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Old Posted Feb 27, 2025, 4:52 PM
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Axon should just cut ties with Scottsdale and grab something over by TSMC while there's still land available in that area. I am still wondering why Phoenix hasn't stepped in and isn't offering them up something in order to keep them in the state.
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Old Posted Feb 27, 2025, 4:54 PM
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Axon should just cut ties with Scottsdale and grab something over by TSMC while there's still land available in that area. I am still wondering why Phoenix hasn't stepped in and isn't offering them up something in order to keep them in the state.
They're still hanging in there. There'll be a public protest very soon.
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Old Posted Mar 13, 2025, 4:52 PM
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First phase of "The Parque" with renderings below...honestly getting goosebumps looking at them has the potential to really elevate the mixed use game here in the Valley. Unfortunate it will be phased with surface parking but I can see it filling in nicely if they get the first phase right.

https://eservices.scottsdaleaz.gov/plann...licant_submittals/ProjInfo_6_DR_2025.pdf
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Old Posted Mar 13, 2025, 5:02 PM
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First phase of "The Parque" with renderings below...honestly getting goosebumps looking at them has the potential to really elevate the mixed use game here in the Valley. Unfortunate it will be phased with surface parking but I can see it filling in nicely if they get the first phase right.

https://eservices.scottsdaleaz.gov/plann...licant_submittals/ProjInfo_6_DR_2025.pdf
Looks nice but not sure how its a game changer, not very different form like Scottsdale Quarter
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Old Posted Mar 17, 2025, 5:17 PM
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Looks nice but not sure how its a game changer, not very different form like Scottsdale Quarter
Ill take a dozen Scottsdale Quarters over another single story retail development reminiscent of this area.
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Old Posted Mar 17, 2025, 9:38 PM
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Looks nice but not sure how its a game changer, not very different form like Scottsdale Quarter
Scottsdale Quarter was a huge game changer. The Parque is going to bring even more demand for the midrise apartments/condos that line Scottsdale Rd.
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Old Posted Mar 18, 2025, 3:56 PM
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I think we have different definitions of game change.

I agree Kierland/SQ was a game changer for that area of town, the Parque is continuation of those trends but it doesn't "change the game"

Regardless i think its a very positive additional to the neighborhood.
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Old Posted Mar 18, 2025, 4:48 PM
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^ All good.

There's no Optima Kierland without the Scottsdale Quarter, and with the addition of The Parque I think we'll get more residential projects of the same caliber.
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Old Posted Apr 16, 2025, 1:35 AM
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>SB1543, which will cancel next year's Scottsdale citizen referendum election on the zoning for Axon's headquarters, passed 17-13. Now it heads to
@GovernorHobbs

https://x.com/jeremyduda/status/1912263229914689592
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Old Posted Apr 16, 2025, 4:02 PM
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>SB1543, which will cancel next year's Scottsdale citizen referendum election on the zoning for Axon's headquarters, passed 17-13. Now it heads to
@GovernorHobbs

https://x.com/jeremyduda/status/1912263229914689592

I am very happy to see the state trying to step in here, did not expect it!

This referendum is really hollow when this is going to be built within 500 feet and a 1 million sqft light industrial complex is going in across the 101 from where AXON wants to build. Oh and I forgot a whole Banner Medical complex too on the other side.

The citizens against this rings hollow, I think its something personal among the movers and shakers of nroth scottsdale drummed up to a community fight.

Industrial going in literally across the street:

https://azbigmedia.com/real-estate/creat...he-loop-industrial-campus-in-scottsdale/

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Old Posted Apr 16, 2025, 5:13 PM
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I am very happy to see the state trying to step in here, did not expect it!

This referendum is really hollow when this is going to be built within 500 feet and a 1 million sqft light industrial complex is going in across the 101 from where AXON wants to build. Oh and I forgot a whole Banner Medical complex too on the other side.

The citizens against this rings hollow, I think its something personal among the movers and shakers of nroth scottsdale drummed up to a community fight.

Industrial going in literally across the street:

https://azbigmedia.com/real-estate/creat...he-loop-industrial-campus-in-scottsdale/

The main objection seems to be to the apartments, not commercial uses. The NIMBY faction in Scottsdale seems determined to fight against any more of them in their city.
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Old Posted Apr 16, 2025, 7:11 PM
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This article helps shed more light on the anti-development movements taking place around the valley.

https://azbigmedia.com/real-estate/the-m...ng-cases-and-new-development-in-arizona/
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>SB1543, which will cancel next year's Scottsdale citizen referendum election on the zoning for Axon's headquarters, passed 17-13. Now it heads to
@GovernorHobbs

https://x.com/jeremyduda/status/1912263229914689592
Just to follow up here - the gov signed the bill.

