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Old Posted Apr 23, 2025, 10:21 PM
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^ Nungu is a rare Scottish last name. Peterhans is German. Jalo is Finnish.

An odd combination of names.
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Old Posted Apr 23, 2025, 10:36 PM
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^ Nungu is a rare Scottish last name. Peterhans is German. Jalo is Finnish.

An odd combination of names.
I think Nungu and Jalo has some connections to African names as well. I assume the German names are some colonial connection to Africa as well.

Someone with the same exact name is on the board of a BC/African disabled charity.
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Old Posted Apr 23, 2025, 10:50 PM
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^ Nungu is a rare Scottish last name. Peterhans is German. Jalo is Finnish.

An odd combination of names.
That's what I was thinking!
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Old Posted Apr 23, 2025, 10:53 PM
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Your proposed solution is playing out down south with people being shipped off to El Salvador without due process. You might be thrilled.
Again I never said that. We aren't so poor to not afford our own work-prison in this country.

I know what you are trying to do here, but nice try pinning me to be the likes of Trump. For an enabler of lawlessness in our society, you should be ashamed of yourself , and especially so when attempting to frame those who speak up to elicit hate against them.

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Want to talk about "proof," scroll through several years' worth of posts and let me know where I said free drugs worked. I said that arresting people for drugs doesn't work - we have over three decades of zero progress on the War on Drugs to demonstrate that.

The Riverview facilities are a 1:1 replacement of old facilities plus 11 beds (i.e. no significant change), and the new detox centre is still pending. They're a start. We need more.
If the current facilities are full, and admission is voluntary, then clearly many victims want to quit. Simple logic, easy to understand.

Yes, context IS key. If every BC neighbourhood is already turning up their nose at supportive housing for mostly nonviolent tenants, which one would be willing to accept a prison and outdoor work program for actively violent criminals? Correct: none.
Cool it: you sound triggered about putting criminals to work in prison and pay back their debt to society. Criminals/folks trying to murder themselves through a slow-death process do not have to "volunteer" to serve their time; it should be mandatory. Fact is, unlike what you suggested, many violent inmates released from prison are housed in many of the supportive housing. A work-camp prison can be found in the middle of nowhere, and not within any jurisdiction. This country is big enough.

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Old Posted Apr 23, 2025, 11:04 PM
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Old Posted Apr 23, 2025, 11:34 PM
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I don't think the biggest snowflake on the forum gets to talk about "triggered."

Again, addicts too far gone for shelters are incapable of "paying back their debt" through labour or whatever the PPC buzzword is now.
You want to make incarceration for drugs mandatory, take it up with the Charter - everything you've suggested is illegal under Canadian federal law, and our neighbours down south are a perfect example of why we should remain within the constraints of those laws. Nobody needs to pin you to that crowd at all when you're walking side by side with them.

Yes, the supportive housing that residents don't want either. That's the point. No NIMBY anywhere will accept a jail when they don't even want a shelter.
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This country is big enough.
And yet 90+ percent of said country's residents live near or below the 49th parallel.
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Old Posted Apr 24, 2025, 3:18 AM
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He says the department refrained from publicizing details of the incident due to its sensitive nature and the speed at which an arrest was made but commended the victim for coming forward.
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Two days prior, the suspect was arrested after allegedly assaulting a peace officer in Surrey and uttering threats. He was out on bail when the attack on the woman happened.

Addison says the VPD will gauge the necessity of notifying the public if the man does make bail.
Still gauging? Seems like he got released with "no financial oblication"

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Judicial Interim Results: NUNGU, PETERHANS Jalo Close

JIR Type Adjudicator Bail Deposit Order Granted Release Date YOA
ROW DOHERTY, P L 23-Apr-2025 23-Apr-2025 N

Accused Date Time Room
NUNGU, PETERHANS Jalo 23-Apr-2025 01:50 PM 101
https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2025/04/23...n-charged-after-woman-tourist-assaulted/
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Old Posted Apr 24, 2025, 4:17 AM
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He needs a good beating, I dont care what state of mind he has.
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Old Posted Apr 24, 2025, 4:28 AM
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He was released on 10 conditions including reporting to his bail supervisor within one day of his release, he must live at a home in North Vancouver under house arrest and can only leave for court or medical appointments, he cannot have any contact with the victim, he cannot posses weapons, consume drugs or alcohol and he must attend psychiatric intake assessment or treatment program to forensic psychiatric services
https://globalnews.ca/news/11145650/tourist-details-violent-random-attack-vancouver-seawall/

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Nungu also appears to be the accused in an unrelated case in Surrey provincial court.

An accused with the same name and birth year is charged with uttering threats, uttering threats to burn, destroy or damage, and assaulting a peace officer in that case. The file is marked as a “K” file, a designation courts use to indicate cases of alleged intimate partner violence.

Those alleged offences took place on April 13 in the City of Surrey, according to court records, which show he was released from custody after appearing before a judge on the afternoon of April 14, less than 12 hours before the Coal Harbour attack.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/vancouver/article...m-assault-on-tourist-visiting-vancouver/

Don't you revoke bail when you attack someone randomly trying to kill them?

