Quebec, the French Language, and Quebecois Identity

[dreambrother808]

Originally Posted by New Brisavoine

I thought English speakers supposedly didn't pay attention to accents and were more "tolerant" than French speakers in this respect? We would have been lied to then?

Does your government house leader Arielle Kayabaga have "a very strong accent and sounds nowhere near an Anglophone politician", or is the jab reserved for Québécois politicians specifically?

Your oversensitivity reaches the point of insanity here. Noticing someone has a strong accent is simply noticing someone has a strong accent. There is no value judgement in that, other than the one you have internally fabricated.

[dleung]

Originally Posted by dreambrother808

Traces of accent here and there? He has a very strong accent and sounds nowhere near an Anglophone politician.

Lol I know you're just responding to another's claim, but it's totally giving parody vibes to finally see a non-Francophone SSPer sizing up a politician's accent I like to imagine a monocle is involved

[dreambrother808]

Originally Posted by kwoldtimer

Kayabaga is a bit different - many would not hear an accent or might think she is second generation.

I hear an obvious non-native accent but relatively mild. Once again, no value judgement. I only judge someone when they speak English poorly and then become rude when I don’t understand them. That being said, Canadians seem to be more adept than the French at figuring out what someone is saying at differing language levels and regional variations.

[New Brisavoine]

Originally Posted by dleung

Lol I know you're just responding to another's claim, but it's totally giving parody vibes to finally see a non-Francophone SSPer sizing up a politician's accent I like to imagine a monocle is involved

I thought that was quite rich too.

[dreambrother808]

Originally Posted by New Brisavoine

I thought that was quite rich too.

He’s not agreeing with you.

[dleung]

Originally Posted by dreambrother808

He’s not agreeing with you.

NB was in so deep that he couldn't imagine the language obsession being parodied lol

[dleung]

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[lio45]

So true

[New Brisavoine]

Originally Posted by lio45

So true

You're 5-6 years late. Now it's "en mode" all the time. It's driving me totally NUTS!! This afternoon I even heard some (youngish, chic, female) white-collars using "en mode" during lunch break in the most prestigious part of the central business district of Paris. So it's not confined to teenage speak anymore.

[dreambrother808]

Originally Posted by lio45

So true

Does the Québécois version just replace “du coup” with “faque”?

[le calmar]

“En mode” was popular for people in their early to mid 20s 10 years ago. So yeah I imagine people pushing 40 are saying that now. Which I admit is bizarre.

[kwoldtimer]

Originally Posted by le calmar

“En mode” was popular for people in their early to mid 20s 10 years ago. So yeah I imagine people pushing 40 are saying that now. Which I admit is bizarre.

Somebody would have to walk me through both "du coup" and "en mode". What usage would be comparable in English (I thought "like" or "right", but they are used in a different way).

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by kwoldtimer

Somebody would have to walk me through both "du coup" and "en mode". What usage would be comparable in English (I thought "like" or "right", but they are used in a different way).

Maybe "y'know"?

[New Brisavoine]

Originally Posted by le calmar

“En mode” was popular for people in their early to mid 20s 10 years ago. So yeah I imagine people pushing 40 are saying that now. Which I admit is bizarre.

No. En mode was not popular 10 years ago here. It's a very recent fad that is most popular among high school students, but now also young professionals as I see. At my gym it's people in their 20s who use en mode all the time (like, uttered once every 3 sentences). People in their 40s certainly do not use it.

[Acajack]

"En mode" interchangeably with "du coup", or "en mode" as in:

"Je suis en mode recherche d'emploi".

"Je suis en mode bord de mer." (I want to head to the beach.)

"Je suis en mode fitness." (I want to get in shape.)

[New Brisavoine]

Originally Posted by kwoldtimer

Somebody would have to walk me through both "du coup" and "en mode". What usage would be comparable in English (I thought "like" or "right", but they are used in a different way).

Some examples seen online which are very typical:

"Et là je l'ai regardé en mode 'mais t'es sérieux ?!' et en fait il était vraiment sérieux."

"Oui je l'aime cette fille, en mode maintenant je pense au mariage et tout !"

"Il m'a répondu en mode gros psychopathe."

"Voici une photo de moi en mode complètement idiot."

But the way they use it now is even more extravagant. I'm going to the gym this evening, so as I'm sure I'll hear the guys there say "en mode" many times, I'll write down some examples I hear.

[le calmar]

Originally Posted by New Brisavoine

No. En mode was not popular 10 years ago here. It's a very recent fad that is most popular among high school students, but now also young professionals as I see. At my gym it's people in their 20s who use en mode all the time (like, uttered once every 3 sentences). People in their 40s certainly do not use it.

I am 100% sure people were saying “en mode” ten years ago. i.e. “j’étais en mode peinard”. Unless the meaning of the expression changed somehow?

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by New Brisavoine

Some examples seen online which are very typical:

"Et là je l'ai regardé en mode 'mais t'es sérieux ?!' et en fait il était vraiment sérieux."

"Oui je l'aime cette fille, en mode maintenant je pense au mariage et tout !"

"Il m'a répondu en mode gros psychopathe."

"Voici une photo de moi en mode complètement idiot."

But the way they use it now is even more extravagant. I'm going to the gym this evening, so as I'm sure I'll hear the guys there say "en mode" many times, I'll write down some examples I hear.

OK, that's exactly how I would use it, if I was a Parisien à la mode.

Actually, I do say it here sometimes, but only in very specific situations. It's not uncommon here either but not viral in every conversation (like "du coup" was in France).

About 2 years ago one of my kids had a significant other who was a French exchange student. In our family we used to tease this young person about using "du coup" all the time.

[kwoldtimer]

A bit like young kids/teenagers overuse the word "like" in English. I understand now.

[le calmar]

Originally Posted by New Brisavoine

Some examples seen online which are very typical:

"Et là je l'ai regardé en mode 'mais t'es sérieux ?!' et en fait il était vraiment sérieux."

"Oui je l'aime cette fille, en mode maintenant je pense au mariage et tout !"

"Il m'a répondu en mode gros psychopathe."

"Voici une photo de moi en mode complètement idiot."

But the way they use it now is even more extravagant. I'm going to the gym this evening, so as I'm sure I'll hear the guys there say "en mode" many times, I'll write down some examples I hear.

Ok your post just confirmed the meaning of the expression has remained the same. Youngsters were totally using this expression ten years ago, maybe just not as often.