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Originally Posted by DenvertoLA
To sidetrack away from civic park for a second. If we’re seeking attainable ideas that deliver downtown Denver a grand outdoor area for pedestrians, I think there is one main opportunity. That is closing Wynkoop st from 16th-18th.
It’s not a large park, but it would be a grand plaza akin to those in Europe. A bonus to this idea is the cost benefit ratio is amazing.
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I totally agree and this almost seems like a no-brainer. The Union Station wing plazas turned out FANTASTIC, but it would still be SO much better if we could just take Wynkoop Street out of the equation and let the plaza extend all the way to the storefronts on all sides. At this point those plazas don't really feel like a "square" - but they COULD feel this way if the street were removed.
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Originally Posted by Cirrus
Maybe Denver has such a geographically small genuinely walkable area that it feels like it's downtown or bust?
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You may be exactly right about this. If "downtown" felt large enough to be inclusive of Cap Hill, Cheseman would fit the bill just perfectly. The shame of the current situation is that people do need to take a transit line in order to reach a bigger park (except this is Denver, so people just drive instead).
But in either case, looking for 50+ free acres for a park in downtown is a bit like trying to find Diagon Alley in London - it just isn't there. Which is why I keep coming back to the Riverfront, because that's the only possible place we have near downtown for the kind of park I'm talking about.
And yes, I suppose I am talking about a "shade and stroll." And I don't see it as an
either this or that kind of situation. My favorite cities have both these kinds of parks AND nice squares every few blocks. This should not be a mutually exclusive choice.
Meridian Hill Park begins to fit the bill - but this still isn't quite what I'm talking about. I'm thinking something more like Patterson Park in Baltimore. It's about the ability to go on a 45-60 min long walk completely inside the park and not feel like you are just walking loops around a track. No 12 acre space is ever going to pull that off.