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Cool looking design. How do you avoid the greenhouse effect and temperature stratification in a glassed-in centre atrium of this size?
Theres an apartment on university crescent with a larger glass enclosure than this. I assume the surrounding materials (concrete etc) absorb a lot of heat and releases it when the sun is down.
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Apparently my current employer got the electrical contract, not sure if that’s official news yet so I’ll leave it to detectives here but high odds I will be on the ground there in future
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Theres an apartment on university crescent with a larger glass enclosure than this. I assume the surrounding materials (concrete etc) absorb a lot of heat and releases it when the sun is down.
You don't want an inside apartment there there. Humidity builds up enough that it rains inside, and everybody's cooking filters into your apartment.
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^ the difference with that building and the bay is that the homes in the bay won’t open into the atrium.

Drew. You are right. It’s a wood roof above the concrete slab. All removed.
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I call it “the Nooj”

Too many syllables and I’m out
"Abi Road" is far more simpler to say.

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Theres an apartment on university crescent with a larger glass enclosure than this. I assume the surrounding materials (concrete etc) absorb a lot of heat and releases it when the sun is down.
That's the building I was thinking about. Apparently it's atrocious to live there. I was wondering how you avoided turning it into a greenhouse like that building apparently is.
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That's the building I was thinking about. Apparently it's atrocious to live there. I was wondering how you avoided turning it into a greenhouse like that building apparently is.
havac thats installed properly
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Youre talking about Summerland. The intent was to be a pool and greenspace in the atrium. For year round summer climate, hence the name. So yes basicslly a greenhouse. Maybe if it was done now with more modern climate control systems and concepts, it'd be better.
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That's the building I was thinking about. Apparently it's atrocious to live there. I was wondering how you avoided turning it into a greenhouse like that building apparently is.
I heard from a person I worked with back in the early 1980's that when his wife was working for property management group at Summerland they had at least one grow operation there because of the environment.
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cheswick - I guess it is time to ask for a promotion...or sneak into an executive office higher up!

I always appreciate the pictures. Thanks.
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Haven’t been able to infiltrate the CEOs office as of yet, but they’ve added some membrane or something from my view.

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Haven’t been able to infiltrate the CEOs office as of yet, but they’ve added some membrane or something from my view.

Steel decking, gypsum roof board and vapour retarder, next will most likely be tapered insulation, flat insulation, base sheet membrane and a cap sheet membrane.

Any roof top amenities confirmed on this project?
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Looks like there is some walking and sitting areas on the roof.

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50/50 chance I will be working on this project next year, the other 50 being Portage Place. Very stoked!
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My grandparents lived in summer land. Then my sister did. Then my parents did.

The biggest issue is poor HVAC. During winter it was nice with an aldermen’s
Facing the atrium. But in spring it was atrocious. Sweltering conditions and management would say the AC wasn’t on for the season yet. Most people would buy their own portable AC units and vent the hot air into the atrium.
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My sister was checking out an apartment there ages ago. The atrium was stuffy... damp... fogged up glass... meh. I'd opt for an outside-facing suite only.

I remember working at the Bay in the early 90's. I often had to go to the sub-basement for store fixtures. It was fascinating. Tiny offices with people repairing/altering clothes, repackaging merch, fixing stuff. Dark with bare lightbulbs hanging down. A different world down there. I'm glad they're making good use of the old Bay building. Seeing Eaton's getting knocked down broke me.
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My sister was checking out an apartment there ages ago. The atrium was stuffy... damp... fogged up glass... meh. I'd opt for an outside-facing suite only.

I remember working at the Bay in the early 90's. I often had to go to the sub-basement for store fixtures. It was fascinating. Tiny offices with people repairing/altering clothes, repackaging merch, fixing stuff. Dark with bare lightbulbs hanging down. A different world down there. I'm glad they're making good use of the old Bay building. Seeing Eaton's getting knocked down broke me.
They actually did a pretty good job converting the basement into a Zellers... until Zellers got sold. Then Third + Bird also made great use of the basement... until they moved to the RRX.
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Permits have been issued for the creation of dwelling units on the 2nd through 6th floors, replacement of exterior windows, installation of an atrium structure with glazing, partial demolition of roof penthouses, construction of a new penthouse for elevator and roof stair access, site servicing, and related interior work to build walls and windows for the new atrium space.
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Ottawa adds to existing investment in Bay building transformation for timber-panelled atrium
By: Tyler Searle
Posted: 4:17 PM CDT Friday, Oct. 24, 2025

he federal government is investing another $1 million to aid in the redevelopment of the former downtown Hudson’s Bay building, which is slated to become a hub for Indigenous housing, retail services and community resources.

The money will support the engineering and construction of the atrium at the centre of the six-storey building. The design features Canadian timber, Northern Affairs Minister Rebecca Chartrand said Friday.

“This will serve as a model for architects, builders and developers across the country on how to incorporate wood… in large-scale, high-profile projects,” she told a small crowd of stakeholders gathered near ongoing construction inside the building.

“This is a great example of how we’re working together to build a stronger and more competitive forest sector while investing in local infrastructure.”

Southern Chiefs’ Organization, which represents 32 Manitoba First Nations, is redeveloping the building to include 373 housing units, restaurants and office and retail spaces for entrepreneurs.

Ottawa previously committed $96 million toward the project, with another $35 million coming from the province.

The City of Winnipeg said it would provide $10 million in tax incentives, while waiving $607,000 in various fees. It also directed $10 million in federal cash received through the Housing Accelerator Fund to the initiative.

In July, a Winnipeg council proposal called on the city to consider providing another $3.4 million.

SCO Grand Chief Jerry Daniels announced in March the project cost had more than doubled from $130 million to $310 million, owing to a variety of circumstances, including more accurate budgeting, tariff threats, inflation and structural reinforcements.

Daniels was not present during Friday’s news conference because he was called away on a family matter, Liberal MP Terry Duguid said. Ryan Bear, the organization’s acting CEO, appeared on his behalf.

Bear did not answer when asked whether his organization will seek further financial support from the various levels of government.

“We’ll take the next question,” said a political staffer who took the microphone from Bear’s hands after the Free Press posed the question. “I think it’s premature to talk about that, and that’s something that’s within the purview of the elected officials — the chiefs of the 32 First Nations as well as the grand chief.”

The price of the redevelopment has not increased since Daniel’s previous update, Bear said.

“We’re still at $310 million. That’s what our budget is, and we’re pretty much finalizing that.”

When Hudson’s Bay Co. transferred ownership of the building to SCO in April 2022, Daniels said he hoped it would take three years to complete the redevelopment. That timeline was later extended to the second quarter of 2028.

Bear said it has been pushed back again into the third quarter of that year.

The latest federal money is part of a larger $5.4 million investment in 28 forestry projects across the Prairies; $2.3 million will remain in Manitoba and support nine projects; SCO is receiving about half the money.

Pimicikamak Cree Nation (Cross Lake) will receive $465,000 to bolster forestry operations and supply the community’s housing and infrastructure programs.

Another $345,800 will go toward securing a forest development agreement with four First Nations near Pine Falls.

The Manitoba Métis Federation will use $200,000 to aid in the development of a tree nursery and forest management plans.

Just over $300,000 will go to other forestry-related projects in Manitoba.

Saskatchewan is receiving $1.8 million, and Alberta is getting the remaining $1.2 million.
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