So is it done or does it get tied up in courts now?
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Old Posted Apr 19, 2025, 4:30 PM
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Just to follow up here - the gov signed the bill.

So is it done or does it get tied up in courts now?
It's possible there could be some court battle but I think the state is within its rights here and the more likely first step of opposition would be to try to gather signatures for a veto referendum. Opposition can begin gathering signatures immediately upon the end of the Arizona legislative session. Session is supposed to end a week from today but that's a non-binding date and the session won't actually end until they pass a budget, the hard deadline for that is July 31st because if the budget isn't passed by then you get State Gov Shutdown. Realistically, end of session would be sometime on May. The opposition has 90 days after the end of session to gather the requisite # of signatures, which is equal to 5% of ballots cast in the last gubernatorial election (2022), so in this case they need 127,975 signatures. If enough signatures are valid, this would result in this veto referendum being placed on the 2026 ballot. If this effort fails, undoing the law via referendum would become much harder because you would have to do it as a statute instead of a veto referendum which requires twice the number of signatures (10% of last gov race)
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A lot of chatter about this today. Sounds like Axon has had enough of Scottsdale nimbyism and the city council, and is moving forward with the previously approved version of the project as negotiations with the city to appease the opposition apparently fell apart.

https://ktar.com/arizona-business/axon-scottsdale-campus-future/5715899/
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Old Posted Jun 12, 2025, 12:32 AM
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A lot of chatter about this today. Sounds like Axon has had enough of Scottsdale nimbyism and the city council, and is moving forward with the previously approved version of the project as negotiations with the city to appease the opposition apparently fell apart.

https://ktar.com/arizona-business/ax...uture/5715899/
What's the point in working with the city when they can get everything they want from the new legislation? Might this be an Axon PR stunt?
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Old Posted Jun 16, 2025, 3:26 PM
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It appears Axon was even trying to be nice and Scottsdale leadership is so full of fools they sank their own demands. I say good riddance, Axon has the green light to do what it wants, the city council can pound sand.

They are lucky Axon is sticking around with the way they've been treated this year.

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News emerged this week that, despite having been handed a victory from the Arizona State Legislature that would have allowed it to build its nearly $1.5B planned headquarters campus as originally envisioned and approved last year, Axon Enterprise had been in negotiations with leadership from the City of Scottsdale to dramatically reduce the number of planned residential units and overall density to make the project more palatable to local leaders and project opponents.

Those negotiations came to a crashing halt between the end of last week and the beginning of this one after texts from Councilmember Adam Kwasman to Terrance Thornton, Mayor Lisa Borowsky’s chief of staff, were made public on social media.

AZBEX has covered the Axon proposal and the resulting fights over the development in Scottsdale and the State Legislature in greater detail than any other news outlet. While we will not take up the time and space to rehash the events of the last eight months, readers can catch up at this link.

Suffice it to say, Axon had cleared a variety of hurdles and had all the pieces lined up to allow it to build a corporate campus with a 401KSF headquarters with nearly 1,900 multifamily units, six retail buildings, a 435-room hotel, and seven restaurants at Hayden Road and Mayo Blvd.

Even though all the proverbial ducks were in a row following Axon’s wins, company leaders were meeting with Scottsdale officials on a reduced proposal. According to the Arizona Republic, “…the company was willing to cap the number of apartment units at 850, with the possibility of building up to 850 condo units. That would reduce the total number of housing units to 1,700,” along with other concessions.

Citing Axon President Josh Isner, Phoenix Business Journal reported, “Axon’s most consequential offer during the negotiations involved cutting the proposed multifamily units at its headquarters campus to less than 900… Axon also proposed funding a ‘real-time crime center’ for Scottsdale Police Department on their campus, relocating roads away from the nearby neighborhoods and creating a partnership to construct a performing arts center.”

After June 5 meetings between Axon officials, Borowsky, Kwasman and Councilmembers Solange Whitehead and Maryann McAllen last week, Kwasman texted: “Axon reduced apts by 50%. Reduced overall density by 25%. Willing to do a concert hall, police HQ, everything. Lisa bailed on the meeting. Won’t schedule a follow up tomorrow which she promised. She’s (expletive) this whole thing up. I had to talk Isner off a ledge just now.”

