracks and the parking lots for Alamodome, not the freeway.

Hold that, please. The freeway is the divider.

[jkill34]

Is there any early polling news?

[sirkingwilliam]

Originally Posted by jkill34

Is there any early polling news?

What do you mean?

Early voting ended today.

[SpiritofSeguin]

Originally Posted by jkill34

Is there any early polling news?

This is from a San Antonio Report email on October 29th, early vote totals.



And as recent as today, the Bexar County Elections Administrator said early voting ended with 143k ballots. "We've been comparing our numbers to 2023, and we surpassed the entire early voting period over the weekend."

That is either extremely bad or extremely good for the prospects of Project Marvel. The Spurs are winning today but food stamps didn't pay out today either...and they say elections are decided by the issues most obvious in the now then seven years from now...but the Spurs winning can also validate Prop B in building for the future...it will be a very interesting election.

[jkill34]

Originally Posted by SpiritofSeguin

This is from a San Antonio Report email on October 29th, early vote totals.



And as recent as today, the Bexar County Elections Administrator said early voting ended with 143k ballots. "We've been comparing our numbers to 2023, and we surpassed the entire early voting period over the weekend."

That is either extremely bad or extremely good for the prospects of Project Marvel. The Spurs are winning today but food stamps didn't pay out today either...and they say elections are decided by the issues most obvious in the now then seven years from now...but the Spurs winning can also validate Prop B in building for the future...it will be a very interesting election.

Thank you, that is real good info.

[SAguy]

I hope prop A & B pass.
🙏

[sirkingwilliam]

Both passed. Lfg!

[SpiritofSeguin]

Prop A (Rodeo District):

For - 55.91% - 137,804
Against - 44.09% - 108,67
Total - 246,475

Prop B (Downtown Arena):

For - 52.14% - 128,642
Against - 47.86% - 118,068
Total - 246,710

About 19 percent voter turnout, up from 9 percent in the May 2025 mayoral race which had 116,483 ballots. I was going to say this was one of the closest elections in modern San Antonio history, but Henry Cisneros mentions in this Alamodome article, “When we started the campaign, the dome was opposed by 70% of the people and supported by 30%. On election night, it passed by 51% with 49% opposed.”

[JACKinBeantown]

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[MolcaJete]

SA has a chance to get this right now having the arena downtown. I was baffled by how much people were misinformed ("this will be the 4th [or 5th] arena built for the Spurs", thinking we're voting for all of PM, Alamodome a financial loss, etc). Prop A was what tilted it for me, personally. There is a much bigger national problem with sports leagues wanting new arenas/stadiums without real plans for the abandoned venue. You don't get another one 30 years from now.

On a simpler note, I hope it looks cool

[texastarkus]

So what happens when an NFL team wants to re-locate here or the NFL starts putting out feelers for an expansion and all we have is an outdated Alamo dome? Do we go back to the citizens hat in hand asking for more? What about MLB? Ya know Jerry Jones will use any argument he can to keep Texas a two NFL team state. Can we fund a stadium for major league baseball or pro football on top of building a billion dollar plus basketball arena or did we just shoot ourselves in the foot with this one?

[bgdw]

Originally Posted by texastarkus

So what happens when an NFL team wants to re-locate here or the NFL starts putting out feelers for an expansion and all we have is an outdated Alamo dome? Do we go back to the citizens hat in hand asking for more? What about MLB? Ya know Jerry Jones will use any argument he can to keep Texas a two NFL team state. Can we fund a stadium for major league baseball or pro football on top of building a billion dollar plus basketball arena or did we just shoot ourselves in the foot with this one?

You think we're getting an NFL or MLB team in the foreseeable future?...yea no

[JACKinBeantown]

Originally Posted by texastarkus

So what happens when an NFL team wants to re-locate here or the NFL starts putting out feelers for an expansion and all we have is an outdated Alamo dome? Do we go back to the citizens hat in hand asking for more? What about MLB? Ya know Jerry Jones will use any argument he can to keep Texas a two NFL team state. Can we fund a stadium for major league baseball or pro football on top of building a billion dollar plus basketball arena or did we just shoot ourselves in the foot with this one?

Just so I understand, you're complaining about county residents voting in favor of a small increase in taxes that tourists will pay for hotels and rental cars to support an arena that will be owned by the city and funded in large part by the Spurs, who will also pay rent to use it, and spend a huge sum on top of that for revitalization efforts, and have been an important economic and civic partner to the city for 52 years, and have the most famous international sports star in the world adding millions of dollars in free publicity to the city of San Antonio? On top of that, the Spurs moving from the Frost Center will allow the rodeo to use it year-round, which will be a huge boon to them and the city, and having the Spurs play downtown is a tried-and-true method to bring people downtown in almost the exact same location as they played before and had a much better fan experience spending time downtown instead of in a sprawling, ugly, somewhat dangerous parking lot after the game. Is that what you're complaining about? Please help me understand.

[sirkingwilliam]

Originally Posted by texastarkus

So what happens when an NFL team wants to re-locate here or the NFL starts putting out feelers for an expansion and all we have is an outdated Alamo dome? Do we go back to the citizens hat in hand asking for more? What about MLB? Ya know Jerry Jones will use any argument he can to keep Texas a two NFL team state. Can we fund a stadium for major league baseball or pro football on top of building a billion dollar plus basketball arena or did we just shoot ourselves in the foot with this one?

Huh?

[SpiritofSeguin]

Originally Posted by texastarkus

So what happens when an NFL team wants to re-locate here or the NFL starts putting out feelers for an expansion and all we have is an outdated Alamodome?

In the year 2090? I guess we will cross that bridge when we get there.