Atlanta: Photo of the Day

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Originally Posted by Pemgin

How often do you see a Camry drag racing or pretending the car can drive itself and then crash horribly?

Edit: https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevebanker...highest-accident-rate-of-any-auto-brand/

So anecdotal based on biased, got it. Teslas are the safest cars on the road, seems to be smart decision to drive yourself and family in the safest car on the road. Again what stats or evidence do you have that people driving Teslas on average are much dumber than other drivers besides your personal bias?

Your article doesn't account for miles driven. NHTSA data lists Teslas as 5 star rating.

[Pemgin]

Originally Posted by stepover

So anecdotal based on biased, got it. Teslas are the safest cars on the road, seems to be smart decision to drive yourself and family in the safest car on the road. Again what stats or evidence do you have that people driving Teslas on average are much dumber than other drivers besides your personal bias?

If you’d bother to read the link I very clearly posted you would get corroboration to my claim that Tesla DRIVERS are generally dumber than most (I.E. cause the most accidents, some of the highest DUI rates). I didn’t say anything about the safety of the cars themselves.

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Originally Posted by Pemgin

If you’d bother to read the link I very clearly posted you would get corroboration to my claim that Tesla DRIVERS are generally dumber than most (I.E. cause the most accidents, some of the highest DUI rates). I didn’t say anything about the safety of the cars themselves.

I skimmed the article. Driving fast doesn't necessarily make someone dumber. Buying a safe car does make someone smarter. The article says Tesla drivers are statistically dumber? I didn't see that in the article. I'll admit over trusting autopilot can have a negative effect on accidents for sure, but that stat will reverse in a year since (supervised) FSD is EXTREMLY good now. So are you saying if Teslas have less incidents in a year, the drivers IQs increased?

[Pemgin]

Originally Posted by stepover

I skimmed the article. Driving fast doesn't necessarily make someone dumber. Buying a safe car does make someone smarter. The article says Tesla drivers are statistically dumber? I didn't see that in the article. I'll admit over trusting autopilot can have a negative effect on accidents for sure, but that stat will reverse in a year since (supervised) FSD is EXTREMLY good now. So are you saying if Teslas have less incidents in a year, the drivers IQs increased?

Yes, buying a safe car (or any car) and driving it poorly makes you stupid. And, according to the study within the article, Tesla drivers do this more than the drivers of any other manufacturer.

Just to be clear, you're saying that not operating a vehicle safely, as in driving it fast, doesn't make one dumber? I hope not because that would really undermine your argument that Tesla drivers are smart.

[Pemgin]

I would also go on to say that if you rely on your car to drive for you you're not that bright. You're expecting a machine to make better decisions and have better judgement than you?

[Sojourner_Terminus]

Originally Posted by Pemgin

I would also go on to say that if you rely on your car to drive for you you're not that bright. You're expecting a machine to make better decisions and have better judgement than you?

Yeah, who would do that?

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[Pemgin]

Originally Posted by Sojourner_Terminus

Yeah, who would do that?

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Lol don't get me started on that —. I've derailed this thread enough.

[Julien]

Sorry the fuc$ I posted the picture. I posted because I actually came up on it running and was personally affected by it. Did NOT mean for it to turn into an obtuse debate based on blinded bias, subjective prejudice options with wild, unfounded internet accusations. All of which are unrelated to the crash.

Now the simple and most likely scenario is a CAR was being driven at excessive speed by an irresponsible driver and ran a red light hitting the truck, killing 2 young people.

So to try and push us from cars (intelligence) back to Atlanta pictures. Today Waymo opened up Early Access reservations in ATL. So here is a Picture of the 65 sq mi of Atlanta it will initially cover.

I'll try and run Thursday, take some poor artistic quality pictures and post one here.

[Sojourner_Terminus]

I actually like teslas and don't have a problem with them or their owners. I was simply making light of the situation. My personal bias is against nissan altima and dodge charger/challenger drivers.

We appreciate your running pics, Julien. Keep em coming.

[Pemgin]

Originally Posted by Julien

Sorry the fuc$ I posted the picture. I posted because I actually came up on it running and was personally affected by it. Did NOT mean for it to turn into an obtuse debate based on blinded bias, subjective prejudice options with wild, unfounded internet accusations. All of which are unrelated to the crash.

Now the simple and most likely scenario is a CAR was being driven at excessive speed by an irresponsible driver and ran a red light hitting the truck, killing 2 young people.

So to try and push us from cars (intelligence) back to Atlanta pictures. Today Waymo opened up Early Access reservations in ATL. So here is a Picture of the 65 sq mi of Atlanta it will initially cover.

I'll try and run Thursday, take some poor artistic quality pictures and post one here.

You post good pictures. Thank you for that.

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Originally Posted by Pemgin

Yes, buying a safe car (or any car) and driving it poorly makes you stupid. And, according to the study within the article, Tesla drivers do this more than the drivers of any other manufacturer.

Just to be clear, you're saying that not operating a vehicle safely, as in driving it fast, doesn't make one dumber? I hope not because that would really undermine your argument that Tesla drivers are smart.

I'm saying your logic is wrong. I would say there are 2 reasons the incident rate may be higher is; instant torque acceleration and the newness of self driving tech whenever the data is compiled. That is not the equivalent of the drivers being dumber. If it was, WHEN incident rates drop (which they will) if you tracked the advancement of FSD then somehow miraculously Tesla drivers become the smartest drivers. Is that what you're saying or only that incident rates are an indication of being dumb? I would bet if a Corolla accelerated like a Tesla if would have similar incident rates.

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Originally Posted by Pemgin

I would also go on to say that if you rely on your car to drive for you you're not that bright. You're expecting a machine to make better decisions and have better judgement than you?

You don't seem to be paying attention to the tech, automous driving WILL be safer then human driver in less than year. It basically has 8 eyes (cameras), can make instantaneous decisions, doesn't get tired, DUIs. There is a clear path to them being safer. Maybe you should go back to a horse and buggy, you'll get into less crashes and be super smart!

[RocketSurgeon]

Mods are asleep today apparently

[Julien]

And the [not'a] artist [and lac'a'talent] strikes again. Out for an early and BEAUTIFUL morning in ATL run.





Supertall and Super good look'n


What a treasure


Out of spite, NEVER tell me I can't do something that I CAN do.

[Pemgin]

imagining that last shot with 50 Allen Plaza looming in the back...maybe one day

[NiffTheFox]

Thank you for sharing. Love these pics, and Flatiron is looking classy as usual.

[Julien]

I know I've posted this picture angle before.....but......Saturday early morning run.



How about SIGN of the day. Can anyone identify the plants in the picture?

[Sojourner_Terminus]

Nice wide angle shot. That area is primed and ready for a few towers.

And talk about erosion control.

[Julien]

I know: Not BoA again.......but....

[Sojourner_Terminus]

Personally love the BOA tower. Its kind of like our Empire State Building.