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Old Posted Apr 10, 2025, 12:22 PM
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Further to my previous comment. This just out...

Section 6 specifically, and others were predictable from recent actions


Apologies for the lengthy post. I include it for those with the attention span, and spare time.

Presidential Actions

RESTORING AMERICA’S MARITIME DOMINANCE

EXECUTIVE ORDER

9 April 2025

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered:

Section 1. Purpose. The commercial shipbuilding capacity and maritime workforce of the United States has been weakened by decades of Government neglect, leading to the decline of a once strong industrial base while simultaneously empowering our adversaries and eroding United States national security. Both our allies and our strategic competitors produce ships for a fraction of the cost needed in the United States. Recent data shows that the United States constructs less than one percent of commercial ships globally, while the People’s Republic of China (PRC) is responsible for producing approximately half.
Rectifying these issues requires a comprehensive approach that includes securing consistent, predictable, and durable Federal funding, making United States-flagged and built vessels commercially competitive in international commerce, rebuilding America’s maritime manufacturing capabilities (the Maritime Industrial Base), and expanding and strengthening the recruitment, training, and retention of the relevant workforce.

Sec. 2. Policy. It is the policy of the United States to revitalize and rebuild domestic maritime industries and workforce to promote national security and economic prosperity.

Sec. 3. Maritime Action Plan. (a) Within 210 days of the date of this order, the Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs (APNSA), in coordination with the Secretary of State, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of Commerce, the Secretary of Labor, the Secretary of Transportation, the Secretary of Homeland Security, the United States Trade Representative (USTR), and the heads of executive departments and agencies (agencies) the APNSA deems appropriate, shall submit a Maritime Action Plan (MAP) to the President, through the APNSA and the Director of the Office of Management and Budget (OMB Director) to achieve the policy set forth in this order.
(b) The OMB Director, in coordination with the APNSA, shall be responsible for all legislative, regulatory, and fiscal assessments related to the MAP.
(c) The MAP shall, to the extent permissible and consistent with applicable law, including the Buy American Act (41 U.S.C. 8301–8305), reflect actions taken pursuant to sections 4 through 21 of this order.

Sec. 4. Ensure the Security and Resilience of the Maritime Industrial Base. Within 180 days of the date of this order, the Secretary of Defense, in coordination with the Secretary of Commerce, the Secretary of Transportation, and the Secretary of Homeland Security, shall provide to the APNSA and the OMB Director for inclusion in the MAP an assessment of options both for the use of available authorities and resources, such as Defense Production Act Title III authorities, and for the use of private capital to the maximum extent possible to invest in and expand the Maritime Industrial Base including, but not limited to, investment and expansion of commercial and defense shipbuilding capabilities, component supply chains, ship repair and marine transportation capabilities, port infrastructure, and the adjacent workforce. The Secretary of Defense shall pursue using the Office of Strategic Capital loan program to improve the shipbuilding industrial base. As part of their assessment, the Secretary of Commerce, the Secretary of Transportation, and the Secretary of Homeland Security shall:
(a) identify key maritime components in the supply chain that are essential for rebuilding and expanding the Maritime Industrial Base and that should be prioritized for investment;
(b) ensure that their recommendations of public and private investments are made according to a clear metric, derived in consultation with the Assistant to the President for Economic Policy, of return on invested capital for the United States taxpayer and to the economic and national security of the United States; and
(c) ensure that their recommendations take into consideration the projected increases to commercial and defense capabilities, the projected growth in economic activity, and the projected benefits for taxpayers and the workforce.

