Winnipeg | 22 Granite Way | 12F | In Development

[Mr Tall Forehead]

If I'm not mistaken that was the first Winnipeg planning issues that went to the municipal board after the rule changes. The province thought they were opening the door for people like Marquess to appeal city stonewalling but they also opened the door for NIMBY appeals. Major league backfire!

[BlackDog204]

Just curious, when did they change the name of the Street from Mostyn to Granite? I'm assuming some high ranking Winnipeggers curl there, perhaps City Councillors? This could explain why the club seems to have so much pull with the city, for something so trivial, impeding much needed affordable housing.

[trueviking]

Municipal Board has been around for a long time, but it was only for jurisdictions outside of Winnipeg that didn't have their own appeals body....Pallister introduced a bill that changed its mandate to include the City of Winnipeg.

I heard they had their knuckles rapped after the Charleswood thing, but we will see....they are right now considering the Lemay Forest issue

[cllew]

Originally Posted by BlackDog204

Just curious, when did they change the name of the Street from Mostyn to Granite? I'm assuming some high ranking Winnipeggers curl there, perhaps City Councillors? This could explain why the club seems to have so much pull with the city, for something so trivial, impeding much needed affordable housing.

It was changed in 2011.

Here is the rational for the change from the standing committee that approved it:

"Mostyn Place is located between Balmoral Street and Osborne Street North and was established in 1904. No historical information was affixed to the recorded name.

The Granite Curling Club have requested that consideration be given to changing the name of Mostyn Place to “Granite Way” or “Granite Place” to commemorate an upcoming milestone of 100 year’s along the banks of the Assiniboine River"

[bomberjet]

I was looking at the map for this area. And I can not effing believe that Assiniboine ave still runs right through the nice plaza area at the Leg. Close that down ffs.

[trueviking]

is also a one way street that creates a hole in one of the busiest bike lanes in western Canada...cyclists generally just ride into oncoming vehicles instead of heading down to the river like the official path marking say.

[KnickKnack]

Originally Posted by bomberjet

I was looking at the map for this area. And I can not effing believe that Assiniboine ave still runs right through the nice plaza area at the Leg. Close that down ffs.

100% agreed. I believe that is under the province’s jurisdiction though, and if it makes it harder for them to access parking at the legislature…

Surely there would at least be room for a proper bike path connection

[FactaNV]

Originally Posted by KnickKnack

100% agreed. I believe that is under the province’s jurisdiction though, and if it makes it harder for them to access parking at the legislature…

Surely there would at least be room for a proper bike path connection

There is, it's just a bit of a pain in the ass. You go down to the hill and right back up the hill.

[Winnipeg Grump]

Originally Posted by FactaNV

There is, it's just a bit of a pain in the ass. You go down to the hill and right back up the hill.

Yup. And you go ripping down the hill heading west around a blind corner doing 25 k only to discover that, surprise!, there's tourists/pedestrians hanging out in that lower plaza. Like, whoever pushed that bike path down that way clearly didn't think it through. I just use the road now and screw the vehicles!

[rivercity]

Originally Posted by Winnipeg Grump

Yup. And you go ripping down the hill heading west around a blind corner doing 25 k only to discover that, surprise!, there's tourists/pedestrians hanging out in that lower plaza. Like, whoever pushed that bike path down that way clearly didn't think it through. I just use the road now and screw the vehicles!

Same with me, roads wide enough if a car is coming anyway.

[bomberjet]

Maybe instead of parking literally right up next to the Leg, the build as parkade out below one of the lawn areas and use that for parking. Then close down all the roads except for certain accessible/emergency/delivery areas.

Yelling at clouds a bit here (and off topic), but seems like a bad idea to allow public vehicle access up to the front door of the provincial Legislature. It would also make the grounds much nicer without all the cars.

