SAN FRANCISCO | 77 Beale St | 1,225 FT | ? FLOORS - Page 7

chris08876 · #**121** Posted **Oct 4, 2022, 5:21 PM**

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Hopefully this will get built! Not all approvals get built like we're currently seeing with Oceanwide and Parcel F, which appear to be stuck in limbo.

That's what I'm concerned with given the SF approval process and how hard it is to get something approved that is taller than a tree. But fingers crossed!

Bummer with Oceanwide.

Zapatan · #**122** Posted **Oct 4, 2022, 5:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by homebucket

They should all be sent to Mars with Musk.

The sun would be better, perhaps a black hole? Maybe Pluto?

Mars is still too close and hospitable.

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That's what I'm concerned with given the SF approval process and how hard it is to get something approved that is taller than a tree. But fingers crossed!

Bummer with Oceanwide.

Couldn't they buy Oceanwide's site and finish that project?

Pretty tall buildings have been approved before though so it's not a total shot in the dark.

mt_climber13 · #**123** Posted **Oct 8, 2022, 12:47 AM**

International orange is a good choice. Looks like something frank lloyd wright would build.

Charmy2 · #**124** Posted **Apr 5, 2023, 1:12 AM**

Anybody got any news or updates about this project?

gholgado · #**125** Posted **Mar 13, 2024, 1:27 AM**

50 Main St. to be redesigned:

https://sfstandard.com/2024/03/12/sa...r-plan-stalls/

Charmy2 · #**126** Posted **Mar 13, 2024, 3:58 AM**

Wow, that's kinda unfortunate. I really loved this design but hey as long as it doesn't get chopped in half in height I can live with it.

homebucket · #**127** Posted **Mar 13, 2024, 4:25 PM**

Zapatan · #**128** Posted **Mar 13, 2024, 7:16 PM**

The title is odd, if it's going nowhere fast or on hold, why is it being redesigned?

I don't think this is bad news if it's not cancelled outright. It'd be awesome if SF could pull another ~1ker.

This design is okay but could be better.

gholgado · #**129** Posted **Mar 13, 2024, 9:54 PM**

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The title is odd, if it's going nowhere fast or on hold, why is it being redesigned?

I don't think this is bad news if it's not cancelled outright. It'd be awesome if SF could pull another ~1ker.

This design is okay but could be better.

Yes, I thought the title was odd too, as the article never mentioned anything about the project being criticized.

The way it was worded, it sounded like the developer voluntarily wanted to redesign it.

BobbyMucho · #**130** Posted **Mar 14, 2024, 6:19 PM**

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Yes, I thought the title was odd too, as the article never mentioned anything about the project being criticized.

The way it was worded, it sounded like the developer voluntarily wanted to redesign it.

I agree, but again... it's just clickbait headlines and scraps of information someone tried to build a newsworthy article on.

Not a huge fan of the current design and looking forward to some refinement and hopefully more interesting design overall. No loss there IMPO.

Mulan · #**131** Posted **Jul 11, 2025, 7:43 PM**

"On Friday the developer Hines — the company that co-developed the Salesforce Tower, which rises 1,075 feet — filed an application calling for a slender 1,225-foot tower to replace an office building at 77 Beale St. The tower, which would be 150 feet taller than the 1,075-foot Salesforce Tower, would include 1.6 million square feet of office space, along with retail and restaurants opening onto a new mid-block public garden."

https://www.sfchronicle.com/sf/artic...e-20765197.php

Zapatan · #**132** Posted **Jul 11, 2025, 7:45 PM**

Hell yea! Hope they can pull it off and excited to see what the design looks like.

homebucket · #**133** Posted **Jul 11, 2025, 8:23 PM**

The specs for 77 Beale:
- ? floors, 1,225 ft
- 1.6 million sq ft of office space
- Restoration of the two original historic buildings in the PG&E/Matson Block — 215 and 245 Market Street — and the conversion of the small office building at 25 Beale St to 120 housing units

The site:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/zPayDu7KjXSaQqBeA

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Proposed San Francisco tower would forever change city skyline, dwarfing Salesforce Tower
By J.K. Dineen, Reporter
July 11, 2025

The West Coast’s tallest tower may be sprouting into the San Francisco skyline. Seven years after Salesforce Tower replaced the Transamerica Pyramid as the city’s highest skyscraper, a developer is planning to transform the former PG&E headquarters near the Embarcadero into a structure that would dwarf the Salesforce highrise by 15 stories.

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The project, which encompasses an entire city block, also calls for the restoration of the two original historic buildings in the PG&E/Matson Block — 215 and 245 Market Street — and the conversion of the small office building at 25 Beale St. to 120 housing units. The proposal replaces an earlier plan to build a residential tower with 808 units. Hines purchased the property in 2021 for $800 million from PG&E, which moved its headquarters to Oakland.

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What the proposed tower will look like is still to be determined. Hines was working with Foster + Partners on the earlier residential tower on the site, but said an architect has not been selected for the highrise at 77 Beale. The developer declined to comment on whether an architect would be selected through a design competition, which was how Pelli Clarke Pelli was selected to design Salesforce Tower.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/sf/artic...e-20765197.php

tall/awkward · #**134** Posted **Jul 11, 2025, 8:57 PM**

Wowzers. If it's going to be that tall I want something supernice.

James Bond Agent 007 · #**135** Posted **Jul 11, 2025, 9:36 PM**

I bet it'll be boring.

OneRinconHill · #**136** Posted **Jul 11, 2025, 10:54 PM**

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I bet it'll be boring.

Imagine the design of that original 992 foot skyscraper but at the new height, that would be beautiful.

Dale · #**137** Posted **Jul 11, 2025, 11:51 PM**

San Francisco says go big or go home!

sentinel · #**138** Posted **Jul 12, 2025, 12:09 AM**

Do it!

theskythelimit · #**139** Posted **Jul 12, 2025, 2:23 AM**

I’ll play the devil’s advocate and say this will not be built. 1.6 million sq feet of office when ~ 32% of office space in SF is vacant. Not to mention, Hines is the developer of parcel F that has not even broken ground.

DCReid · #**140** Posted **Jul 12, 2025, 2:04 PM**

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I’ll play the devil’s advocate and say this will not be built. 1.6 million sq feet of office when ~ 32% of office space in SF is vacant. Not to mention, Hines is the developer of parcel F that has not even broken ground.

I did read that AI companies are leasing up the vacant office space, and I read that there is even talk converting some of old office buildings. While I am skeptical in the near term, it wouldn't be inconceivable in maybe 10 years that SF has a skyscraper boom. Few people seem to remember that Miami was woefully overbuilt with thousands of vacant condos downtown in the mid-2000s but now it's just sprouting condo buildings.