Stadiums & Arenas of Canada, Part 3

[Calgarian]

I'm trolling because I posted an article where the CFL commissioner says that 7 of 9 teams aren't profitable? You're kind of special aren't you.

[Hackslack]

Originally Posted by Calgarian

I'm trolling because I posted an article where the CFL commissioner says that 7 of 9 teams aren't profitable? You're kind of special aren't you.

Wow, offensive, thats kind of a douche reply

16 of 29 MLS teams operate at a loss (easy google search if you’re willing to be a big boy)… that league hanging on by a thread too?

[Calgarian]

You two are incorrigible.

MLS isn't the strongest league, but it's clearly stronger than the CFL. Why is this even an argument? Again, there are individual teams worth more than the entire CFL, is that confusing to you? did you spend too much time licking windows in math class to pay attention to the numbers?

[Hackslack]

Originally Posted by Calgarian

You two are incorrigible.

MLS isn't the strongest league, but it's clearly stronger than the CFL. Why is this even an argument? Again, there are individual teams worth more than the entire CFL, is that confusing to you? did you spend too much time licking windows in math class to pay attention to the numbers?

I wasn’t comparing the two leagues, you talked up about how valuable the MLS is, then proceed to say the CFL is hanging on by a thread because 7 of 9 teams operate at a loss. Yet valuations of teams are upwards of $50 million. But that wasn’t considered for the MLS when the numbers show that over half their teams operate at a loss. I’m not disputing the MLS is almost infinitely more valuable than the CFL, I just take offense to such moronic comments about the health of the CFL.

Seems you have such a sense of entitlement, like you have an extremely low self esteem, having to resort to slinging insults.

lol… I practice engineering, clearly excelling at mathematics… your parents obviously skipped the step of instilling at least a minimal sense of respect to others. Failed parenting

[elly63]

Originally Posted by Calgarian

I'm trolling because I posted an article where the CFL commissioner says that 7 of 9 teams aren't profitable? You're kind of special aren't you.

You've been posting misinformation and trolling all along until you finally posted one article from a creditable source. The only people who troll CFL are NFL and TFC fans, which are you because I've never run into a generic MLS fan.

[Hackslack]

Originally Posted by elly63

You've been posting misinformation and trolling all along until you finally posted one article from a creditable source. The only people who troll CFL are NFL and TFC fans, which are you because I've never run into a generic MLS fan.

I wouldn’t even say true NFL fans troll the CFL so much, rather it’s the NFL fantasy football “fans” that only watch the NFL if their players are playing.

[Calgarian]

What misinformation have I even posted? I said the stadium in Montreal was a waste of money (which it absolutely is), that it has neither the CFL or MLS as a tenant (which it doesn't) that the MLS is a higher profile league than the CFL (which it is) and that the CFL is struggling financially (which it is). You two just don't like what I have to say, label me a troll and argue for the sake of arguing. This is absolutely hilarious!

Also, I actually like the CFL, that doesn't mean I ignore the reality that is their financial struggles lol.

[elly63]

Originally Posted by Hackslack

I wouldn’t even say true NFL fans troll the CFL so much, rather it’s the NFL fantasy football “fans” that only watch the NFL if their players are playing.

True, a football fan is a football fan who will enjoy all levels

[Hackslack]

Originally Posted by Calgarian

What misinformation have I even posted? I said the stadium in Montreal was a waste of money (which it absolutely is), that it has neither the CFL or MLS as a tenant (which it doesn't) that the MLS is a higher profile league than the CFL (which it is) and that the CFL is struggling financially (which it is). You two just don't like what I have to say, label me a troll and argue for the sake of arguing. This is absolutely hilarious!

Also, I actually like the CFL, that doesn't mean I ignore the reality that is their financial struggles lol.

Sorry, I didn’t like how you stated the CFL is hanging on by a thread, which if you equate to financial struggles, then the CfL has been hanging on by a thread most of its existence.