Sec. 5. Actions in the Investigation of the PRC’s Unfair Targeting of Maritime, Logistics, and Shipbuilding Sectors. (a) With respect to the actions, if any, that the USTR determines to take consistent with the USTR’s notice of public hearing entitled Proposed Action in Section 301 Investigation of the PRC’s Targeting of the Maritime, Logistics, and Shipbuilding Sectors for Dominance, 90 Fed. Reg. 10843 (February 27, 2025), the USTR shall:
(i) coordinate with appropriate agencies to collect additional information, as appropriate and to the extent permitted by law, in support of administering such actions; and
(ii) coordinate with the Attorney General and Secretary of Homeland Security to take appropriate steps to enforce any restriction, fee, penalty, or duty imposed pursuant to such actions.
(b) Based on the USTR’s determinations arising out of its Section 301 investigation into the PRC’s targeting of the maritime, logistics, and shipbuilding sectors, the USTR shall also consider taking all necessary steps permitted by law to propose the following actions:
(i) tariffs on ship-to-shore cranes manufactured, assembled, or made using components of PRC origin, or manufactured anywhere in the world by a company owned, controlled, or substantially influenced by a PRC national; and
(ii) tariffs on other cargo handling equipment.

Sec. 6. Enforce Collection of Harbor Maintenance Fee and Other Charges. In order to prevent cargo carriers from circumventing the Harbor Maintenance Fee (HMF) on imported goods through the practice of making port in Canada or Mexico and sending their cargo into the United States through land borders, and to ensure the collection of other charges as applicable, the Secretary of Homeland Security shall take all necessary steps, including proposing new legislation, as permitted by law to:
(a) require all foreign-origin cargo arriving by vessel to clear the Customs and Border Protection (CBP) entry process at a United States port of entry for security and collection of all applicable duties, customs, taxes, fees, interest, and other charges; and
(b) ensure any foreign-origin cargo first arriving by vessel to North America clearing the CBP process at an inland location from the country of land transit (Canada or Mexico) is assessed applicable customs, duties, taxes, fees (including the HMF), interest, and other charges plus a 10 percent service fee for additional costs to the CBP, so long as the cargo being shipped into the United States is not substantially transformed from its condition at the time of arrival into the country of land transit (with the discretion for such decisions to be determined by CBP).


Sec. 7. Engage Allies and Partners to Align Trade Policies. Within 90 days of the date of this order, the USTR, in consultation with the Secretary of State and the Secretary of Commerce, shall engage treaty allies, partners, and other like-minded countries around the world with respect to their potential imposition of any actions taken pursuant to sections 5 and 6 of this order. The USTR shall deliver an engagement plan and progress report on these engagements to the President.

Sec. 8. Reduce Dependence on Adversaries through Allies and Partners. Within 90 days of the date of this order, the Secretary of Commerce, in consultation with the Assistant to the President for Economic Policy, shall recommend to the APNSA and the OMB Director for inclusion in the MAP all available incentives to help shipbuilders domiciled in allied nations partner to undertake capital investment in the United States to help strengthen the shipbuilding capacity of the United States.

Sec. 9. Launch a Maritime Security Trust Fund. In conjunction with the formulation of the President’s Budget, the OMB Director shall, in coordination with the Secretary of Transportation, develop a legislative proposal, which shall be described in detail in the MAP, to establish a Maritime Security Trust Fund that can serve as a reliable funding source to deliver consistent support for MAP programs. This proposal shall consider how new or existing tariff revenue, fines, fees, or tax revenue could further the goal of establishing a more reliable, dedicated funding source for programs support by the MAP.

Sec. 10. Shipbuilding Financial Incentives Program. In conjunction with the formulation of the President’s Budget and consistent with the findings of the report required under section 12 of this order, the Secretary of Transportation shall submit a legislative proposal to the APNSA and the OMB Director, which shall be described in detail in the MAP, that establishes a financial incentives program with broad flexibility to incentivize private investment in the construction of commercial components, parts, and vessels; capital improvements to commercial vessel shipyards; capital improvements to commercial vessel repair facilities and drydocks through grants; and Federal Credit Reform Act-compliant loans and loan guarantees. Such proposal may augment or replace existing programs with similar purpose including the Small Shipyard Grant Program and the Federal Ship Financing (Title XI) Program.

Sec. 11. Establish Maritime Prosperity Zones. Within 90 days of the date of this order, the Secretary of Commerce, in coordination with the Secretary of the Treasury, the Secretary of Transportation, and the Secretary of Homeland Security, shall deliver a plan to the President through the APNSA for inclusion in the MAP that identifies opportunities to incentivize and facilitate domestic and allied investment in United States maritime industries and waterfront communities through establishment of maritime prosperity zones. The proposal shall: (a) model these maritime prosperity zones on the opportunity zones established pursuant to section 13823 of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017 (Public Law 115-97, 131 Stat. 2054), which I signed into law during my first Administration;
(b) include stipulations for appropriate regulatory relief in the establishment of such zones; and
(c) provide for zones that are outside of traditional coastal shipbuilding and ship repair centers and are geographically diverse, including river regions as well as the Great Lakes.

