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Old Posted Sep 20, 2025, 12:03 PM
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There's an increasing awareness that natural light is an important part of the healing and recovery process, in fact, many old hospitals had solariums where patients would spend time absorbing sunlight. The design of this hospital looks to provide little to no natural light and as others have mentioned, the bunker style also doesn't inspire wellness or healing.
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Yeah the "H" style with patient rooms along the exposed areas is typical for hospitals now. The new Children's tower had a similar outline.

With respect to that Nexus building, is there no provision in the contract to sue Massimo when they walked away like that? Gotta be more to the story.

That building will have no trouble with 100% occupancy after the hospital opens.
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Yeah the "H" style with patient rooms along the exposed areas is typical for hospitals now. The new Children's tower had a similar outline.

With respect to that Nexus building, is there no provision in the contract to sue Massimo when they walked away like that? Gotta be more to the story.

That building will have no trouble with 100% occupancy after the hospital opens.
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The decision by Masimo to back out of buying Nexus did not directly result in the project being placed under receivership, but it was a significant contributing factor. Although it was not announced until late-January, Lei tells STOREYS that Masimo backed out of the agreement on December 31, 2024. However, Masimo and SHAPE reached an agreement that would see Masimo provide $3.6 million in compensation as a settlement, on top of the $21 million deposit paid in 2022 that they were forfeiting.
https://storeys.com/keltic-development-nexus-receivership-ceo-interview/
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There's an increasing awareness that natural light is an important part of the healing and recovery process, in fact, many old hospitals had solariums where patients would spend time absorbing sunlight. The design of this hospital looks to provide little to no natural light and as others have mentioned, the bunker style also doesn't inspire wellness or healing.
Having private inpatient rooms with their own washroom, windows etc. will probably do more for patient recovery and helping with their time at the hospital.

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1465965924848683

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Having private inpatient rooms with their own washroom, windows etc. is more important than whatever you think about the design of the hospital or lack of a solarium.

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1465965924848683
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A $24.6M break fee is wild for a building this size. Massimo must have really not wanted this expansion.

Given the current H1B visa debacle in the US, it seems like it would still have made sense for them.
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A $24.6M break fee is wild for a building this size. Massimo must have really not wanted this expansion.

Given the current H1B visa debacle in the US, it seems like it would still have made sense for them.
Masimo are still trying to sue Apple, (who seem to think they have found a new way to offer the Apple Watch with a pulse meter that doesn't infringe Masimo's patents).

The decision to pull out of the Vancouver building was in December 2024, which was only a couple of months after Joe Kiani (who founded Masimo in 1989) was kicked off the board by investors following the advice of Politan Capital Management. So Masimo have new leadership, and presumably Canada doesn't feature in their plans.
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Yeah I've been following it a bit, still a huge cheque to stroke especially given the lower cost environment in Candida and the relative ease of importing talent.

Hope someone can fill it soon, but my understanding is that the space is highly specialized and won't be a simple plug and play user.
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Yeah I've been following it a bit, still a huge cheque to stroke especially given the lower cost environment in Candida and the relative ease of importing talent.

Hope someone can fill it soon, but my understanding is that the space is highly specialized and won't be a simple plug and play user.
Before Masimo took it, Keltic were offering space as strata units, and when it became available again earlier this year, before the bankrupcy, that was what they had reverted to. Presumably they were hoping to sell to medical practitioners, the same as the Neelu Bachra Centre on West Broadway did.
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Yeah I've been following it a bit, still a huge cheque to stroke especially given the lower cost environment in Candida and the relative ease of importing talent.

Hope someone can fill it soon, but my understanding is that the space is highly specialized and won't be a simple plug and play user.
Here's details on the receivership

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The order authorises the receiver to stabilise the project, address contractor claims, and borrow up to $35 million on a priority basis to cover interim expenditures. FTI Consulting Canada Inc. is the receiver. Lawson Lundell LLP is counsel to the receiver, DLA Piper Canada LLP for Shape Capital, Bennett Jones LLP for the Keltic entities and principals, Singleton Urquhart Reynolds Vogel LLP for Syncra Construction, and McKechnie & Company, McLean Armstrong, and Sportschuetz & Company for other lien claimants.
https://insolvencyinsider.ca/p/keltic-s-nexus-development-falls-into-receivership

Motions/Court Orders

https://cfcanada.fticonsulting.com/Kelti...exus-development-falls-into-receivership

Page 168 of Shape's filing has the minimum price schedule they want for the units.

https://cfcanada.fticonsulting.com/Kelti...%201%20of%20Raymond%20Ng%20-%20Sworn.pdf

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I told y'all this would be hideous the moment I saw the render. Massive buildings without the budget for beauty should be quiet and boring, like Montreal's CHUM for example... rather than scream "look at me I'm hideous!" I know yesterday was orange shirt day, but slapping that colour onto such a huge building, along with the indigenous basketweave "inspiration" for the cladding, will hopefully put an end to that embarrassing sort of tokenism before it claims the new VAG design as another victim. Why can't they just put literal Haida art or engravings on the walls or something? Our region has some of the best aboriginal art forms in the world and we're tinkering with this 🞵🞵🞵🞵 instead...

