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Old Posted Jul 8, 2025, 7:15 PM
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sidewalk open on Bannatyne....looks awesome.

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Old Posted Jul 8, 2025, 7:17 PM
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sidewalk open on Bannatyne....looks awesome.

I cant recall - any CRUs facing Bannatyne?
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Old Posted Jul 8, 2025, 7:27 PM
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Not sure if 'Wow' captures it. Congratulations.
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Old Posted Jul 8, 2025, 7:34 PM
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Looks soo good. Transforms the feel of Bannatyne instantly. The missing piece is the massive parking lot across from it.
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Old Posted Jul 8, 2025, 7:37 PM
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Looks soo good. Transforms the feel of Bannatyne instantly. The missing piece is the massive parking lot across from it.
That lot must be a money printer - I wish the city had a mechanism to pressure lot owners to develop.
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Old Posted Jul 8, 2025, 7:56 PM
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That lot must be a money printer - I wish the city had a mechanism to pressure lot owners to develop.
Tax downtown surface lots and impose a cap on private parking fees in them. No voter will shed a tear for Impark or absentee surface lot owners.
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Old Posted Jul 8, 2025, 7:58 PM
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Tax downtown surface lots and impose a cap on private parking fees in them. No voter will shed a tear for Impark or absentee surface lot owners.
Im on board but is that legal?
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Old Posted Jul 8, 2025, 8:07 PM
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Im on board but is that legal?
Unfortunately The city does not have the authority to tax surface lots, the provincial government would need to approve an amendment to the City of Winnipeg Charter to allow the city to independently impose such a tax.
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Old Posted Jul 8, 2025, 9:16 PM
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I cant recall - any CRUs facing Bannatyne?
there are CRU's facing both the street and the lane....I have heard a restaurant has already signed up.
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Unfortunately The city does not have the authority to tax surface lots, the provincial government would need to approve an amendment to the City of Winnipeg Charter to allow the city to independently impose such a tax.
I've tried reading the City of Winnipeg Charter before but it is very confusing. Is the City allowed to impose any new taxes, or can they only increase existing taxes? I remember there being an issue recently with the City trying to introduce a 911 fee on phone bills.
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Old Posted Jul 8, 2025, 9:41 PM
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they can't make new taxes without provincial change to the City of Winnipeg Charter Act. This is why we get user fees instead.
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they can't make new taxes without provincial change to the City of Winnipeg Charter Act. This is why we get user fees instead.
So spitballing here, a $5 per car per use user fee for parking in a downtown surface lot?
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Unfortunately The city does not have the authority to tax surface lots, the provincial government would need to approve an amendment to the City of Winnipeg Charter to allow the city to independently impose such a tax.
It feels like this would be the right moment for the city to chase after the province to give them the right to levy land value taxes instead of frontage/improvements. Unfortunately we lack the political will on the city's side.
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Old Posted Jul 9, 2025, 1:26 PM
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So spitballing here, a $5 per car per use user fee for parking in a downtown surface lot?
I think the easiest approach would be a land value tax.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_value_tax
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Old Posted Jul 9, 2025, 2:22 PM
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I think the easiest approach would be a land value tax.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_value_tax

nice idea till u have a market crash
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Old Posted Jul 18, 2025, 12:54 AM
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Hello, 127 Bannatyne
New Exchange District apartment tower opens doors to tenants, preps pair of restaurants
By: Gabrielle Piché
Posted: Thursday, Jul. 17, 2025

The complex stands head and shoulders above its Winnipeg neighbours.

A bright white on top, darker brick underneath. It sticks out, modern against historic Exchange District buildings.

Tenants started trucking boxes in earlier in July. Developers of the apartment, 127 Bannatyne, expect all 80 suites to be filled within the next month.

It’s the latest in a series of changes slated for Bannatyne Avenue. By current timelines, the East Exchange strip could see two new restaurants — from the company behind Cibo Waterfront Cafe, James Avenue Pumphouse and Junction 59 Roadhouse — and an expanded Parlour Coffee, among other construction, in the spring.

“There definitely is investor interest in the area,” said Bryce Alston, a director at Alston Properties.

Alston Properties and Concord Projects co-developed 127 Bannatyne. The 10-storey building was roughly 60 per cent leased, residentially, by mid-July. Commercially, it’s fully booked.

“I think the whole neighbourhood is ripe for further development, but it’s tough to make those numbers work,” said Nolan Ploegman, Concord Projects chief executive.


Nolan Ploegman, president and CEO of Concord Projects, outside the new apartment block at 127 Bannatyne Avenue.