Sec. 12. Report on Maritime Industry Needs. Within 90 days of the date of this order, the Secretary of Transportation, in coordination with the Secretary of Homeland Security and the heads of other agencies as appropriate, shall deliver a report to the OMB Director and APNSA for inclusion in the MAP that inventories Federal programs that could be used to sustain and grow the supply of and demand for the United States maritime industry. The report and inventory shall include:
(a) any Federal programs that provide financial and regulatory incentives for United States shipping, shipbuilding, and shipbuilding supply chains, including the training of shipbuilders and United States-credentialed mariners;
(b) Maritime Administration programs such as the Tanker Security Program, Cable Security Fleet, Maritime Security Programs, Maritime Environmental and Technical Assistance Program, Title XI, Assistance to Small Shipyards, Port Infrastructure Development Program, the United States Merchant Marine Academy (USMMA), and programs that support the State Maritime Academies;
(c) existing domestic cargo preference laws, including the Military Cargo Preference Act of 1904, as amended, (10 U.S.C. 2631) and the Cargo Preference Act of 1954, as amended, (46 U.S.C. 55304), and whether and how they can be used to ensure that United States cargo is transported on United States-built and flagged vessels, including a review of the existing waiver process and all current waivers to ensure they are consistent with the promotion of American domestic shipping;
(d) other available means that could further support the industry, including modifications of existing programs, establishment of new programs, and tax and regulatory relief; and
(e) in coordination with the National Security Council and the Office of Management and Budget, the costs and benefits of increased cargo preference rates, including on liquid cargo carriers, tankers, and military useful vessels, and options for increasing cargo preference compliance and directing open market procurement of shipping to meet urgent military needs for maritime vessels.

Sec. 13. Expand Mariner Training and Education. Within 90 days of the date of this order, the Secretary of State, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of Labor, the Secretary of Transportation, the Secretary of Education, and the Secretary of Homeland Security shall deliver a report to the President through the APNSA for inclusion in the MAP with recommendations to address workforce challenges in the maritime sector through maritime educational institutions and workforce transitions.
(a) In preparing their report, the Secretary of State, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of Labor, the Secretary of Transportation, the Secretary of Education, and the Secretary of Homeland Security shall consult, as needed, with industry stakeholders including private industry and labor organizations.
(b) The report shall:
(i) include the current number of credentialed mariners and estimate the additional credentialed mariners required to support the policies described in this order;
(ii) analyze the impact of establishing new and expanding existing merchant marine academies as a means of educating, training, and certifying the additional credentialed merchant mariners estimated under subsection (b)(i) of this section;
(iii) identify any requirements for credentialing mariners that are unnecessary, insufficient, or unduly burdensome and provide recommendations for reform;
(iv) inventory existing educational and technical training grants and scholarships to colleges and vocational-technical training institutions for critical shipbuilding specialties and other maritime studies, and provide recommendations for enhancement; and
(v) assess the United States Coast Guard credentialing program applicability to United States Navy Active Duty and Reserve sailors to increase opportunities for sailors to transfer into the Merchant Marine with validated skills.
(c) Consistent with the findings of the report and in conjunction with the formulation of the President’s Budget, the Secretary of State, Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of Labor, the Secretary of Transportation, the Secretary of Education, and the Secretary of Homeland Security shall deliver a legislative proposal to the APNSA and the OMB Director that:
(i) reflects the recommendations of the report required under this section;
(ii) establishes national maritime scholarships to send promising maritime experts abroad to learn cutting edge techniques and subjects, such as innovative maritime logistics, clean fuels and advanced nuclear energy, human-machine teaming, and additive manufacturing and other advanced technologies; and
(iii) offers scholarships to maritime experts from allied countries to teach at United States institutions.

