Portland Infill | East of 205

[dizflip]

TriMet seeks community feedback on future development of two eastside park and rides

Feedback to help form potential development plans near E 122nd/Menlo Park and E 181st Ave stations

TriMet is seeking community input on two new potential developments — one at the E 122nd/Menlo Park Park & Ride and the other at our E 181st Ave Park & Ride. We are exploring opportunities to reimagine how the park and rides are used, as we look to boost transit ridership and create benefits for the surrounding neighborhoods.

Community input will help shape the vision for these locations through TriMet’s Transit-Oriented Development program. The program works with local partners to create mixed-use and mixed-income developments that enhance neighborhoods located near our transit service.

Community members are encouraged to share their thoughts on the types of development they would like to see at these sites. TriMet will hold in-person open houses on Tuesday, Dec. 3, and Thursday, Dec. 5. Feedback can also be submitted by emailing [email protected] or visiting trimet.org/tod/parkandrides.

The feedback collected will be considered alongside real estate market data, building code regulations and zoning requirements to recommend ideas to potential developers. This early planning work is funded by a Federal Transit Administration (FTA) grant.

Source: https://news.trimet.org/2024/11/trimet-s...elopment-of-two-eastside-park-and-rides/

[maccoinnich]

What would be the first In-N-Out in the City of Portland is now planned:

The proposed project involves the development of an In-N-Out Burger quick-service restaurant with drive-thru service on a vacant parcel located at NE Airport Way and NE Holman Street in Portland, Oregon. Key Features of the Proposal Include:-61 parking spaces (maximum allowed) and 31-vehicle-long drive-thru lane to accommodate on-site traffic circulation.-Compliance with minimum landscape requirements, including tree protection and setbacks, as required by City codes and standards.-Preservation of existing trees and proposed removal or relocation based on arborist recommendations, including the potential payment of in-lieu fees for specific trees.-Incorporation of a 5-foot-wide sidewalk along the western property line as previously conditioned for future development. Purpose of Early Assistance Meeting:This meeting is intended to review the conceptual site plan and solicit feedback from City departments, including but not limited to planning, zoning, stormwater management, and transportation, to ensure compliance with local regulations and streamline the approval process. The project team seeks to address existing site constraints, such as prior tree violation reviews, tree density standards, and stormwater management requirements, while balancing City code requirements with operational needs and site visibility preferences.

[urbanlife]

So I know the first stop every Californian will be making when they fly into Portland to watch the Lakers play.

[dizflip]

Oh thank god. I live close to the one planned in Beaverton.

[MarkDaMan]

Originally Posted by maccoinnich

What would be the first In-N-Out in the City of Portland is now planned:

I'm not opposed at all, although traffic through there in the evenings is brutal. However, I thought Portland banned new drive throughs? Are they looking for an exemption to this rule or does it not apply out here?

[maccoinnich]

Originally Posted by MarkDaMan

However, I thought Portland banned new drive throughs? Are they looking for an exemption to this rule or does it not apply out here?

Note quite; drive throughs are allowed in the EG zone. They are prohibited in the Central City and in the CM1-CM3 zones, which are commonly applied along main streets. So while it's really hard to find a site for new construction of a drive-through in Portland, In N Out evidently managed to do so.

[Derek]

Considering how long it’s taken the Hillsboro and Beaverton locations to get shovels in the ground, I bet it’ll be another 5 years at least before we see this one get underway (if ever).

[maccoinnich]

Originally Posted by Derek

Considering how long it’s taken the Hillsboro and Beaverton locations to get shovels in the ground, I bet it’ll be another 5 years at least before we see this one get underway (if ever).

The Beaverton location has some complicated land use related issues. As far as I can tell, the Portland location could go straight to building permit without a land use review (and the associated right to appeal, by any one who opposes it). The zone is EG, which allows retail uses of up to 20,000 sq ft without a land use review, and it's one of the few zones that doesn't have restrictions or prohibitions on drive through. I don't think it's unrealistic to see this breaking ground before the end of the year and opening next year.

