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Old Posted Oct 10, 2025, 7:40 PM
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Kitsch typically refers to low quality vulgarity designed to appeal to low brow tastes. There's nothing kitschy about a stone wall if properly executed. That wall looks passable as an original wall from a church that's been restored. The issue is that it's next to a soul less subdivision filled with cookie cutter McHouses. Cheap windows, vinyl siding, but then stone columns out front to give the illusion of quality and refinement? Doubt it's even real stone. Probably a one inch thick tile. It's the houses that are kitschy —. That highway/stroad doesn't help either.
I’ve never quite understood the opinion of a “soulless subdivision filled with cookie cutter house”. I mean that’s all these people can afford, and I bet many who live in those “soullless subdivisions” can barely afford to get by. Obviously it can’t be expected for everyone to have a custom home, with extra yard space. What would it take to change your opinion or idea that would move away from you opinion of “kitschy —” type of houses?…. That said, I like the feature of stone walls or other public art features, that helps enhance the general vibe of the neighborhoods.
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Old Posted Oct 10, 2025, 8:10 PM
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Some Edmonton highrise condos have million dollar plus views for affordable pricing. Unsure of width, but this balcony looks to be approximately 6 metres/19.5ft long
Judging by the floorplan measurements, anyway: https://cdn.realtor.ca/listing/TS638949373747030000/reb10/highres/3/E4460303_44.jpg




Asking $270,000
https://www.realtor.ca/real-estate/28937676/1902-10135-saskatchewan-dr-nw-edmonton-strathcona

Coldrsx/Edmontonian forumers, are these maintenance fees high or is it reasonable?
Are you guys familiar with this building, Cranleigh Towers?
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Old Posted Oct 10, 2025, 8:52 PM
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I’ve never quite understood the opinion of a “soulless subdivision filled with cookie cutter house”. I mean that’s all these people can afford, and I bet many who live in those “soullless subdivisions” can barely afford to get by. Obviously it can’t be expected for everyone to have a custom home, with extra yard space. What would it take to change your opinion or idea that would move away from you opinion of “kitschy —” type of houses?…. That said, I like the feature of stone walls or other public art features, that helps enhance the general vibe of the neighborhoods.
Generally, anytime you have a large scale development it's going to seem souless (I use soul and character interchangeably) to people because the soul comes in the interaction with time and place. With these type of developments, the land is bulldozed and flattened rather than buildings being nestled against hills and slopes, beside streams, near old trees, etc. And it isn't just that the houses all have the same architectural style because lots of soulful places have that. But it's also that the landscaping, which is typically a lot of boring turf grass, is also the same. In an area with soul, there will be lots of variation in the landscape. You'll have some quirky eccentric person with a yard smothered in tall grass, shrubs or wild flowers, another with an old bathtub serving as a giant pot, one with sculptures, etc. For me, it's very difficult for an area where yards are mostly turf grass to have any sense of character. Turf grass is not context. It's a placeholder for where context would be if an area has character.

And the houses will often have a patina of time. Some in great shape and others a bit weathered and run down, some that have been renovated or repaired while others looking original. There will be additions, garages, gazebos, and so forth. If a development is designed in a way that isn't specific to it's location and could be basically any subdivision across the country, and if people haven't had time (or not allowed by HOAs) to individualize the house and property, then the nabe will lack character and soul. But I think the biggest factor is the landscaping. You could have a whole area of new, identical houses and if they're smothered in lush trees, shrubbery and other plants, it would be tough for it to look souless. Well, unless all the plants were highly manicured.

But as far as affordability, perhaps (not sure) souless nabes are a bit cheaper during initial build out since the whole process is so formulaic. But that doesn't make them any less souless. Those are separate topics. And it's also possible that the overall, lifecycle cost of character-filled areas is lower since there's more environmental services performed by natural process
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Old Posted Oct 10, 2025, 9:01 PM
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I know the building. Classic 70s build with low amounts of reinvestment. STAY AWAY

$0.70/foot is high for fees, but not unusual given the age; hence the lower price to reflect that.

I'd stay away from owning product/buildings of this age, but would rent there maybe, but plenty of better options.
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Old Posted Oct 10, 2025, 9:49 PM
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I know the building. Classic 70s build with low amounts of reinvestment. STAY AWAY

$0.70/foot is high for fees, but not unusual given the age; hence the lower price to reflect that.

I'd stay away from owning product/buildings of this age, but would rent there maybe, but plenty of better options.
Thanks for the info. I'm not in the market heheh I'm just enamoured with the spectacular views and reasonable prices of Edmonton condos.
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Old Posted Oct 10, 2025, 10:19 PM
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They are a bargin here.
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Old Posted Oct 11, 2025, 3:03 AM
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Nice. Looks fairly recent as well.
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Old Posted Oct 11, 2025, 3:08 AM
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Old Posted Oct 11, 2025, 3:25 AM
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Old Posted Oct 11, 2025, 6:58 PM
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Canadian cities keep going vertical
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Old Posted Oct 11, 2025, 7:28 PM
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Metrotown's skyline is crazy impressive for a suburb.
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Old Posted Oct 12, 2025, 3:59 PM
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Canadian cities keep going vertical
Yep, lots of vertical growth in the big 6 metros, and also lots in Hamilton, KW and Halifax.
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Old Posted Oct 12, 2025, 4:44 PM
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A couple of skyline photos of Kelowna from a few days ago.





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Old Posted Oct 12, 2025, 10:38 PM
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Amazing shots of a growing city.
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Old Posted Oct 13, 2025, 2:52 PM
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^ Looks great!
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Old Posted Oct 13, 2025, 11:44 PM
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Fantastic Montreal shots here
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Old Posted Oct 13, 2025, 11:52 PM
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Great shot! Still my favorite suburban skyline in Canada. It actually has some layering (starting with towers from the 60s) and organic form. Also being perched on the crest of a hill with decent greenery surrounding it helps a lot too.
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Old Posted Oct 14, 2025, 12:58 PM
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Does Edmonton have any "ruins"?

I really hate this kitchy —, but people eat it up for some reason.
In the case of that Ottawa shot, those are real ruins... sort of. The Hintonburg Pump House was built in 1899 and burned down in 1989. They fenced it off and left it to deteriorate for 35 years. The City decided last summer to clean up the site, secure the ruins and open up the space to the public.

Seems the stone walls were restored in situ, while the brick is modern. It is mostly original.

Here's that skyline shot again before (2015) and after (couple weeks ago).



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