Sec. 14. Modernize the United States Merchant Marine Academy.
(a) The Secretary of Transportation shall:
(i) within 30 days of this order consistent with applicable law and available appropriations, take action to hire the necessary facilities staff and reprogram budgetary resources needed to execute urgent deferred maintenance projects and any other mission critical repair works at the USMMA;
(ii) take immediate action to finalize a long-term master facilities plan (LMFP) for the modernization of the USMMA campus and submit such plan to the APNSA and OMB Director for concurrence; and
(iii) within 90 days of the concurrence described in subsection (a)(ii) of this section, in consultation with the Department of Government Efficiency, submit a 5-year capital improvement plan (CIP) consistent with the LMFP to the APNSA and OMB Director that includes capital project budgets, schedules, and sequencing, as well as an inventory of deferred maintenance items necessary to sustain campus operations through completion of the CIP.
(b) All actions taken pursuant to this section shall be detailed in the MAP.

Sec. 15. Improve Procurement Efficiency. Within 90 days of the date of this order, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of Commerce, the Secretary of Transportation, the Secretary of Homeland Security, and the Director of the National Science Foundation shall develop a proposal for improved acquisition strategies processes for United States Government vessels and submit such proposal to APNSA and the OMB Director for inclusion in the MAP. The proposal shall: (a) have as its objective providing American shipbuilders with market forecasting needed to justify investments in infrastructure, workforce, and intellectual property to meet United States demand;
(b) include reforms recommended by the Secretary of Defense and the Secretary of Homeland Security related to:
(i) staff structure and innovations in acquisition strategies that will improve Federal vessel procurement; and
(ii) reductions of the layers of approval needed to execute, build, and improve the vessel acquisition process, including by utilizing commercial acquisition and modular design practices that reduce complexity and prevent frequent changes to ship designs;
(c) identify for elimination excessive requirements, including the number of Government reviews and onerous regulations that add to ship design and acquisition delays; and
(d) consider use of broad industry standards and American-made readily available parts and components to drive up production volume while shrinking the iterative design process, which historically has led to delays and cost increases.

Sec. 16. Improve Government Efficiency. Within 90 days of the date of this order, the Department of Government Efficiency shall begin a separate review of the Department of Defense and Department of Homeland Security vessel procurement processes and deliver a proposal to the President, through the APNSA for inclusion in the MAP, to improve the efficiency and effectiveness of these processes.

Sec. 17. Increase the Fleet of Commercial Vessels Trading Internationally under the flag of the United States. Within 180 days of the date of this order, in conjunction with the formulation of the President’s Budget and consistent with the findings of the report required under section 12 of this section, the Secretary of Transportation shall in coordination with the Secretary of Defense, deliver a legislative proposal to the APNSA and OMB Director for inclusion in the MAP that:
(a) is designed to ensure that adequate cubed footage and gross tonnage of United States-flagged commercial vessels can be called upon in times of crisis, while limiting the likelihood of Government waste;
(b) provides incentives that will:
(i) grow the fleet of United States built, crewed, and flagged vessels that serve as readily deployable assets for national security purposes; and
(ii) increase the participation of United States commercial vessels in international trade; and
(c) enhances existing subsidies to include coverage of certain construction or modification costs in a manner designed to enhance incentives for the commercial shipping industry to operate militarily useful ships that trade internationally under the flag of the United States.

Sec. 18. Ensure the Security and Leadership of Arctic Waterways. Within 90 days of the date of this order, the Secretary of Defense, in consultation with the Secretary of Transportation, the Secretary of Homeland Security, and the Commandant of the Coast Guard shall develop a strategy that identifies the vision, goals, and objectives necessary to secure arctic waterways and enable American prosperity in the face of evolving arctic security challenges and associated risks, and deliver it to the APNSA for inclusion in the MAP.

Sec. 19. Shipbuilding Review. Within 45 days of the date of this order, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of Commerce, the Secretary of Transportation, and the Secretary of Homeland Security shall conduct a review of shipbuilding for United States Government use and submit a report to the President with recommendations to increase the number of participants and competitors within United States shipbuilding, and to reduce cost overruns and production delays for surface, subsurface, and unmanned programs. This report must include separate itemized and prioritized lists of recommendations for the United States Army, Navy, and Coast Guard and shall be included in the MAP.