[Mr Tall Forehead]

Originally Posted by bomberjet

Maybe instead of parking literally right up next to the Leg, the build as parkade out below one of the lawn areas and use that for parking. Then close down all the roads except for certain accessible/emergency/delivery areas.

Yelling at clouds a bit here (and off topic), but seems like a bad idea to allow public vehicle access up to the front door of the provincial Legislature. It would also make the grounds much nicer without all the cars.

Agree. The province owns a surface lot on Kennedy. They could easily add a couple of levels and eliminate some of the parking on the Legislature grounds.

[OTA in Winnipeg]

A plan to separate the parking lot on the west side of the Granite Curling Club passed a final vote at Winnipeg city council on Thursday.

The vote clears the way for the city to develop the lot into affordable housing.

Members of the curling club board had opposed the subdivision and rezoning, saying the loss of parking would lead to a loss of membership and revenue. They also questioned why the city had already approached a developer, the University of Winnipeg Community Renewal Corporation 2.0, to come up with a plan for the site.

Following a marathon session earlier this month that lasted into the evening, with dozens of delegates speaking in support and opposition, council's property and development committee split the vote on the rezoning and subdivision, with Coun. Evan Duncan and Coun. Vivian Santos voting in favour of the plan, and Coun. Russ Wyatt and Coun. Jason Schreyer opposed.

Mayor Scott Gillingham's inner circle on the executive policy committee unanimously supported an amending motion, directing city staff to work with Granite executives and the developer to come up with a parking plan and to support the club's sustainability "to the satisfaction of the Director of Public Works and the Director of Planning, Property and Development."

That same motion passed the vote at council on Thursday, with only Wyatt and Schreyer opposed.

"It's my belief that we do want an ideal society where we don't necessarily have to drive the car, but the reality is we don't have that right now. And if you take away an organization's parking, especially a not-for-profit that's trying to keep themselves alive by attracting people to come and use their facility, I think it has a big impact on them," Wyatt said during the council meeting.

Plan to build housing next to Granite Curling Club passes key vote at city council committee

Dozens come out to support, oppose rezoning parking lot next to Granite Curling Club

Duncan said the question before council came down to whether the city wants affordable housing, or not.

"Everyone around the table, including all the public servants, said it is of the utmost importance to maintain the sustainability of the curling club," Duncan said.

The plan calls for a 111-unit affordable housing building. It would have 55 market-rent units, another 12 at 79 per cent of the Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation's median market rent, and 14 at 69 per cent of that rate. The remaining 30 units would offer rent geared to income.

The city has not yet held a hearing on the plan, which must be approved by council.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manit...-lot-1.7470833

[pspeid]

Glad it seems to be moving forward. Hopefully we'll see the end of this saga soon.

[Wpg_Guy]

Municipal Board to decide fate of proposed housing development next to curling club
By: Joyanne Pursaga
Posted: Monday, Aug. 18, 2025

The Manitoba Municipal Board will have the final say on whether a hotly debated affordable housing development gets built next to the Granite Curling Club.

While Winnipeg city council approved the 111-unit residential building on the city-owned land in February, opponents have now appealed the matter to the provincial board.

Following an upcoming hearing, the board will issue a binding, final order to the city on the project.



While supporters champion the project’s promise to ensure half its housing suites have affordable rents for 99 years, critics say the location would cost the long-standing club more than half its parking stalls, rendering it no longer viable.

“Right now, we have 80 spots. If the development went as proposed, we would go down to 35 spots…. If we were to lose over half our parking, I have no doubt we would lose a substantial number of members and not be able to financially sustain ourselves,” said Christian Pierce, secretary of the Granite Curling Club’s board.

Pierce said dozens of the club’s executive members and curlers called for the Municipal Board to weigh in on the decision.

When city council approved the housing project, it also directed city staff to work with the curling club to create “an adequate parking plan” that sustains its operations. However, Pierce said no progress has been made on that front.

