The Bay Parkade Redevelopment | 315, 271, 239m | 80, 69, 68fl | Proposed

[Islandtime]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

Observation deck will give better views than any view one. It'll be worth the $137 to go up to the top

The Empire State building in NYC makes more money from its observation decks, 86th and 102nd, than it does from office leasing.

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by vanman

It's supposed to be free for locals!



https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/cana...uver-tower-new

I was just joking about the pricing but that's good to know. I assume the timeslots will be so limited if it's free.. maybe they'll offer a discounted priority ticket for locals?

[RedArbutus]

I strongly doubt that "locals view for free" thing is going to happen. I'd be casting a skeptical eye at any random developer saying that, and this is Holborn we're talking about here.

[officedweller]

I think it'll be like free admission to the VAG.
There may be an initial interest, but people will forget about it.

[chowhou]

Originally Posted by officedweller

I think it'll be like free admission to the VAG.
There may be an initial interest, but people will forget about it.

Free with identification showing a City of Vancouver address on Tuesdays and Thursdays from 9AM to 11AM only on days it's raining.

[Vancouver_Highrise]

I saw on LinkedIn Henriquez posted some images and if you zoom in they have different renderings from the classic false creek vantage point.

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by chowhou

Free with identification showing a City of Vancouver address on Tuesdays and Thursdays from 9AM to 11AM only on days it's raining.

So, pretty much every Tuesday & Thursday from October 1 to April 30?

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by Vancouver_Highrise

I saw on LinkedIn Henriquez posted some images and if you zoom in they have different renderings from the classic false creek vantage point.

Is it the one from the MegaBuilds thumbnail?

[Vancouver_Highrise]

You really have to zoom in lol:
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/henri...J5gDAzhCgiPUhw

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by Vancouver_Highrise

You really have to zoom in lol:
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/henri...J5gDAzhCgiPUhw

Too bad they didn't include that image in the press release media kit. Only the ones we've already seen.

Best I could do:



https://www.newswire.ca/news-release...868380738.html

[logan5]

Those towers look ridiculously taller than everything else, like some kind of circus side show freaks. We'll need some surrounding towers in the 600 to 800 foot range, so things step down naturally.

[Feathered Friend]

Here’s what Vancouver council thinks about Holborn’s $2.8B development proposal
Four-tower project would include 378 non-market homes in Downtown Eastside
Mike Howell - May 20, 2025 3:30 PM

BIV heard from the mayor and councillors Lucy Maloney, Sean Orr, Sarah Kirby-Yung, Peter Meiszner and Mike Klassen; five other councillors hadn’t responded before publication of this story.

Maloney said Holborn has “a difficult job” in convincing her and Vancouverites generally that the project is “a good deal for Vancouver considering its monumental breaches of public trust” at Little Mountain and Dunsmuir House.

Orr’s comments also focused on concerns related to the city’s SRA bylaw

Kirby-Yung described the project as ambitious.

Meiszner said he looks forward to considering Holborn’s proposal at a future public hearing.

Sim noted Holborn’s proposal has just entered the city’s formal review process and that there is “still a lot of work ahead” before this project would come before council.

Klassen remarked on the design of the project.
“It certainly looks to me as one of Gregory Henriquez’s most ambitious and potentially finest works of his career

More on their statements here
https://www.biv.com/news/real-estate...smuir-10685665

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by logan5

Those towers look ridiculously taller than everything else, like some kind of circus side show freaks. We'll need some surrounding towers in the 600 to 800 foot range, so things step down naturally.

Concord's NE False Creek towers will be in the 600 foot range... I think the sites for redevelopment surrounding the parkade for something that tall doesn't seem likely anytime soon.

I was going to say in a fantasy world you could swap one of the residential towers to somewhere like the Larwill Park site in exchange for a VAG or whatever on the parkade site to balance out the towers for people concerned about the look of the skyline.

I think we might see the skyline balance out from sites on the outskirts of the downtown core the SAP building site, St Pauls (because it's Concord), Westin Bayshore (again Concord), Waterfront Hub. Maybe along Thurlow/Alberni if the residential market ever recovers. It's hard to see an office reaching Stack levels anytime soon.

[NewfBC]

Originally Posted by RedArbutus

I strongly doubt that "locals view for free" thing is going to happen. I'd be casting a skeptical eye at any random developer saying that, and this is Holborn we're talking about here.

London can have free observation deckS for all. What's so strange about doing it just for locals?

https://horizon22.co.uk/

https://skygarden.london/

Ron.

[officedweller]

If they wait long enough, RioCan et al. may be able to build a single tall tower behind the Hudson's Bay's historic facade.

We also don't know how tall Cadillac Fairview is proposing for the Four Seasons replacement (500-600ft?), but it would be limited by existing foundations.

There are some older buildings downhill a bit in the Howe and Pender area, but that goes against having the Higher Building Policy of prominent towers on main streets.
Likewise the block north of the Bay Parkade seems ripe for redevelopment, although the Arts and Crafts Building is being turned into a hotel.

[Metro-One]

For those worrying about the towers sticking out too much (though I find that a bizarre concern, many cities have pinnacles that are head and shoulders above the rest OR where head and shoulders above the rest until other towers were built in the decades after) here is a great nugget of a rumor from LeftCoaster who is pretty reliable with his information. This may just be the first of many tall towers to come now that the artificial limit has finally been lifted:

Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

A big no thanks for Stantec in Vancouver. If something is going to punch through the tabletop it should be something with form and architecture, not a block.

Also, re:Colombia Center why does the City need a building of 967 feet before it can get a building of 1,033 feet? That seems silly. When Colombia Center was built most of the tallest buildings in Seattle were 150m, the same or lower than Vancouver. Seems to me like this is exactly what Vancouver should build, since every other tower you listed from Seattle was built after it's tallest.

In reality this is the first to go tall following the readjustment of the viewcones but it certainly won't be the last. There is already a big proposal just east of this by Concord to go ~230+M and there are a few more in the works for central downtown in that height range. I don't doubt this one will be sticking out too much for long.

Besides this is years away from being U/C, so plenty of time to get it some friends!

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by Metro-One

For those worrying about the towers sticking out too much (though I find that a bizarre concern, many cities have pinnacles that are head and shoulders above the rest OR where head and shoulders above the rest until other towers were built in the decades after) here is a great nugget of a rumor from LeftCoaster who is pretty reliable with his information. This may just be the first of many tall towers to come now that the artificial limit has finally been lifted:

Thanks I totally missed his reply

[Migrant_Coconut]

Interesting. Seems like we're going to see downtown's centre of gravity slowly drift south and east toward the stadiums?

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by logan5

Those towers look ridiculously taller than everything else, like some kind of circus side show freaks. We'll need some surrounding towers in the 600 to 800 foot range, so things step down naturally.

Congratulations on being the first here to say it !! The proportion, as you say, is way over-exaggerated,and the towers themselves look like some carnivorous undersea creatures.

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by trofirhen

Congratulations on being the first here to say it !! The proportion, as you say, is way over-exaggerated,and the towers themselves look like some carnivorous undersea creatures.

That's the architect's intention. He has said the design is inspired by glass sponges that grow in reefs in BC waters. They survive by 'eating' plankton and bacteria, filtered from the ocean.