Sec. 20. Deregulatory Initiatives. Within 30 days of the date of this order, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of Transportation, and the Secretary of Homeland Security shall conduct a review of their regulations, and implementation thereof, across all components pertaining to the domestic commercial maritime fleet and maritime port access to determine where each agency may be able to deregulate within the framework of Executive Order 14192 of January 31, 2025 (Unleashing Prosperity Through Deregulation), to reduce unnecessary costs and clear barriers to emerging technology and related efficiencies. Each agency will submit a report of its findings to the OMB Director and to the APNSA for inclusion in the MAP.

Sec. 21. Inactive Reserve Fleet. Within 90 days of the date of this order, the Secretary of Defense shall conduct a review and issue guidance on the funding, retention, support, and mobilization of a robust inactive reserve fleet. This review and guidance shall be delivered to the APNSA for inclusion in the MAP.

Sec. 22. Coordination. Unless otherwise specified in this order, the plans, reports, reviews, and recommendations that are required to be submitted to the President by this order shall be developed through interagency coordination in accordance with National Security Presidential Memorandum 1 of January 20, 2025 (Organization of the National Security Council and Subcommittees), or its successors.

Sec. 23. Severability. If any provision of this order, or the application of any provision to any person or circumstance, is held to be invalid, the remainder of this order and the application of its provisions to any other persons or circumstances shall not be affected thereby.

Sec. 24. General Provisions. (a) Nothing in this order shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect:
(i) the authority granted by law to an executive department or agency, or the head thereof; or
(ii) the functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budgetary, administrative, or legislative proposals.
(b) This order shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations.
(c) This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.

THE WHITE HOUSE,
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Old Posted Apr 10, 2025, 12:34 PM
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Not a surprise but I will say one thing. With Trump you can't count on something he says will happen next week actually happening, much less something where the plan isn't even to be formulated until 7 months from now.

Like all of Trump's announcements, plan for the worst but wait and see.

Does anybody know what percentage of container cargo into SJ has the US as it's final destination?
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Forgot to share this interesting cargo when I saw it on the 18th: a yacht on a ship. Anyone have any details? https://imgur.com/a/UpjuoHi (bottom left)

Also, does anyone know what the weird ship at Long Wharf is?
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Forgot to share this interesting cargo when I saw it on the 18th: a yacht on a ship. Anyone have any details? https://imgur.com/a/UpjuoHi (bottom left)

Also, does anyone know what the weird ship at Long Wharf is?
It's a bulk carrier with self-discharging capability (which is what you see on the deck). Not sure why it's here, I would love to know. The marine traffic logs show it mostly in Norway this year, maybe someone sold it to Canadian company recently, or it has been contracted for something in the region.

On the topic, the first cruise ship of the year is coming on April 28th!
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Old Posted Apr 24, 2025, 10:39 PM
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Today's MOU between NB and NL on interprovincial trade included some interesting discussion on allowing oil from NL to be processed in Saint John. The TJ's article has the most detailed explanation.

I wasn't aware that some NL oil had already been shipped to Saint John. Building a mutually beneficial relationship between NL's offshore industry and Saint John's port/refinery would be excellent both locally and nationally.

https://tj.news/new-brunswick/ridiculous-federal-rules-blocking-newfoundland-oil-from-n-b-premiers

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“It’s ridiculous that the oil that comes from offshore Newfoundland can’t come around and get processed in Saint John because of a regulatory issue,” Holt said, suggesting the issue deals with the flags on vessels carrying the oil, while referring to the coastal trading act.

“So we submitted to (Transport and Internal Trade) Minister Chrystia Freeland, and so has Newfoundland, an explicit request to have that barrier removed, have that regulatory anomaly removed.”
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At a press conference earlier in the day in Newfoundland it was Furey who broached the subject.

“There is no reason that New Brunswick can’t handle our crude product,” Furey said.