“The Granite is still willing to work with the city to come up with a solution… but at this time the city’s provided no solutions to the parking (or other requests for) riverbank stabilization or (a) revenue share of the development if it proceeds,” he said.

He said the club is not opposed to affordable housing but must protect its own future.

“The Granite’s been there for over (100) years at that exact location and it’s world-renowned. It’s got a rich cultural history…. It would be a tragedy if we were to lose it,” said Pierce.

Meanwhile, an organization the city tapped to develop the land at 22 Granite Way said a housing crisis underlines a clear need for the affordable residences it would produce.

“What’s proposed is a net-carbon zero, 111-unit, mixed-income housing project that would (include) 56 affordable units… (including) 30 rent-geared-to-income units,” said Jeremy Read, chief executive officer of the the University of Winnipeg Community Renewal Corp. 2.0 Inc.

Some rent geared-to-income units, made possible by subsidies, would see tenants pay monthly rents as low as $285, said Read.

He said there’s a clear need for such homes in the area, noting the nearby West Broadway Commons building has a waiting list of more than 350 households for its 56 affordable units.

“There’s a significant need and this (new) project isn’t going to meet all of it,” he said.

Originally, developers hoped to begin construction on the project by late summer or early fall but must now wait for the outcome of the Municipal Board hearing first, he said.

“It’s delayed the project, at this point, at least six months,” said Read.

Coun. Evan Duncan, chairman of council’s property and development committee, said the site offers an “excellent” location to add much-needed reduced-rent homes.

“I think it’s still a great opportunity and, above all else, if it’s still involving affordable and deeply affordable units, that’s exactly what I’m hearing from Winnipeggers… there is just not enough of,” said Duncan (Charleswood-Tuxedo-Westwood). “Winnipeggers who have been struggling to find a place that they can call their own for a long period of time (could finally) have that option.”

The councillor said creating homes right next to the curling club could also help it attract new patrons, potentially making up for the loss of parking.

A request to interview someone from the city’s planning, property and development department was not granted Monday.

“We’re unable to speak to the matter as it is currently in active appeal,” spokeswoman Deborah Bowers said in an email.

The Municipal Board is scheduled to begin its public hearing on the matter at 9:30 a.m. on Aug. 26 at the Norwood Community Centre. If needed, the hearing could continue on Aug. 27 and Aug. 28.

Winnipeg Free Press

[FactaNV]

Goddamnit

[bon_vivant]

Oh my god, these people. Entitled and out of touch. Not a single one of them could possibly relate to needing affordable housing. I'm sorry but curling is not more important than housing, regardless of the club's "rich cultural history". IT'S A FREAKIN' CURLING CLUB, not Buckingham Palace. I think their claim of the curling club no longer being viable with less parking is overblown. I'm hopeful their appeal will be shot down.

[Mr Tall Forehead]

Is this clueless asshole actually asking for revenue sharing from the development??

I thought the issue was lack of parking…

[bon_vivant]

Originally Posted by Mr Tall Forehead

Is this clueless asshole actually asking for revenue sharing from the development??

I thought the issue was lack of parking…

Could this be the first case of NIMPLism? (not in my parking lot) I don't buy the parking argument, either. If they have such a rich cultural history, and if their members are oh so invested in the longevity of the club, then they should continue to support it even with less parking. Taking this stance sheds a very negative light on the club. I don't know about these people... They also wanted to kick the Beer Can out and do their own thing when they saw how popular it was.

[neutroniks]

Originally Posted by bon_vivant

Oh my god, these people. Entitled and out of touch. Not a single one of them could possibly relate to needing affordable housing. I'm sorry but curling is not more important than housing, regardless of the club's "rich cultural history". IT'S A FREAKIN' CURLING CLUB, not Buckingham Palace. I think their claim of the curling club no longer being viable with less parking is overblown. I'm hopeful their appeal will be shot down.

And to that point, "world-renowned" is a stretch... because if it were, it wouldn't be struggling? But who am I to say, I know nothing about curling LOL