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Old Posted Oct 31, 2025, 10:04 PM
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I believe Manitoba and Nova Scotia are the only provinces which still formally use the term "trunk highway" and each uses the term differently. It's the complete opposite in Nova Scotia vs. Manitoba. Nova Scotia's arterial highways are signed as 100-series. The designation is applied to highways that are either a fully divided freeway or Super-2. The designation is also applied to sections of uncontrolled access highways which are deemed strategically important and are planned to be upgraded in the future to freeway. Trunk routes are secondary highways and there's a third classification called "Collector" highways.
It’s a common term in railways (“Grand Trunk”) and highways - these roads are the “trunks” and the local roads that feed into them are the “branches”. It is a reference to the parts of a tree. Nova Scotia layered the 100-series highways over top of their trunk-collector system but didn’t stop calling the previous main routes “trunks” because to a certain extent they still are.
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Ok - thanks for the info folks. In my experience it’s only in Manitoba where I hear the term Trunk Highway commonly used.
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Ok - thanks for the info folks. In my experience it’s only in Manitoba where I hear the term Trunk Highway commonly used.
One of the unfortunate things about this designation is that, over time, some people have begun to refer to them as "provincial truck highways" and that error has even begun to appear in online maps.

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This could also simply be an OCR error.
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Old Posted Nov 11, 2025, 5:21 PM
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https://steinbachonline.com/articles/con...0-intersection-expected-to-begin-in-2026

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AnthonyK's drawing should be sent in because I think this design would be the best for St Anne. It wouldn't require a U-turn lane, and it would also prevent rat running for local residents in St Anne. And 210 East of Highway 12 turns into town anyways, so I see no need to have a full Intersection there.
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https://steinbachonline.com/articles/con...0-intersection-expected-to-begin-in-2026

https://stroadz.glide.page/dl/d0a5f4/s/c0a8e8/r/FRr4eGdUxala96hZ8n9A

AnthonyK's drawing should be sent in because I think this design would be the best for St Anne. It wouldn't require a U-turn lane, and it would also prevent rat running for local residents in St Anne. And 210 East of Highway 12 turns into town anyways, so I see no need to have a full Intersection there.
Only good option there is a roundabout. Every other option will lead to more problems from vehicles making u-turns south of 210. Honestly, having travelled though that intersection many times, I still can't understand why it's such a hazardous intersection.
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Old Posted Nov 11, 2025, 9:26 PM
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Only good option there is a roundabout. Every other option will lead to more problems from vehicles making u-turns south of 210. Honestly, having travelled though that intersection many times, I still can't understand why it's such a hazardous intersection.
I think most of the problems are with the Skewed Intersection Angle and the narrow median. Personally the best out of what they presented would be the closed median because those coming from NB 12 wishing to go onto WB 210 could loop around the cloverleaf. Yes, it would require having to use a back road to detour, but it's pretty much the safest.

The roundabout could work, but it's probably not the best for a 4-lane route with the AADT volumes on Highway 12, especially with logistics traffic piled into that. Maybe a turbo roundabout could help?

Traffic lights would be the cheapest and easiest, but they're against it because accidents still can occur. But the truth is that no design is flawless and anything will work better than nothing.

Maybe even simply straightening the Intersection and making a wider median could help. OR make it signalized with Positive Offset Turning Lanes identical to the Intersection of North Gate Drive in Steinbach.
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https://www.gov.mb.ca/mti/projects.html

CentrePort Provincial Highway Network Functional Design Study

To support continued development in the CentrePort area, Manitoba Transportation and Infrastructure is planning the development of a Provincial roadway network in Manitoba’s Inland Port Special Planning Area that includes:

1. A new highway connection from Provincial Trunk Highway (PTH) 190, otherwise known as Centreport Canada Way (CCW) near the intersection of Klimpke Road and Park Royale Way to the future terminus of Chief Peguis Trail at Brookside Boulevard. Throughout this document, this new highway connection will be referred to as “New Highway”.

2. An extension of PTH 6 from PTH 101 into the Inland Port Special Planning Area.

3. A realignment of Provincial Road (PR) 221 between PTH 101 and West of PTH 190

4. A conceptual alignment for a municipal roadway between PR 221 and the City of Winnipeg limits at Selkirk Avenue.

The functional design study is expected to take approximately one and a half years to complete, and results from the completed study will support the development of a detailed design and construction of the preferred option. The study area includes the CentrePort lands within the RM of Rosser, bounded by PTH 101, Route 90, Selkirk Ave., and the Winnipeg Richardson International Airport.