“There are some regulatory hurdles. We look forward to being out of this writ period and seeing the commitments that were made to look at eliminating some of these barriers come into effect.”
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The coastal trading act, referenced by Holt, does place limitations on foreign flagged vessels in Canadian waters in favour of duty-paying Canadian ones.

Generally speaking, it restricts the access of foreign vessels from shipping between Canadian ports. That said, it adds that the minister of public safety has the ability to grant certain exemptions via a license, while the minister of transport has overall responsibility for the act.
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The letter the Holt government sent to Freeland, obtained by Brunswick News, states that the act “reserves coasting trade activities for Canadian-registered vessels.

“However, the size and infrastructure of jetties in both provinces limit the types of vessels that can dock safely, effectively excluding the shipping of oil and gas between our two provinces without the use of foreign vessels.”

It continues that while the act does allow for the temporary licensing of foreign vessels if no Canadian vessel is available, “the licensing process involves requirements that can cause significant delays.”

The Saint John Irving refinery primarily relies on non-Canadian crude oil sources, particularly from the United States, Saudi Arabia, and Nigeria.

Some crude oil from offshore Newfoundland and Labrador, and a small amount by rail from Western Canada, has been processed by the Irving refinery fairly recently.

With the price of Canadian crude at or near historic lows, Irving Oil applied roughly five years ago to the Canadian Transportation Agency for permission to use foreign oil tankers to transport Canadian crude from three directions, including from suppliers in Newfoundland and Labrador.

In a letter to the federal authority, Irving described what it called a crisis in both the Canadian economy and energy industry.

“As a Canadian company who owns and operates Canada’s largest oil refinery, Irving oil should have access to Canadian crude oil from both offshore Newfoundland and Western Canada,” it stated.
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Old Posted Apr 25, 2025, 4:29 PM
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Today's MOU between NB and NL on interprovincial trade included some interesting discussion on allowing oil from NL to be processed in Saint John. The TJ's article has the most detailed explanation.

I wasn't aware that some NL oil had already been shipped to Saint John. Building a mutually beneficial relationship between NL's offshore industry and Saint John's port/refinery would be excellent both locally and nationally.

https://tj.news/new-brunswick/ridiculous-federal-rules-blocking-newfoundland-oil-from-n-b-premiers
Here's the requirements to get a license:

"Issuance of licence: foreign ship

4 (1) Subject to section 7, on application therefor by a person resident in Canada acting on behalf of a foreign ship, the Minister of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness shall issue a licence in respect of the foreign ship, where the Minister is satisfied that

(a) the Agency has determined that no Canadian ship or non-duty paid ship is suitable and available to provide the service or perform the activity described in the application;

(b) where the activity described in the application entails the carriage of passengers by ship, the Agency has determined that an identical or similar adequate marine service is not available from any person operating one or more Canadian ships;

(c) arrangements have been made for the payment of the duties and taxes under the Customs Tariff and the Excise Tax Act applicable to the foreign ship in relation to its temporary use in Canada;

(d) all certificates and documents relating to the foreign ship issued pursuant to shipping conventions to which Canada is a party are valid and in force; and

(e) the foreign ship meets all safety and pollution prevention requirements imposed by any law of Canada applicable to that foreign ship.

Marginal note:Other laws apply

(2) For greater certainty, the issuance of a licence pursuant to subsection (1) does not affect the application of any law of Canada that imposes safety or pollution prevention requirements in respect of ships.

1992, c. 31, s. 42005, c. 38, ss. 142, 145
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Marginal note:Issuance of licence: non-duty paid ship

5 Subject to section 7, on application therefor by a person resident in Canada acting on behalf of a non-duty paid ship, the Minister of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness shall issue a licence in respect of the non-duty paid ship, where the Minister is satisfied that

(a) the Agency has determined that no Canadian ship is suitable and available to provide the service or perform the activity described in the application;

(b) where the activity described in the application entails the carriage of passengers by ship, the Agency has determined that an identical or similar adequate marine service is not available from any person operating one or more Canadian ships; and

(c) arrangements have been made for the payment of the duties and taxes under the Customs Tariff and the Excise Tax Act applicable to the non-duty paid ship in relation to its temporary use in Canada.