Everything else you posted I don’t disagree with, of course the big owe is a waste of money, of course the MLS has higher profile, of course most teams in CFL operate at a loss considered a struggling financially (as does the majority of MLS teams), it’s the mudslingling that I find intolerable that is why in my opinion you are a troll. If you left out the comments like “youre kind of special aren’t you”, I wouldn’t have an issue with you.

[elly63]

Originally Posted by Calgarian

What misinformation have I even posted? I said the stadium in Montreal was a waste of money (which it absolutely is), that it has neither the CFL or MLS as a tenant (which it doesn't) that the MLS is a higher profile league than the CFL (which it is) and that the CFL is struggling financially (which it is). You two just don't like what I have to say, label me a troll and argue for the sake of arguing. This is absolutely hilarious!

Also, I actually like the CFL, that doesn't mean I ignore the reality that is their financial struggles lol.

I believe you were proved wrong on the popularity of the Als vs CFM and then you figured you had to move the goalposts.

Argue for the sake of arguing? You felt the need to tell us your useless to the thread opinion of the Olympic stadium, not once but three times. If that isn't trolling I don't know what is. And what's with the constant LOL thing, after the disinformation you've posted you're hardly in the position to be condescending. The Olympic Stadium, a landmark and also tourist attraction is moving forward and will be able to get more dates when it's finished. Live with it.

[logan5]

Having only 20% of your CFL teams being profitable is a lot different than having 45% of MLS teams being profitable, but more importantly, MLS is trending upwards. Ten years ago, MLS as a whole, was losing money. Today the league is profitable, with team valuations skyrocketing, averaging 700 million. That rise in value indicates that the sports industry has huge confidence in the league.

Contrast that to the CFL where team values have stagnated or dropped steadily for many years now. The CFL commissioner has admitted that this direction the league continues to go in is not sustainable, as in the league is headed to folding.

The rule changes are drastic, but the CFL is clearly desperate and this is really its last gasps to survive.

I'll admit that I am not a CFL fan, and I would love to have an NFL team in Vancouver, so if the CFL were to die...

BC Place meets NFL standards so there is a suitable venue, and I know people will say the money isn't there, but with an ownership group, the money is there.

The NFL would certainly want to tap a new NFL crazy market of 40 million people.

[Calgarian]

Originally Posted by Hackslack

Sorry, I didn’t like how you stated the CFL is hanging on by a thread, which if you equate to financial struggles, then the CfL has been hanging on by a thread most of its existence.

Everything else you posted I don’t disagree with, of course the big owe is a waste of money, of course the MLS has higher profile, of course most teams in CFL operate at a loss considered a struggling financially (as does the majority of MLS teams), it’s the mudslingling that I find intolerable that is why in my opinion you are a troll. If you left out the comments like “youre kind of special aren’t you”, I wouldn’t have an issue with you.

Someone calls me a troll because they don't like my post, I'll call them special. Seems pretty straightforward. Respect begets respect, disrespect begets disrespect, especially on the internet!

Originally Posted by elly63

I believe you were proved wrong on the popularity of the Als vs CFM and then you figured you had to move the goalposts.

Argue for the sake of arguing? You felt the need to tell us your useless to the thread opinion of the Olympic stadium, not once but three times. If that isn't trolling I don't know what is. And what's with the constant LOL thing, after the disinformation you've posted you're hardly in the position to be condescending. The Olympic Stadium, a landmark and also tourist attraction is moving forward and will be able to get more dates when it's finished. Live with it.

The Big Owe is a waste of money, I've said it far more than 3 times, as have many others. And a tourist attraction? I've never heard of anyone going to Montreal to see that stadium, nor have I seen it in any pictures people post of the city. Lol means I find if funny, if you find it condescending, then that's up to you. LOL!

Anyway, I'm done with this. You can keep arguing all you want, I'm right, you're wrong, accept it and move on. LOL!