[MarkDaMan]

Thanks for the info. There's no housing in the area and I don't imagine the hotels would complain.

[uncommon.name]

Originally Posted by maccoinnich

What would be the first In-N-Out in the City of Portland is now planned:

I'm still curious why In N Out hasn't moved forward with the Tanasbourne location. They passed land use 2-3 years ago and as of my last update from the city, it's ready to go if they would just submit for building permits. The site has been cleared and even the construction fences have come down from the reconstruction of the north end of that strip mall building.

[Derek]

Yikes…

NE Portland Fred Meyer to close

Fred Meyer plans to close a store that anchors the Gateway Shopping Center in Northeast Portland.

“This closure is part of a larger company-wide decision to run more efficiently and ensure the long-term health of our business,” a company spokesperson wrote in an email to The Oregonian/OregonLive.

Fred Meyer didn’t say when or why it’s closing the Gateway store specifically, but the shopping center has appeared increasingly desolate in recent months. Kohl’s closed its Gateway store earlier this year, its only Portland site and one of 27 locations it shuttered nationwide.

Oregon retailers have endured a difficult stretch since the pandemic began as shoppers shifted to online shopping and stores coped with shoplifting and inflation. The Oregon Employment Department noted Wednesday that retail jobs had been in prolonged decline, dropping by 4.5% over the last three years.

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https://www.oregonlive.com/retail/2025/07/ne-portland-fred-meyer-to-close.html?outputType=amp

[babs]

Originally Posted by Derek

Yikes…

Watching things in the area, it's sad to see this happen. it's an area that should have had enhanced police patrols but with the lack of staffing, nothing could be done. Oregon Live seemed to soft pedal this. The store does a lot of business. It's not closing due to lack of sales, its the crime. Anyone who has been to that store can see it's being ripped off left and right.

[PhillyPDX]

Originally Posted by babs

Watching things in the area, it's sad to see this happen. it's an area that should have had enhanced police patrols but with the lack of staffing, nothing could be done. Oregon Live seemed to soft pedal this. The store does a lot of business. It's not closing due to lack of sales, its the crime. Anyone who has been to that store can see it's being ripped off left and right.

Presumably the 1% gross receipts tax doesn't help. Especially in low margin groceries.

[Jakz]

Originally Posted by PhillyPDX

Presumably the 1% gross receipts tax doesn't help. Especially in low margin groceries.

Groceries are exempt from the PCEF tax.

Huge opportunity for car-light development at this site! Wonder if the city / Prosper would be interested in buying and holding.

[PhillyPDX]

Originally Posted by Jakz

Groceries are exempt from the PCEF tax.

Huge opportunity for car-light development at this site! Wonder if the city / Prosper would be interested in buying and holding.

I assume only the grocery sales are exempt at Fred Meyer but everything else is not?

[Jakz]

Originally Posted by PhillyPDX

I assume only the grocery sales are exempt at Fred Meyer but everything else is not?

Yeah I think that's how it works. But they have high margins on the non-grocery items. And I'd guess the non-grocery stuff is a small portion of revenue.

[dizflip]

Originally Posted by Jakz

Huge opportunity for car-light development at this site! Wonder if the city / Prosper would be interested in buying and holding.

Certainly, especially with Gateway already being the busiest transit center in the entire state.

[downtownpdx]

Isn’t there a mixed use project going in on a nearby lot?

[MarkDaMan]

Originally Posted by downtownpdx

Isn’t there a mixed use project going in on a nearby lot?

I don't think it's mixed use, just a low rise apartment complex. I could be wrong though. I did notice that some dirt had been moved around in the past week and new fencing is up.

Would be crazy if the MLB stadium dropped the South Waterfront and went to Gateway. There's enough land that a new urban district with mid-rises anchored by a stadium would be incredible!

[urbanlife]

I am looking at Fred Meyer Gateway closing as a good thing because that entire shopping center is the ideal location for a major Gateway urban mixed use district