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Originally Posted by NYguy
Many of you have been on this forum long enough to have seen proposals - particularlu NY proposals get built. You know that it doesn’t happen overnight. You’ve seen projects stalled, even after construction began, only to be completed later. You’ve seen a massive development on the west side stalled for years, only to see an entire city’s worth of skyscrapers get built - with more on the way btw. That includes towers larger than the one planned here.
Now, I can forgive not being attuned to the NY office market, and how the lack of anything being built now leads to an explosion of construction. I can even overlook understanding how dire that situation is in the city’s top business district.
But how in the f*ck you can come the the conclusion that a 2msf office tower, built on top of a massive transit terminal, with a hotel component already in place by the way, is somehow visionary or pie in the sky? It makes no sense. If that were the case, then no proposal makes sense.
Listen, skyscrapers get built in their own time, not at the whim of the skyscraper nerds. That’s just a fact. And they’re almost hardly ever - at leadt in NY - built on the developer’s timeframe. Some of you have been around long enough to know that, and should know that.
And just so we’re all clear, this won’t be the last massive tower to get built in the city. There will always be more. All any of you have to do is sit there, and wait.
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I've said this before, but I guess I'll repeat myself. I don't think anyone (or at least not most here) is saying nothing will be built here. We just have a mild concern that this won't be built
as currently proposed here, meaning with
just about the current height and
more or less the current design. One Vanderbilt, with basically all the advantages you mention of 175 Park Ave, still managed to be downgraded in height (not too much but still) and the top's design (it looked more soaring and more impressive before imo). And that was in an economic climate that was more permissive to development than our current one. We're not crazy for holding our breaths until this very expensive- and lavish-looking development is well along the way in its current (or potentially better) state.
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