1992, c. 31, s. 52005, c. 38, ss. 142, 145
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Copied from gc website:
https://lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-33.3/FullText.html

The rules have obviously existed for a long time. I don't know what the hold up has been, but this could be done before the election, considering the motivation to get it done.
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Thanks for that link FromMaine. There's certainly a lot of information to process.
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Globe and Mail is reporting companies are re-routing their shipments to Canada instead of USA to store goods here, in the hopes tariffs will be eliminated soon. Maybe see some of that new business here in SJ.
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I was over west today, so I drove down to the new cold storage facility site. It is difficult to get a good picture without trespassing or having brush in the way; this is the best I could do.

The first picture was taken around 4:25 pm on a rainy Sunday, and you can see there are construction workers on site who left shortly after. There are also several trailers set up just out of the picture to the left. They are wasting no time with this project.



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DP World opens freight forwarding office in Mississauga

""Terry Donohoe, Senior Vice President, Freight Forwarding – Americas, DP World, said: “Mississauga is the ideal location for DP World to centralize its freight forwarding operations in Canada. By integrating our freight forwarding services with our port terminals and maritime operations across the country, we can deliver tailored logistics solutions for Canadian businesses navigating an increasingly competitive global market. Establishing our presence here underscores our commitment to enhancing supply chain efficiency for Canadian businesses and beyond.”

The office is expected to create more than 20 new jobs and deepen DP World’s relationships with businesses across the area. Further freight forwarding expansions are planned in Montreal and Calgary later this year, and the Maritimes in 2026.
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The "Maritimes" would be code for Saint John in this instance.

Freight forwarding services consist of:

Freight forwarding offices provide a range of services to facilitate the movement of goods from one location to another. Key services typically include:
  1. Transportation Management: Arranging the transportation of goods via various modes (air, sea, road, rail) to ensure timely delivery.
  2. Customs Clearance: Handling the necessary documentation and procedures to clear goods through customs, ensuring compliance with regulations.
  3. Documentation: Preparing and managing shipping documents such as bills of lading, invoices, and packing lists.
  4. Cargo Insurance: Offering insurance options to protect goods against loss or damage during transit.
  5. Warehousing and Storage: Providing temporary storage solutions for goods before or after transportation.
  6. Consolidation and Deconsolidation: Combining smaller shipments into a single larger shipment for efficiency, or breaking down larger shipments into smaller ones for distribution.
  7. Supply Chain Management: Coordinating various aspects of the supply chain to optimize logistics and reduce costs.
  8. Tracking and Visibility: Offering tracking services to provide real-time updates on the status and location of shipments.
  9. Consultation and Advisory Services: Providing expertise on logistics, trade regulations, and best practices to help clients navigate complex shipping processes.
  10. Value-Added Services: Offering additional services such as packaging, labeling, and kitting to meet specific customer needs.
These services help businesses manage their logistics more effectively, ensuring that goods are transported efficiently and in compliance with all regulations.

This is something that might be located at Lorneville.
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I was over west today, so I drove down to the new cold storage facility site. It is difficult to get a good picture without trespassing or having brush in the way; this is the best I could do.

The first picture was taken around 4:25 pm on a rainy Sunday, and you can see there are construction workers on site who left shortly after. There are also several trailers set up just out of the picture to the left. They are wasting no time with this project.
Someone posted on Facebook a drone video of the site: https://www.facebook.com/reel/681106221320797
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DP World opens freight forwarding office in Mississauga

""Terry Donohoe, Senior Vice President, Freight Forwarding – Americas, DP World, said: “Mississauga is the ideal location for DP World to centralize its freight forwarding operations in Canada. By integrating our freight forwarding services with our port terminals and maritime operations across the country, we can deliver tailored logistics solutions for Canadian businesses navigating an increasingly competitive global market. Establishing our presence here underscores our commitment to enhancing supply chain efficiency for Canadian businesses and beyond.”

The office is expected to create more than 20 new jobs and deepen DP World’s relationships with businesses across the area. Further freight forwarding expansions are planned in Montreal and Calgary later this year, and the Maritimes in 2026.
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The "Maritimes" would be code for Saint John in this instance.

