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Originally Posted by worldlyhaligonian
We should be looking to Amsterdam and Melbourne, point blank.
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From what I've seen of Amsterdam it would be a terrible model to emulate. Those who decry vehicle dependency and traffic here need to spend time there. It is like a giant spaceship full of bikes crashed into the place and left them everywhere. Not only do they totally dominate the city landscape by being piled up absolutely everywhere and regularly needing to be fished out of the canals, but the cyclists there are like cyclists here, acting like the rules do not apply to them and flying through groups of pedestrians and going anywhere they want despite being where they are not supposed to go. Just a different type of hellhole.
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