Study Area (PDF)

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I'm happy to see this one come along. There have been proposals to develop the lands in and around the 190/inskter area which would completely negate any future highway extensions.
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I'm happy to see this one come along. There have been proposals to develop the lands in and around the 190/inskter area which would completely negate any future highway extensions.
Thanks for sharing this Bomber.

I am glad to see CPT west will hook up to CCW. I believe that was the plan when CCW was built in 2012 with that extra bend north in the roadway, but you never know.

I think a grade separation is essential at oak point hwy and the connection of CPTwest/CCW. Being where 2 municipalities border, this needs coordination.

Also happy to see access to Hwy 6 plans to enter into centre port. Make hwy 6/ pth101 the ‘gateway to the north’ or ‘gateway to Hudson’s Bay’ once hwy 6 is completed to the port of Churchill plus (make it happen)

I was unaware of plans to study this area for highways. Glad to see it, add it to the pile of highway work. There is no shortage to do.
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From today's WFP
By: Alex Lambert
Posted: 6:00 AM CST Tuesday, Nov. 18, 2025

"BRANDON — Today’s provincial throne speech will announce the construction of an overpass at an intersection near Carberry, the site of a bus crash that killed 17 seniors two years ago, the Brandon Sun has learned."



I am so torn on this. Firstly I am a huge supporter of having grade separated interchanges at all intersections of Hwy 1 and Hwy 75, so this is a win. The way it came about is absurd though. I get that the accident a few years ago was a massive tragedy, but that shouldn't dictate where infrastructure should be built.

This map shows there are much more deserving intersections that should be getting grade separations than this one.

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Yeah from a cost-benefit perspective, the most efficient use of scare tax dollars is prioritizing investment in safety improvements at the highest-risk intersections, then moving down the chain to the lowest-risk intersections over time, which will maximize the amount of lives saved and damage prevented.

Obviously as we all know, politics can often supersede the technocratic planning processes governments tend to use, as these processes tend to gloss over things like emotion and vocalization on social media (as they should).

All it would take is for one bad accident to happen at 101/15 or 1/207 and suddenly grade separations at those intersections take over the conversation, and naturally may lead to them also jumping the queue.

I think we need to acknowledge that Kinew is very good at running "big tent" politics, as he's out there trying to make it appear as if everyone's voice and opinion matters, even if they are from rural/conservative communities.

Hardline NDP-ers would probably ignore this intersection or ram through the r-cut solution because they know they have nothing to gain by appeasing steadfast conservative communities, and hardline PC-ers would have promised the solution preferred by this community months ago because if it means delaying a project around Winnipeg, that doesn't matter much to them anyways.

Like it or not, this is democracy at work.
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Yeah from a cost-benefit perspective, the most efficient use of scare tax dollars is prioritizing investment in safety improvements at the highest-risk intersections, then moving down the chain to the lowest-risk intersections over time, which will maximize the amount of lives saved and damage prevented.

Obviously as we all know, politics can often supersede the technocratic planning processes governments tend to use, as these processes tend to gloss over things like emotion and vocalization on social media (as they should).

All it would take is for one bad accident to happen at 101/15 or 1/207 and suddenly grade separations at those intersections take over the conversation, and naturally may lead to them also jumping the queue.

I think we need to acknowledge that Kinew is very good at running "big tent" politics, as he's out there trying to make it appear as if everyone's voice and opinion matters, even if they are from rural/conservative communities.

Hardline NDP-ers would probably ignore this intersection or ram through the r-cut solution because they know they have nothing to gain by appeasing steadfast conservative communities, and hardline PC-ers would have promised the solution preferred by this community months ago because if it means delaying a project around Winnipeg, that doesn't matter much to them anyways.

Like it or not, this is democracy at work.
I have to agree. Technocratically (is that a word?) speaking this is a bad decision but we have an elected government for a reason.I just hope they have got a more reasonable cost estimate on the overpass than the initial figures that were being thrown around.
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It should cost $50m maximum in todays dollars.
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From today's throne speech text.