Freight forwarding services consist of:

Freight forwarding offices provide a range of services to facilitate the movement of goods from one location to another. Key services typically include:
  1. Transportation Management: Arranging the transportation of goods via various modes (air, sea, road, rail) to ensure timely delivery.
  2. Customs Clearance: Handling the necessary documentation and procedures to clear goods through customs, ensuring compliance with regulations.
  3. Documentation: Preparing and managing shipping documents such as bills of lading, invoices, and packing lists.
  4. Cargo Insurance: Offering insurance options to protect goods against loss or damage during transit.
  5. Warehousing and Storage: Providing temporary storage solutions for goods before or after transportation.
  6. Consolidation and Deconsolidation: Combining smaller shipments into a single larger shipment for efficiency, or breaking down larger shipments into smaller ones for distribution.
  7. Supply Chain Management: Coordinating various aspects of the supply chain to optimize logistics and reduce costs.
  8. Tracking and Visibility: Offering tracking services to provide real-time updates on the status and location of shipments.
  9. Consultation and Advisory Services: Providing expertise on logistics, trade regulations, and best practices to help clients navigate complex shipping processes.
  10. Value-Added Services: Offering additional services such as packaging, labeling, and kitting to meet specific customer needs.
These services help businesses manage their logistics more effectively, ensuring that goods are transported efficiently and in compliance with all regulations.

This is something that might be located at Lorneville.
Thanks for posting. Yes, this would be an ideal candidate for Lorneville that the local residents shouldn't be afraid of. It is also another example of spin-off jobs from the growth at the port.

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Someone posted on Facebook a drone video of the site: https://www.facebook.com/reel/681106221320797
Much better than my pictures and gives a great perspective on how large the facility will be based on what they are clearing! I think most 'regular' people have difficulty visualizing buildings when square feet or square meters are referenced.

From the news articles, this is supposed to be 190,000 square feet, and for comparison, Costco Saint John is about 142,000 square feet.
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Interesting to see the AIM site pretty much cleaned up and empty.
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Interesting to see the AIM site pretty much cleaned up and empty.
I noticed the same when I drove back from taking those pictures. I am so used to seeing the huge piles of scrap that it's odd seeing it so bare.
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Here's the piece of shoreline that is being discussed in the Spruce Lake Industrial Park expansion.

I'm not totally confident in the length measurement shown. I am only going to put it as somewhere between 3000 to 4000 feet in length. Google earth shows it closer to 3000 feet. That would mean they could park 2-3 of the largest intermodal ships on the planet bow to stern.

The current max dredged depth of the west side berths are 17.1 meters. The depth required for the largest ships are 16.5 meters. You can see the depths along the shoreline as being very constant, and very deep close to shore. The numbers are in meters. They would probably never have to concern themselves with dredging at all in that location off of Lorneville.
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Here's the piece of shoreline that is being discussed in the Spruce Lake Industrial Park expansion.

I'm not totally confident in the length measurement shown. I am only going to put it as somewhere between 3000 to 4000 feet in length. Google earth shows it closer to 3000 feet. That would mean they could park 2-3 of the largest intermodal ships on the planet bow to stern.

The current max dredged depth of the west side berths are 17.1 meters. The depth required for the largest ships are 16.5 meters. You can see the depths along the shoreline as being very constant, and very deep close to shore. The numbers are in meters. They would probably never have to concern themselves with dredging at all in that location off of Lorneville.
That is interesting. I hadn't given much thought to that small section when I reviewed the report, but now that I look at it again, it seems like it could be deliberate.

Also note, in the permitted uses, 'Harbour Facility' was added with this revision when it was not previously included, which surely isn't random.



That being said, is it realistic that that kind of expansion would be needed one day? If the AIM's appeal is ever shut down, would the port not want to expand into that space rather than go to Lorneville?
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That section of the coast is wide open to the SE S and SW. I can't see how a ship could lay alongside there in any amount of wind or sea state.

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hmm interesting.

Like I said before, that oceanfront parcel of land is the biggest "does this really need to happen" part of the proposal for me.

However, if it's actually something productive and related to the port... then it could be the best part of this whole proposal.
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