In a separate text, he said, “I just talked to Solange. Let me be very clear if she doesn’t make a deal. Solange is joining the Supermajority. She’s going to be a 6-1 vote for four years. I’m going to take away her (expletive) physical office and give it to Jan.” The “Jan” referenced is Councilmember Jan Dubauskas.

After additional discussions with Borowsky, Axon spokesperson David Leibowitz posted a statement from Isner on X that said, “Unfortunately, Axon is withdrawing from negotiations with the City of Scottsdale. The internal politics of the City Council currently make it impossible to reach an agreement. I have never seen such a toxic environment in my life. We put a great deal on the table and we tried our best.”

Isner told the Arizona Republic the company had come to Scottsdale with the offer in hopes of “nothing more than having a productive relationship.”

With discussions having fallen apart, Axon now says it will proceed with building the campus as was originally planned and approved. In an interview with Phoenix Business Journal, Isner said, “This group of people is not serious about doing business. They’re serious about grabbing power… And it’s ugly. The people who are ultimately going to lose as a result of this are the people of Scottsdale.”

Newly Seated Council Marked by Infighting

Borowsky, Kwasman, Dubauskas and McAllen were swept into office last November on a wave of anti-development sentiment, fueled in large part by a contingent of voters who believed the previous iteration of the Mayor and Council, had been too ready to approve new development, particularly in multifamily.

This sentiment arose even though the Council under former Mayor David Ortega was one of the most restrictive in the state in terms of new project approvals.

Of the former council, only Whitehead, Graham and Kathy Littlefield remained, as their seats were not up for election. Littlefield is the wife of former Councilmember and current Axon opposition leader Bob Littlefield. Graham has consistently voted against new development. Whitehead is widely seen as comparatively moderate, having voted both for and against apartment development in past cases. McAllen is seen as moderate-to-liberal.

In the previous Council’s vote to approve Axon’s proposal and development agreements last November, Whitehead voted in favor; Littlefield and Graham voted against.

After being sworn in earlier this year, Borowsky and the Council almost immediately fell prey to infighting, with Borowsky on one side and a coalition of Kwasman, Graham, Littlefield and Dubauskas on the other. Much of the fighting centered around a planned parking garage in Old Town, which Borowsky has been working to relocate.

An anonymous criminal complaint was filed about Borowsky, alleging secret meetings about the garage plan. The Maricopa County Attorney’s Office chose not to pursue an investigation. Recordings related to the complaint and preliminary inquiries, however, show the depths of the divisions within Scottsdale’s leadership, including harsh personal statements made to investigators about Borowsky. Borowsky has said she is considering a defamation lawsuit once all the materials have been reviewed. She has also accused her opponents of “an attempted palace coup.”

“Parkingate,” as the controversy has come to be referred to locally, has involved multiple accusations of shady dealings by Borowsky and her staff, with equally vitriolic rebuttals by Councilmembers.

A May 13 retreat with Borowsky and the Council intended to foster cooperation and teamwork quickly devolved into acrimony.

Also in May, Kwasman led an effort to strip two staff positions from the Mayor, ostensibly in an attempt to provide more support resources for Council. Borowsky reclaimed the two positions weeks later in a budget vote.

While the conservative-leaning end goals of the majority of Scottsdale’s leadership are largely united, the practical ability to achieve them appear to fall apart in the day-to-day minutia, leading up to the current set of events with Axon in which infighting has led to snatching defeat from the jaws of victory for the development’s opponents.
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Old Posted Jun 17, 2025, 5:25 PM
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It ain't no Astra but at least it's moving forward on something that I think was entitled like 3 years ago?

https://azbigmedia.com/real-estate/empir...n-senior-living-community-in-scottsdale/
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Old Posted Jun 20, 2025, 5:58 AM
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Optima McDowell Mtn Update

The tower crane at the Optima site off Scottsdale/101 was relocated into the basement foundation for the next (2) tower(s). The first tower directly off Scottsdale Rd is evidently for rent apartments. The next tower will be for purchase condos. Looks like for now they'll be building one at a time as they sell out another one will go up - very much like Kierland Optima. Hoping that overtime they can update their plans and build up to the original height they envisioned. Would like to see something up to 14 stories at that location right off the 101. Right now that area down to City North is going vertical all up to 8 stories and it just looks like a giant blob of non-distinct buildings.

It is kinda cool from 101 at Scottsdale you can take in all the new buildings and see the 5 towers on the Lake in Tempe at the very end of it all. Imagine if one day downtown Scottsdale could actually go vertical like Tempe.
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