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Old Posted May 5, 2025, 1:53 PM
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First two floors in, starting the third.

Too add, this is looking like nothing like the rendering. Looks like typical apartments while the rendering was looking more pleasing, modern to the eye.
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Old Posted May 6, 2025, 3:15 AM
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Too add, this is looking like nothing like the rendering. Looks like typical apartments while the rendering was looking more pleasing, modern to the eye.
Looks to be about the same / similar. We'll see once the siding is added.
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Old Posted May 6, 2025, 7:23 PM
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Tim Banks just posted on FB that the Haviland project will start construction this summer.

"We are excited to announce that APM @APM1980 will start development of our Haviland St. property this summer with a new 7 storey boutique residential building that will have 49 units, 14, of which will be condos on the top 2 floors & 35 rental units on floors 1 to 5. Every unit will have water views & suit those looking for style & contemporary waterfront living."

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Old Posted May 6, 2025, 9:13 PM
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Tim Banks just posted on FB that the Haviland project will start construction this summer.

"We are excited to announce that APM @APM1980 will start development of our Haviland St. property this summer with a new 7 storey boutique residential building that will have 49 units, 14, of which will be condos on the top 2 floors & 35 rental units on floors 1 to 5. Every unit will have water views & suit those looking for style & contemporary waterfront living."

That's significantly less than the original plans (99 units, 8 storeys).
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Old Posted May 8, 2025, 8:31 PM
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Looks to be about the same / similar. We'll see once the siding is added.
The windows are different and no balconies is what I'm seeing.
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Quite a change at this corner.
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Old Posted May 11, 2025, 12:41 PM
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583 North River Rd

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583 North River Rd Demolition of a Single
Detached Dwelling and Detached Garage
Aaron Stavert

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583 North River Rd Footing Perimit:
New 50-Unit Residential Dwelling
Aaron Stavert

This is beside Murphys Pharmacy.
Anyone have any renderings of this? start date?

The house is gone and they are digging a mighty big hole for what looks like a foundation. With no public released renderings, is this one of those mystery projects that gets built without approvals or public consultation, a 'as-of-right' project, maybe! Anyone hear anything?

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Looks like this answers the question on the footings.

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583 North River Rd
Footing Perimit: New 50-Unit Residential Dwelling

But yet no renderings. Also, the footings being dug are small for a 50 unit or maybe there is more to it.

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Looks like high-rise won't becoming to Charlottetown any time soon in the downtown 500 lot. They want to increase density but with in-fill housing and not high-rise. So much to getting more people to live there. Looks like the 500 lot NIMBY crew has won this fight. I can see the high-rise being more for outer areas from the 500 lot.

From CBC PEI, May 14 2025, by Tony Davis
"A lot of people have this misconception that medium density means high-rise apartment buildings, but it doesn't; it means gentle infill," said Charlottetown Deputy Mayor Alanna Jankov, who also chairs the planning and heritage committee."
"It means being respectful to communities, building townhouses, building tiny apartment buildings, building duplexes and homes with accessory suites and things like that."
Well there you have it! High rises are not included in anything density.
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Looks like high-rise won't becoming to Charlottetown any time soon in the downtown 500 lot. They want to increase density but with in-fill housing and not high-rise. So much to getting more people to live there. Looks like the 500 lot NIMBY crew has won this fight. I can see the high-rise being more for outer areas from the 500 lot.

From CBC PEI, May 14 2025, by Tony Davis
"A lot of people have this misconception that medium density means high-rise apartment buildings, but it doesn't; it means gentle infill," said Charlottetown Deputy Mayor Alanna Jankov, who also chairs the planning and heritage committee."
"It means being respectful to communities, building townhouses, building tiny apartment buildings, building duplexes and homes with accessory suites and things like that."
Well there you have it! High rises are not included in anything density.


The NIMBYs won because there is a council full of them.
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Old Posted May 15, 2025, 9:55 PM
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The NIMBYs won because there is a council full of them.
👍 that's for sure!! Wait until the population grows even more and with students that can't find a place to stay, we'll see more taller buildings in the area of UPEI and beyond.
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Old Posted May 16, 2025, 8:23 AM
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I can see Charlottetown building a sort of new downtown away from the old town, with high rises built there.
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I saw this on Linkedin this week.

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In collaboration with 720 Solutions Inc. and the Government of PEI, we are committed to delivering 114-modules, that their residents can thrive in and call HOME.

The hashtag#MalpequeProject is ongoing in Charlottetown, PEI with 63% of the boxes craned into place after 8 days! Kent Homes is excited about showcasing the speed of modular construction. Stay tuned for updates on this transformative project in Charlottetown PEI.

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I can see Charlottetown building a sort of new downtown away from the old town, with high rises built there.
I don’t. Nothing in any planning document points to that happening. But you’re not entirely wrong, only in the “downtown” part. The area around Canadian Tire will have a lot of 6- to 8-storey buildings in a condensed area, but also a lot of surface parking surrounding them, so not quite a nice downtown feel.

The upcoming official plan will zone “nodes” were this city’s version of “high density” could be approved without much hustle. The main problem with these nodes is that they’re mostly in areas where the space is used by large parking lots for commercial—Superstore / BK corner, for example. It would cost a lot of money to put those spaces underground, plus create new spaces for the 8-storey apartments.
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Old Posted May 16, 2025, 11:24 PM
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New school for East Royalty

A new school for East Royalty is being fast tracked through the approval process. L.M. Montgomery is way past full and the area with new subdivisions booming in the area, a new additional school is needed. The projected population of East Royalty by 2035 is projected to be over 17,000. I'm sure that may be obtainable sooner than later.

