Canadian Federal Election

[BlackDog204]

Originally Posted by P'tit Renard

You called out Acajack as a pro-Conservative. Clearly he's not (and neither is lio), but you're blinded by partisan zealotry and mis-labelled him as one.

Posting a random poll centering on Montreal island, the reddest fiefdom in all of Canada is a zany and nonsensical tangent worthy of a TruAnon fanatic.

OK there, sport....

[lio45]

Originally Posted by P'tit Renard

You called out Acajack as a pro-Conservative. Clearly he's not (and neither is lio), but you're blinded by partisan zealotry and mis-labelled him as one.

Posting a random poll centering on Montreal island, the reddest fiefdom in all of Canada is a zany and nonsensical tangent worthy of a TruAnon fanatic.

Carney isn’t known right now; the only things we know about the guy is that he’s got a great economic resume and he’s supposedly the best anti-Trump option. So of course he’s got a boost from being a blank canvas with only pros and no cons (at the moment).

It’s a temporary honeymoon phase.

Look at the results of the byelection last week in the vote-rich 450: would those voters elect someone who can’t speak? Maybe, as anything can happen (even really strange things, like in 2011), but it’s not that likely.

Poilievre’s core at ~35% seems much more solid than Carney’s.

[Wigs]

Canadian YouTuber David Doel (former Toronto AM radio host and video editor for CTV News Toronto) discusses the differences between Poilievre and Carney.

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[ToxiK]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

I think as far as Acajack is concerned, the lack of fluency in French is a deal breaker, and that Carney therefore should never have offered as Liberal leader. Only people with flawless French and no discernable accent need apply for the position.

I think as far as Anglophones are concerned, the lack of fluency in English is a deal breaker. Only people with flawless English and no discernable accent need apply for the position.

[Hackslack]

Originally Posted by BlackDog204

Soaring is incorrect. Poilievre's approval ratings have significantly dropped since the beginning of the year.

I said Popular vote, for Poilievre’s conservatives… not approval rating

[Wigs]

Originally Posted by lio45

Both options are awful, if the idea is our long-term survival.

You don't even vote! Also you'd love to be American

[P'tit Renard]

Originally Posted by lio45

Carney isn’t known right now; the only things we know about the guy is that he’s got a great economic resume and he’s supposedly the best anti-Trump option. So of course he’s got a boost from being a blank canvas with only pros and no cons (at the moment).

It’s a temporary honeymoon phase.

Look at the results of the byelection last week in the vote-rich 450: would those voters elect someone who can’t speak? Maybe, as anything can happen (even really strange things, like in 2011), but it’s not that likely.

Poilievre’s core at ~35% seems much more solid than Carney’s.

lio, your completely rational and logical analysis of the current situation is going to drive the TruAnon fanatics and self-proclaimed loud and proud Ford-Trudeau voters in this forum up the wall and into a state of hysteria and psychosis.

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by ToxiK

I think as far as Anglophones are concerned, the lack of fluency in English is a deal breaker. Only people with flawless English and no discernable accent need apply for the position.

Jean Chretien?

He seems to have a pretty solid reputation and legacy, even in darkest anglo-Canada.........

[lio45]

Originally Posted by Acajack

OK, sure.

Yeah lol

My track record is very good and so is yours.

For Travis’ info, last federal election some Quebec ridings were won with winners in the 20% range in five-way races. The winner-takes-all result at the provincial scale is nearly impossible to predict. The LPC has a solid base of 15-20 seats and they’re indeed lucky to get more these days any time they do get more (thanks mostly to vote splits). Ask the PLQ about it if you don’t want to take my word

[lio45]

Originally Posted by Wigs

You don't even vote! Also you'd love to be American

I might actually vote this time, if I’m near my riding at the time.

[MolsonExport]

Originally Posted by Calgarian

Poilievre's refusal to get security clearance is a big reason I don't trust him. This isn't the Liberals trying to muzzle you, it's your damn job to know secrets if you want to be PM.

What exactly is the reason why he is dragging his heels so damned slowly on this? I don't think there are any major skeletons in PP's closet (aside from maybe having a Maple MAGA costume in case he gets invited to join Smith, O'Leary, and Gretzky for dinner down at Mar-a-Lardo).


So what gives? He needs to get this done, so what's the reason for the holdup? Is he worried about his wife's sister's cousin's best-friend's father's neighbour relationship to Ghislaine Maxwell, or something?

[Calgarian]

Originally Posted by MolsonExport

What exactly is the reason why he is dragging his heels so damned slowly on this? I don't think there are any major skeletons in PP's closet (aside from maybe having a Maple MAGA costume in case he gets invited to join Smith, O'Leary, and Gretzky for dinner down at Mar-a-Lardo).