"Next year we will also start work on twinning Highway 1 from the Ontario border to West Hawk Lake and start the design phase of the Carberry overpass at the intersection of Highway 1 & 5."
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I agree that multiple interesections should get upgrades first instead of Carberry. But I am least glad that they'd build an Interchange there instead of a band-aid solution that will have to get ripped up again to build an Interchange. But thankfully a Carberry Interchange is cheap and easy as there isn't much land expropriation needed.
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From today's WFP
By: Alex Lambert
Posted: 6:00 AM CST Tuesday, Nov. 18, 2025

"BRANDON — Today’s provincial throne speech will announce the construction of an overpass at an intersection near Carberry, the site of a bus crash that killed 17 seniors two years ago, the Brandon Sun has learned."



I am so torn on this. Firstly I am a huge supporter of having grade separated interchanges at all intersections of Hwy 1 and Hwy 75, so this is a win. The way it came about is absurd though. I get that the accident a few years ago was a massive tragedy, but that shouldn't dictate where infrastructure should be built.

This map shows there are much more deserving intersections that should be getting grade separations than this one.

Looking at this diagram, I am a little disappointed myself that they're putting an Interchange at McGillvary instead of St Annes Road. St Annes is a pretty simple design that could be built easily. And since it's near the CP US Line, it would make even more sense.

McGillvary? Yes, it's needed but they're opting for a realignment of both Highways and a Diamond Interchange instead of a Parclo.

https://stroadz.glide.page/dl/d0a5f4/s/c0a8e8/r/YG3mlyHeZcEREk5U8w9F

This should be done there. It's simple to design, and it actually would help the businesses in Oak Bluff. The realignment would just bypass the services and be further off the Highway instead of right there.
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https://www.gov.mb.ca/mti/projects.html

CentrePort Provincial Highway Network Functional Design Study

To support continued development in the CentrePort area, Manitoba Transportation and Infrastructure is planning the development of a Provincial roadway network in Manitoba’s Inland Port Special Planning Area that includes:

1. A new highway connection from Provincial Trunk Highway (PTH) 190, otherwise known as Centreport Canada Way (CCW) near the intersection of Klimpke Road and Park Royale Way to the future terminus of Chief Peguis Trail at Brookside Boulevard. Throughout this document, this new highway connection will be referred to as “New Highway”.

2. An extension of PTH 6 from PTH 101 into the Inland Port Special Planning Area.

3. A realignment of Provincial Road (PR) 221 between PTH 101 and West of PTH 190

4. A conceptual alignment for a municipal roadway between PR 221 and the City of Winnipeg limits at Selkirk Avenue.

The functional design study is expected to take approximately one and a half years to complete, and results from the completed study will support the development of a detailed design and construction of the preferred option. The study area includes the CentrePort lands within the RM of Rosser, bounded by PTH 101, Route 90, Selkirk Ave., and the Winnipeg Richardson International Airport.

Study Area (PDF)

Hopefully after this Centreport Canada Way extended near St Francois could be built. Since there's now a Costco in Headingley, I have a feeling that there will be lots of development going on making Portage Ave even more of a choke point than it already is.

At least building a road to connect CCW and CPT would complete part of the Inner Ring Road. And the Highway 6 extension could start off as a 2 lane Highway to the Perimeter Highway. Next it would be great for the city to build the St Matthews or Silver Ave connector with Sturgeon Road to better connect Moray Street to Centreport Canada.
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I agree the PTH 3 design and all the service roads seems a little overkill. The plan is to twin PTH 3 though, so if they keep the alignment running through Oak Bluff they would end up having to eventually expropriate and demo most of the businesses fronting the highway. Jogging the highway south of town makes more sense in the long run.

On the topic at hand...the interchange at PTH 5 is purely retail politics. Any Perimeter interchange, PTH 1 & PTH 16, PTH 1 and Deacons, Headingley and St. Norbert bypasses and interchanges would all make way, way more sense.
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From today's throne speech text.

"Next year we will also start work on twinning Highway 1 from the Ontario border to West Hawk Lake and start the design phase of the Carberry overpass at the intersection of Highway 1 & 5."
I'm curious to know "start work on" means specifically.

There's supposed to be an RFP for prelim design coming, IIRC. not sure what the status of that is. But if that's what's being referred to, design work already started. There likely is no construction work coming this year on it either.

So it's basically at the same stage as Carberry design phase. Come on Wab give specifics!
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