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👍 that's for sure!! Wait until the population grows even more and with students that can't find a place to stay, we'll see more taller buildings in the area of UPEI and beyond.
PEI should be a tantalizing opportunity for high rise developers. I wax poetic enough about the opportunity for high rise development in Saint John, because of the ocean views... but PEI has an even bigger opportunity for ocean views by building up.

The comment about maybe Charlottetown needing to build a second downtown where high rises are allowed reminded me of something...


La Défence, Paris's "second downtown" as seen from the Eiffel Tower.

...When my neighbour here in Saint John informed me a few years back about strict height restrictions here in SJ, Paris immediately came to mind, which i mentioned and we both agreed it was ridiculous that our city enforces height limits, as if to protect the skyline like it we were Paris trying to preserve people's view of the Eiffel tower. Yet, Saint John still doesn't have a single building taller than its highest church steeple. Tall smokestacks? No problem... but a taller building? Uptown NIMBYs and heritage conservationists will fight it.

I don't think Saint John is quite as well set up for a second downtown like Charlottetown is, but I still think we have amazing opportunities all around the more coastal parts of the city to put up high rises with ocean views... oceanfront views are supposed to = $$$ in real estate, yet other than Uptown, basically all of Saint John's high rises are built away from the ocean. Building some 10-15 storey apartment towers or condos on the West Side could create hundreds, if not thousands, of new, ocean view housing units. There's many people on the West Side who live near the ocean, but not many people actually have views of the ocean from their homes. Even 6 storeys is enough to unlock some pretty spectacular ocean views in many of Saint John's costal neighbourhoods.

I assume this the same case, or much more so for Charlottetown or basically anywhere in PEI for that matter. Unlike Saint John and New Brunswick, Charlottetown and PEI have a much more positive and well known reputation for the scenery and coastal environment that makes Charlottetown such an attractive and world famous tourist destination. I think PEI should have even easier time than NB getting developers from outside the province to come and build build 10-20+ storey builds that unlock thousands of new homes with coastal views.

I think living in a high rise condo or apartment anywhere on PEI would be amazing. If the city of Charlottetown is too full of NIMBYs that oppose taller developments in the core of the city, maybe the best bet is to focus on developments outside the city... they will come around eventually.


Would Charlottetown's NIMBY's even oppose buildings like this?

I posted this collection of early "skyscrapers" in the Saint John thread regarding a similar discussion that was brought in response to a proposal for a 30 storey tower Portland, ME. Since Saint John has our own fair share of NIMBYs, heritage conservationists, and small time landlords that will oppose large high rise projects in the Uptown Core, perhaps the projects need to be undeniably aesthetically pleasing to make their arguments seem illogical, or even get them to come around and embrace some taller buildings... if they are simple, elegant, or even beautiful.


I haven't been to Charlottetown for more than a decade now, but I remember it was my favourite city between Saint John, Fredericton, Moncton, and Charlottetown, the cities that I visited when i came to the maritimes for a month to visit with my grandparents back in 2008. I remember Charlottetown reminded me a lot of Saint John, especially in the city centre, except it was much tidier, and felt like more of a tourist destination. I really have to go back sometime. I've since been to Halifax and even Sydney, so I've seen all the maritime's "main" cities...and even though it was so long ago... I still think Charlottetown had the best "vibe" of any city in the Maritimes that I've visited.

Here's hoping some of you here on SSP can be part of Charlottetown, and PEI in general, get over its "height aversion"

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Here is the finished stacking of apartments.

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Skylines are obviously a big thing on a forum with skyscrapers in its name. I'm from a city with residential high rises all over the place. They're not that great. Downtown Charlottetown is quite beautiful and it's not the new vinyl clad multi-family surrounded by surface parking. A 12 storey vinyl highrise block on a podium of parking next to 1860s Italianate brick buildings is not going to be an improvement over a 5 storey vinyl mid rise that doesn't dominate over the feature heritage blocks and requires less parking making it possible to accommodate in a basement level.

Everybody is building bland high rises that is driving up housing values. Being different will always pay off in the long run.

Universities are investor housing magnates especially in the era of foreign students. That investor driven housing gets built in downtowns for downtown universities; in suburbs for suburban universities and, on the city outskirts for universities on the outskirts. It gets built in close proximity to the university grounds with few exceptions.

Saint John greatest assets aren't its high rises and 99 King is continuing that trend. The proposed cladding actually looks decent to good. It's still one of the ugliest designs ( collage of ideas that don't belong together) going up in the country right now.
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I think living in a high rise condo or apartment anywhere on PEI would be amazing. If the city of Charlottetown is too full of NIMBYs that oppose taller developments in the core of the city, maybe the best bet is to focus on developments outside the city... they will come around eventually.
Stratford recently rezoned land around townhall to allow buildings up to 12 floors, making it the only land in the province where a developer could build such a building without requiring special approval, public meetings,etc. Charlottetown will soon introduce its new official plan and development bylaws, 8-10 floors in certain areas is as tall as Charlottetown is willing to go.
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