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^^ It's okay it's light brown.

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Wake me when it's close to finished. Of course the exterior's going to look like 🞵🞵🞵🞵 when it's a work in progress.
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Fortunately in a few years it will be mostly hidden by the many planned buildings for the campus, we'll likely only have to look directly at this monstrosity for a couple of years following its completion.
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Wasn't that orange supposed to be copper?

I think it's a trend in Vancouver architecture generally.
There must be a generation that has a bias against clean simple modernist design (even a brutalist design like the Pattison Tower at VGH would look better than this) - or it's design by committee with multiple parties trying to 'have a voice' in the final design.
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Old Posted Oct 2, 2025, 5:35 PM
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Wasn't that orange supposed to be copper?

I think it's a trend in Vancouver architecture generally.
There must be a generation that has a bias against clean simple modernist design (even a brutalist design like the Pattison Tower at VGH would look better than this) - or it's design by committee with multiple parties trying to 'have a voice' in the final design.
It was light brown in the panel colours I saw.

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The composition of the facades is enhanced by the use of colour. The
earth and dust from which people are born and return is expressed
predominantly in ochre, copper and clay tones. This range of colour
is used as a “forward welcoming embrace” at key locations such as
the public-facing West Block façade. To breakdown the large building
massing and to contrast with the forward earth tones, dark gray/black
is used to create recessive, shadowed areas of the facades. Areas of
distinction such as the Chapel and the Main Entrance, are highlighted
against the dark gray/black pedestrian-level podium in light gray
masonry.
https://vancouver.ca/files/cov/1002-station-st-appendix-c-1.pdf

But even the "weave" pattern with the variations in the colour of the panels mentioned above seems to have mostly disappeared in the final design with more solid colour blocks.



There's First Nations artwork in some of the sections without paneling with some kind of metal screen that is also brown/orange. I think it was just plain screening originally.



https://www.thenewstpauls.ca/en/media-gallery

Is the CSRC building ugly as well?



https://www.providencehealthcare.org/en/future-sites-projects/clinical-support-research-centre

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Wasn't that orange supposed to be copper?

I think it's a trend in Vancouver architecture generally.
There must be a generation that has a bias against clean simple modernist design (even a brutalist design like the Pattison Tower at VGH would look better than this) - or it's design by committee with multiple parties trying to 'have a voice' in the final design.
It was specified as built - the colour varies with the light. It's a metallic aluminum panel system - on an overcast day it reads as orange, but in sunlight, depending on the angle, it can vary from a pale to a quite dark bronze colour. It's also 3 dimensional - panels are thicker and thinner, but that variation isn't obvious from a distance. Similar (flat) paneling is on a West 6th an industrial/office building in Mount Pleasant.

Brutalist concrete wouldn't perform to contemporary energy code - this is double rain screened and insulated inside and out. It has international architects, (HDR and Stantec) with a lot of experience of building hospital projects. One thing that makes the building much bigger, (but more earthquake proof), is the very tall third floor plant floor, with the black louvres. At this point they appear to have switched the colour from the earlier renders, when they matched a paler panel system. The current appearance certainly enhances the industrial feel, but that may not be how the final building will look (see the render above).
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One thing that makes the building much bigger, (but more earthquake proof), is the very tall third floor plant floor, with the black louvres. At this point they appear to have switched the colour from the earlier renders, when they matched a paler panel system. The current appearance certainly enhances the industrial feel, but that may not be how the final building will look (see the render above).
They louvres at the mechanical floor don't look final, the copper coloured panels with art should still be to come.
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Wasn't that orange supposed to be copper?

I think it's a trend in Vancouver architecture generally.
There must be a generation that has a bias against clean simple modernist design (even a brutalist design like the Pattison Tower at VGH would look better than this) - or it's design by committee with multiple parties trying to 'have a voice' in the final design.
The city wants everything broken up to make it “human scale” and ends up being a cluttered mess
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