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Old Posted Jun 8, 2025, 6:15 AM
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Is Betsy the Mission Group office tower? That project was replaced with the 40 storey rental tower that was approved.

The Pacific Ave tower is also not moving forward. That file was closed.
Betsy is Fifth Avenue Properties. UBCO Offices was the replaced one.
Betsy: https://www.fifthaveproperties.com/portfolio/betsy

Didn't hear about the Pacific Ave one though that's sad, I was looking forward to that one <:0
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Old Posted Jun 10, 2025, 2:21 AM
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Betsy is Fifth Avenue Properties. UBCO Offices was the replaced one.
Betsy: https://www.fifthaveproperties.com/portfolio/betsy

Didn't hear about the Pacific Ave one though that's sad, I was looking forward to that one <:0
Appreciate the clarification. That is a nice looking project. Hopefully they make an application to the City soon. Very slow moving on the tower front, and most multifamily projects, until the market conditions improve.
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Old Posted Jun 24, 2025, 6:32 PM
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Looks like Muse might be trying to crawl out of the grave:

Castanet:
https://www.castanet.net/news/Kelowna/55...y-developer-over-downtown-tower-proposal

Also goddammit why is there so much suing surrounding skyscrapers here in Kelowna
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Yeah, I've been advocating for Kelowna / Okanagan to have a proper road / transportation network for decades now, but I'm pretty much at the point of giving up now.

The most frustrating part is they actually had a good plan in place... and suddenly decided to abandon it for no good reason at all.

20 to 30 years from now the area will be in a true quagmire regarding traffic, and everyone will be looking back at these current decisions as insanely foolish.

PS, the Boucherie and Westlake Road Interchange project has been in the "planning stages" now since 2014... that's 11 years of neglect... I mean planning for two interchanges. The last "update" on the project (to once again say they are in the planning stages) was April 16.... 2024. Honestly what a joke from the province.

It's a similar story for the Commonwealth Rd. project, which not only has been stalled in the "planning stages" for years now, but hasn't even started its lame do nothing "interim" stage where they slap some lipstick on the pig before actually doing anything a decade later.

The city of Kelowna still plans to make the UBC access and Airport access points interchanges, but at this point I wouldn't be surprised if they renege on those plans before anything happens too.
And the compete deafening silence on here since posting these farcical circumstances tells us everything we need to know. This is why nothing will ever change or move forward in an adequate direction for Kelowna and the area in regards to roads and transportation.

PS, just checked the government page for these projects again for masochistic shits and giggles, and of course no new information, no updates, no sign of any movement. Enjoy!!
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Old Posted Jun 25, 2025, 2:32 AM
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And the compete deafening silence on here since posting these farcical circumstances tells us everything we need to know. This is why nothing will ever change or move forward in an adequate direction for Kelowna and the area in regards to roads and transportation.

PS, just checked the government page for these projects again for masochistic shits and giggles, and of course no new information, no updates, no sign of any movement. Enjoy!!
Yeah, the odds that they get that done is getting slimmer and slimmer... Really hate to see it, because over a quarter million people is deeeeeeefinitely not enough to warrant basic iiiiiiiiiinfrastructure
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New updates on 1333 Bertram & UBCO Tower (looks like they're finally doing the basement?
Also tried to take pick of skyline from Upper Mission but was a bit blurry


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Old Posted Jun 26, 2025, 5:02 AM
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Looks like Muse might be trying to crawl out of the grave:

Castanet:
https://www.castanet.net/news/Kelowna/55...y-developer-over-downtown-tower-proposal

Also goddammit why is there so much suing surrounding skyscrapers here in Kelowna
I honestly hope it doesn’t get built. We do not need anymore copy and paste, white cladding on black spandrel messes.
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Old Posted Jun 26, 2025, 5:34 AM
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I honestly hope it doesn’t get built. We do not need anymore copy and paste, white cladding on black spandrel messes.
Faaaaiir, though honestly I'll take aaaanything over another Lofts Downtown
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That Bertram tower is just terrible. Putting that many spandrel panels on a high-rise should not be allowed. Looks like a cheap building from the 90's. Is this building low income, or what's the deal with it?
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Yeah, the odds that they get that done is getting slimmer and slimmer... Really hate to see it, because over a quarter million people is deeeeeeefinitely not enough to warrant basic iiiiiiiiiinfrastructure
It’s insanely comical that a project consisting of only upgrading two traffic lights into interchanges has been in the “planning” stage for a decade… If that doesn’t show intentional neglect from the ruling provincial government to the area, I don’t know what does. And the complete apathy from those in Kelowna (as exemplified on this forum) doesn’t help the situation.

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I live just off the Westside road exit in West Kelowna. The highway needs to be upgraded desperately. I’ve already reached out to the MLA to voice my opinions on it and he basically said he’s been speaking up about it any chance he gets but at the end of the day, his hands are tied and basically the provincial government doesn’t give two shits, for lack of better words.