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Old Posted Apr 24, 2025, 4:56 AM
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At what point do we decide that someone is too dangerous to release? He was charged and released after assaulting a passerby just 12 hours after being charged and released for assaulting a police officer. Is three the magic number?
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Old Posted Apr 24, 2025, 5:49 AM
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Go through the jail system and find one person not as dangerous as this idiot and give him their cell.
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Old Posted Apr 24, 2025, 3:26 PM
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At what point do we decide that someone is too dangerous to release? He was charged and released after assaulting a passerby just 12 hours after being charged and released for assaulting a police officer. Is three the magic number?
Has to assault a judge or prosecutor first. Police not good enough I guess.
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Old Posted Apr 25, 2025, 12:11 AM
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Maybe this has been mentioned but Pierre has promised a three strike approach to deal with these things. He also recently announced. i think yesterday, that any homeless people living in tents in parks, it could be more sweeping, will be taken away and put into forced rehab.
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Old Posted Apr 25, 2025, 2:14 AM
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Family of man accused in Vancouver seawall tourist attack ‘devastated’ by events

His mother, Nungu Magdalene, told Global News that her son was in a “mentally ill condition” on Sunday, April 13, and they called the police to help take him to the hospital.

Surrey Police Service confirmed that they were called on April 13 to a home in Surrey for reports of a man threatening a woman.

The RCMP Surrey Provincial Operations Support Unit attended, and Nungu was arrested and charged with assaulting a peace officer, uttering threats and uttering threats to damage property, but his mother said her son was experiencing a mental health episode and needed help.
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She added that her son is in a psychiatric hospital now.
https://globalnews.ca/news/11148168/fami...acker-say-they-are-devastated-by-events/
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Old Posted Apr 25, 2025, 2:30 AM
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Maybe this has been mentioned but Pierre has promised a three strike approach to deal with these things. He also recently announced. i think yesterday, that any homeless people living in tents in parks, it could be more sweeping, will be taken away and put into forced rehab.
Finally, a politician making/giving us a policy promise, I wonder why politicians of the past have never promised us anything.
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Old Posted Apr 25, 2025, 3:34 AM
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And... B.C. NDP still stalling on involuntary treatment for drug addicts

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Instead, Eby fell back on the advice of Dr. Daniel Vigo, appointed last year as special scientific adviser to the premier on psychiatry, toxic drugs and concurrent disorders.

Vigo concluded that involuntary detention and treatment could be accomplished under the existing Mental Health Act if only its provisions were better understood.

He produced a set of guidelines for doctors, health-care workers and others that clarified the act’s provisions.

“This document will settle some of the spurious controversies generated during the past decade around the use of the Mental Health Act, controversies that have tied the hands of many physicians and created barriers to the care of people with substance-use disorders in the moment of greater need,” he told reporters at a news conference in mid-March.

The government scrapped plans for new legislation and set about implementing the guidelines for the existing act, first as they apply to adult addicts, then to young people.

Still, Eby doesn’t rule out going a similar legislative route as Alberta at some point.
https://vancouversun.com/opinion/columni...lling-involuntary-treatment-drug-addicts

10 involuntary treatment beds opened in Surrey.

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“For the vast majority that is struggling with addictions, this has nothing to do with you,” he said. “This is for a very small cohort of people who are struggling in a very visible, serious and public way where their own safety is compromised as well as the safety of the broader community.”

He hopes having this level of care at the pretrial centre means judges won’t have to choose between putting an alleged offender behind bars for the safety of the community but without adequate care or releasing them into the community to hopefully get the care they need, he said.
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On Thursday, staff was assessing one person at the pretrial centre for potential admission to the unit and four others in detention at another facility who may be transferred.

The government plans to open another 20 involuntary care beds in a Maple Ridge facility later this spring and more than 400 mental-health care beds at new and expanded hospitals across the province, which can provide involuntary care under the Mental Health Act.
https://vancouversun.com/news/involuntary-care-beds-open-at-surrey-detention-centre
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Old Posted Apr 25, 2025, 6:22 PM
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And... B.C. NDP still stalling on involuntary treatment for drug addicts



https://vancouversun.com/opinion/columni...lling-involuntary-treatment-drug-addicts

10 involuntary treatment beds opened in Surrey.


https://vancouversun.com/news/involuntary-care-beds-open-at-surrey-detention-centre
As in the 90s, the NDP government is in financial crisis so I doubt they can do anything positive in this front. Their lax attitude towards the drug crisis here by putting money into things that don't work makes it worse.

Still waiting for these as per last election promises/platform:
1. Massey Tunnel
2. $10/day daycare for the entire province
3. Involuntary drug treatment and eradicating free drugs
4. Delivering affordable homes
5. Keeping communities safe

I don't think any of these have been realized.

We need a thousand beds, not just 10 beds.
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Old Posted Apr 25, 2025, 7:08 PM
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And... B.C. NDP still stalling on involuntary treatment for drug addicts
You say this while posting articles talking about how they are already opening involuntary treatment facilities. How is that stalling?
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Old Posted Apr 25, 2025, 7:12 PM
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Massey Tunnel
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Schedule: Construction starting in 2026 and Project completion in 2030.
https://www.highway99tunnel.ca/project-overview-frt/
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Old Posted Apr 27, 2025, 6:24 AM
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Seriously, what the f@ck is wrong with people?! It’s heartbreaking to think that people are just out for a good time with their families and this happens. RIP to the victims.

Several people killed, others injured after vehicle drives into Vancouver street festival crowd
Vancouver police say the driver is in custody after incident at the Lapu Lapu Day Block Party
CBC News · Posted: Apr 26, 2025 9:43 PM PDT | Last Updated: 12 minutes ago

Vancouver police say several people have been killed and multiple others injured after a vehicle drove into a crowd at a street festival Saturday evening.

The incident happened shortly after 8 p.m. near East 41st Avenue and Fraser Street, where the Lapu Lapu Day Block Party was taking place.

Police said the driver is in custody...[/I]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-c...ival-lapu-lapu-day-block-party-1.7519778
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