Construction on 127 Bannatyne was tricky: the tower consumes its entire podium and is sandwiched between older buildings. There were delays during the foundation stage — “Ran into all sorts of interesting things underground,” Ploegman said — and materials had to be delivered meticulously due to a lack of on-site storage.

“(It’s) something to be proud of,” Ploegman said of the build. “(We) created something new that a lot of people thought wasn’t possible.”

Construction costs landed around $30 million, Ploegman added.

He’s aiming to be part of downtown revitalization — and so, Concord Projects moved its headquarters from North Kildonan to 127 Bannatyne’s second floor.

Approximately 35 people are in the office daily; another 35 job site workers pop in regularly, Ploegman said.

Two restaurants are scheduled for the main level.

“I liked the spot, and I like the street,” said Darin Amies, who oversees True Hospitality.

First, he was hesitant — 127 Bannatyne is close to both Cibo and James Avenue Pumphouse, two eateries True Hospitality operates. Still, Amies said yes to an offer from Alston Properties (the firm behind the Exchange District’s Pumphouse development).

One restaurant at 127 Bannatyne, a modern Asian concept, is labelled House of Ma’s; the other, Highwater, will involve a bar and bistro or supper club.

He’s eyeing opening dates in the spring. Drawings are in the works; menus haven’t been rolled out.

Amies has noticed greater development in the Exchange District over the past decade. More people — and increased police and Business Improvement Zone foot patrols — have helped stem restaurant break-ins, he said.

Area restaurateur Noel Bernier echoed Amies: “Sales continue to lag, but the actual experience and vibrancy and safety of the neighbourhood has improved dramatically over the last year.”

(Property and violent crime reports have dropped 16.7 and 7.3 per cent, respectively, year over year ending in March in the Exchange District. Still, the reports — 489 property-related and 140 violent — are higher than five-year averages, Winnipeg Police Service data show.)

Bernier opened Hermanos Restaurant and Wine Bar before the COVID-19 pandemic. The company’s sales haven’t rebounded to pre-pandemic levels, he relayed. Still, he’s optimistic — changes like the opening of the Portage Avenue and Main Street intersection to foot traffic contribute to greater accessibility, and 127 Bannatyne will add to safety, he said.

“For a lot of reasons, 127 Bannatyne isn’t just a new apartment building,” Bernier continued. “It’s a confidence vote for the East Exchange.”

Connor Vogt intends to draw more people to the Exchange District upon opening a larger Parlour Coffee next spring.

Parlour bought the building next door, a vacant structure at the corner of Main and Bannatyne, earlier this year.

“We’re just limited by the amount of room that we have,” Vogt said.

Parlour’s current Main Street locale can fit 15 to 20 people. The number should double — and the physical size will more than double — post-move. Vogt envisions book clubs, live music and artist-led workshops at 474 Main St.

“We have been isolated for so long,” he said. “I think people are looking for opportunities to be together.”

Take Parlour: the number of customers has jumped year over year. The shop now might see 150 people in a day, Vogt said.

He plans to keep “the old Parlour touches” in the new space while creating an eclectic feel. Expanding to the basement and roof are possibilities, he said, while declining to share the purchase price.

“We’ve been encouraged to see the amount of investment in the Exchange District,” said David Pensato, executive director of the Exchange District BIZ.

Attractive ground-floor businesses encourage pedestrian traffic and vice versa, fostering a feedback loop, Pensato said.

Alston, of Alston Properties, labelled 127 Bannatyne a “higher-end” building. Affordable units were quickly taken at rents of $1,200 monthly. Other units’ rents range from $1,550 to $2,775, including internet.

The development faced backlash during its proposal phase for its height. It replaces a surface parking lot.
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Old Posted Jul 18, 2025, 2:27 PM
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There's a lot to unpack in that article

-House of Ma's - 127 Bannatyne
-Highwater - 127 Bannatyne
-Parlour - moving to Bannatyne and Main (old antique store?)

Am I missing anything?
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Old Posted Jul 18, 2025, 2:35 PM
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Great project. Hope this spurs some development on the south side of East Bannatyne. Filling in even just the lot nearest the roundabout would improve the feel of the whole East Exchange soooo much. Get a bigass Red River Co-op in there with residential on top!!

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Old Posted Jul 18, 2025, 4:25 PM
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Rental listing is here:

https://alstonproperties.com/bannatyne/
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Old Posted Jul 19, 2025, 12:03 AM
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Buried the lede for us coffee nerds: Parlour moving to a bigger space at Main and Bannatyne! And yes, I believe that's the old antique store. Not sure if that has any implications for Rosé, the wine bar already in the back half of the building.
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