It’s taken them a full month just to repave 2 of the 4 lanes on 97 from the bridge to Gellatly. Well, actually, it’s only taken a few days to pave the two lanes… but for some reason work has completely paused for the last two ish weeks, and the 2 lanes that needed the paving the most, haven’t even been touched. There is no urgency to complete or even start any projects in the interior. The provincial government does fuck all for us and it’s infuriating. The trans Canada twinning is the only highway project on the go and that’s federal. And even that is done half assed to shit.
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And the compete deafening silence on here since posting these farcical circumstances tells us everything we need to know. This is why nothing will ever change or move forward in an adequate direction for Kelowna and the area in regards to roads and transportation.

PS, just checked the government page for these projects again for masochistic shits and giggles, and of course no new information, no updates, no sign of any movement. Enjoy!!
I popped on this board as I was vacationing in Kelowna (usually stick to the transportation related threads).
As an outsider looking in, I can appreciate your frustration. IMO, Hwy 97 should be freewayized between Vernon and Penticton, with realignments away from 32nd St in Vernon and Harvey Ave in Kelowna. A single crossing maybe could have worked if it was free flowing at both ends, but that’s not possible so an alternative ROW needs to be established.

I also look at the geography of Kelowna area and Fort McMurray, both of which are oriented along a north-south highway and a single water crossing that creates a choke point. Saying this with the utmost sensitivity, both cities have also experienced wildfire events. After Fort McMurray, the provincial government has explored alternative routes to better evacuate the community after the entire city was forced onto Hwy 63. The same considerations should be taken into account for Kelowna should a larger scale event occur. For a region that's approaching 500K, alternative routes should exist even for smaller scale events, such as the the slide that closed Hwy 97 near Summerland. Westside Rd from West Kelowna to Vernon, an alternate route from Kelowna to Penticton via Naramata, and maybe others, should be explored into being upgraded into proper two lane highways. Obviously there aren't enough lanes to make a large-scale evacuation possible without gridlock, but something from a public safety perspective might be more of a selling feature than the perspective of simply catering to cars and pretending it's still a quaint valley of half the current population/demand.

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I popped on this board as I was vacationing in Kelowna (usually stick to the transportation related threads).
As an outsider looking in, I can appreciate your frustration. IMO, Hwy 97 should be freewayized between Vernon and Penticton, with realignments away from 32nd St in Vernon and Harvey Ave in Kelowna. A single crossing maybe could have worked if it was free flowing at both ends, but that’s not possible so an alternative ROW needs to be established.

I also look at the geography of Kelowna area and Fort McMurray, both of which are oriented along a north-south highway and a single water crossing that creates a choke point. Saying this with the utmost sensitivity, both cities have also experienced wildfire events. After Fort McMurray, the provincial government has explored alternative routes to better evacuate the community after the entire city was forced onto Hwy 63. The same considerations should be taken into account for Kelowna should a larger scale event occur. For a region that's approaching 200K, alternative routes should exist even for smaller scale events, such as the the slide that closed Hwy 97 near Summerland. Westside Rd from West Kelowna to Vernon, an alternate route from Kelowna to Penticton via Naramata, and maybe others, should be explored into being upgraded into proper two lane highways. Obviously there aren't enough lanes to make a large-scale evacuation possible without gridlock, but something from a public safety perspective might be more of a selling feature than the perspective of simply catering to cars and pretending it's still a quaint valley of half the current population/demand.
Metro Kelowna is 260,000K. The region (Vernon/Kelowna/Penticton) is around 420,000K.

The roads are brutal. I'm in Kelowna right now, and the traffic this time of year is just insane. I truly feel for those that live in West Kelowna, and have to commute to Kelowna daily.
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Metro Kelowna is 260,000K. The region (Vernon/Kelowna/Penticton) is around 420,000K.

The roads are brutal. I'm in Kelowna right now, and the traffic this time of year is just insane. I truly feel for those that live in West Kelowna, and have to commute to Kelowna daily.
My bad, corrected to "approaching 500K." Being raised in the Prairies, it's crazy to think metro Kelowna is comparable to metro Saskatoon or Regina of c. 2000, yet the roads systems aren't comparable.
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When I walked past the UBCO project downtown I noticed they are also working on the street and building site on the other side. Are they starting construction on this one?

https://developkelowna.ca/projects/1355-st-paul
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When I walked past the UBCO project downtown I noticed they are also working on the street and building site on the other side. Are they starting construction on this one?

https://developkelowna.ca/projects/1355-st-paul
Maybe... would be nice to see UBCO & St Paul up in the air, hopefully St. Paul doesn't get delayed crazy like UBCO did, at this rate we might see them rise at the same time <:0
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When I walked past the UBCO project downtown I noticed they are also working on the street and building site on the other side. Are they starting construction on this one?

https://developkelowna.ca/projects/1355-st-paul
They are not developing on the adjacent property. They are currently leasing the land for staging. It's all for the UBCO tower.
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Westjet announced an increase in flights at BC airports for winter 2025 including an
11% increase in seat capacity for YLW.


https://www.westjet.com/en-ca/news/2025/...-winter-2025-2026-schedule-with-a-new-su
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The Pacific Ave tower is also not moving forward. That file was closed.
Speak of the devil:

https://apps.kelowna.ca/CityPage/DevApps...%20DVP25-0147%20Pacific%20Ave%201200.pdf
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Wow... there are some concerningly small unit sizes in there. I imagine some must be typos or something. Looks like their smallest unit is the 26.3 m2 / 283 sf studio unit. That's smaller than the average hotel room.
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