[Hackslack]

Originally Posted by logan5

Having only 20% of your CFL teams being profitable is a lot different than having 45% of MLS teams being profitable, but more importantly, MLS is trending upwards. Ten years ago, MLS as a whole, was losing money. Today the league is profitable, with team valuations skyrocketing, averaging 700 million. That rise in value indicates that the sports industry has huge confidence in the league.

Contrast that to the CFL where team values have stagnated or dropped steadily for many years now. The CFL commissioner has admitted that this direction the league continues to go in is not sustainable, as in the league is headed to folding.

The rule changes are drastic, but the CFL is clearly desperate and this is really its last gasps to survive.

I'll admit that I am not a CFL fan, and I would love to have an NFL team in Vancouver, so if the CFL were to die...

BC Place meets NFL standards so there is a suitable venue, and I know people will say the money isn't there, but with an ownership group, the money is there.

The NFL would certainly want to tap a new NFL crazy market of 40 million people.

Wait, so the MLS was in a position of almost folding, only 10 years ago?

Hamilton was valued at $50 million in 2022, surely Winnipeg and Saskatchewan are more, and who knows what the new BC owner paid and Esks paid. Are you saying that they were valued even more than $50 million it the not too distant past? I wouldn’t think so… nothing compared to a MLS team, but it’s not a big 4 or big 5 league, so comparing makes no sense.

The NFL already has Canada market tapped. It already draws massive viewership numbers, more than the CFL, they don’t need a team in Canada to get the market, cause they already have the market. NFL is tv revenue driven, and they already get the viewers.

[elly63]

Originally Posted by logan5

The rule changes are drastic, but the CFL is clearly desperate and this is really its last gasps to survive.

Totally untrue, but at least you admit your bias.

Also how do these rule changes add revenue. Nobody has proven that point yet. Many of the fantasy pool NFL "fans" hate the CFL primarily because they are not knowledgeable about the level of the play. So if the rule changes are meant to attract these morons it will be futile.

We all know the Argos lose money, the amount of money they lose on the Argos amounts to the salary of one NBA player in other words a drop in the bucket to the corporation.

So two questions, if there isn't value in the CFL ie for MLSE and TSN why do they continue to be involved and name a team that is in actual financial peril and not able to pay the bills. You can't because there isn't one.

[elly63]

Originally Posted by Calgarian

And a tourist attraction? I've never heard of anyone going to Montreal to see that stadium, nor have I seen it in any pictures people post of the city.

Now you're just getting ridiculous. Get something shipped on Intelcom, they show an animation of a truck going across Canada. To depict Toronto they have the CN Tower and the Skydome and in Montreal it's the cross on Mont Royal and the Olympic Stadium. Here's your postcard

[Hackslack]

Originally Posted by Calgarian

Someone calls me a troll because they don't like my post, I'll call them special. Seems pretty straightforward. Respect begets respect, disrespect begets disrespect, especially on the internet!

lol I asked you a couple questions, when you stated the league is hanging on by a thread, before you posted and labeled me “special”, truly shows how actually soft you are. So soft…

See ya, softy!

[Calgarian]

Originally Posted by Hackslack

lol I asked you a couple questions, when you stated the league is hanging on by a thread, before you posted and labeled me “special”, truly shows how actually soft you are. So soft…

See ya, softy!

I called Elly special (which is quite clearly the case), not you.

[elly63]

Originally Posted by Calgarian

I called Elly special (which is quite clearly the case), not you.

But you're still a softie LOL

[Dalreg]

Time for mods to do some cleaning....

[EpicPonyTime]

Originally Posted by logan5

BC Place meets NFL standards so there is a suitable venue, and I know people will say the money isn't there, but with an ownership group, the money is there.

There’s likely a huge distinction between “meets NFL standards” and “is suitable for a permanent team”. BC Place would be the smallest stadium in the NFL by 8K, likely more once the Bears figure out their move.