So what gives? He needs to get this done, so what's the reason for the holdup? Is he worried about his wife's sister's cousin's best-friend's father's neighbour relationship to Ghislaine Maxwell, or something?

He says he doesn't want to be muzzled, but not knowing the information in the first place gives him nothing to say anyway. It's really bizarre, somehow he thinks he can blame Trudeau and the Libs for the foreign interference affecting his party?

[MolsonExport]

Originally Posted by lio45

Both options are awful, if the idea is our long-term survival.

yawn. So maybe you and your other half Acajack need to stop spending your days interacting in English (on this thread and in your own lives). Stop blaming Canada for the so-called "inevitable plight" of the Quebecois, and do something besides endlessly complaining. The security of French in Quebec is stronger now than it was right from confederation all the way through until the present time. This is not disputable. The prevalence of English in Quebec has declined, rather dramatically, since the 1960s.

And like others have said, when 99% of your posts are anti-Liberal or right wing/conservative, colour me surprised if you guys aren't really conservative, despite your protestations to the contrary. I really don't care either way, but cut the baloney and pearl-clutching.

You've labelled me an enemy of Quebec, which is completely unfounded. But you are on record as abetting the enemies of Canada (as one of the biggest Trumpeteers on this website).

[MolsonExport]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

Jean Chretien?

He seems to have a pretty solid reputation and legacy, even in darkest anglo-Canada.........

Stephane Dion was very articulate when he had the time to write things out, but his spoken English was atrocious.

Pauline Marois, former Premier of Quebec, couldn't speak English.

Clearly Mark Carney needs to work a lot more on his French, regardless.

[BlackDog204]

Originally Posted by Hackslack

I said Popular vote, for Poilievre’s conservatives… not approval rating

Well if you want to go by that metric, the Conservative are definitely NOT soaring. I came across a poll where they were up 48-19 in early January. Just over two months later, they are trailing 44-38. Not only have they floundered a 29-point lead, but they have also lost 10 percentage points. How on Earth is that "soaring?"

[Wigs]

Originally Posted by lio45

I might actually vote this time, if I’m near my riding at the time.

Apply to vote by mail.
No friggin excuses, Lio OR any other forumer that constantly posts and doesn't exercise their civic duty as a Canadian.

https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?section=vot&dir=reg/svr&document=page-b&lang=e

[ToxiK]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

Jean Chretien?

He seems to have a pretty solid reputation and legacy, even in darkest anglo-Canada.........

He was as bad in French as in English, and in both cases it was on purpose to look like the perennial underdog. Also, he could blame his speech problems on Bell's palsy, which made him politically unattackable on that front. The conservative tried one publicity campaign on that topic and it backfired royally.

Try a candidate for prime minister (or governor general) that speaks great French but barely any English and see how much the ROC will suddenly care about language...

But when it is Francophones who have a problem, it is merely whining...

[YOWetal]

Originally Posted by ToxiK

He was as bad in French as in English, and in both cases it was on purpose to look like the perennial underdog. Also, he could blame his speech problems on Bell's palsy, which made him politically unattackable on that front. The conservative tried one publicity campaign on that topic and it backfired royally.

Try a candidate for prime minister (or governor general) that speaks great French but barely any English and see how much the ROC will suddenly care about language...

But when it is Francophones who have a problem, it is merely whining...

Dion was pretty weak. Anglos didn't care but unlike French Canada they didn't give any allowance for his language skills when evaluating the ideas in speeches and debates.

[BlackDog204]

Originally Posted by Calgarian

He says he doesn't want to be muzzled, but not knowing the information in the first place gives him nothing to say anyway. It's really bizarre, somehow he thinks he can blame Trudeau and the Libs for the foreign interference affecting his party?

The odds are that he is compromised in some way, most likely by India, and possibly by other hostile nations towards Canada (Russia, USA, etc). There is no legitimate reason to avoid a security clearance.

[Truenorth00]

Originally Posted by ToxiK

I think as far as Anglophones are concerned, the lack of fluency in English is a deal breaker. Only people with flawless English and no discernable accent need apply for the position.

Doubtful. MPs with accents get elected all the time. Some get cabinet posts. Especially provincially. I think there's even more tolerance among anglophones for Francophone leaders who may have worse English and heavy accents. As long as they can be understood, most people are just fine.

I think folks like yourself are projecting your own linguistic concerns and imagining that Anglophones think the same way. But language isn't some culture war touchpoint for Anglophones, the way it is for Francophones.

And there's an obvious cultural double standard. I guarantee you that most Anglophones would be far more tolerant of a Quebecer with an accent and worse grammar than they would say a newly naturalized Indo-Canadian. Who do you think would fare better with the average anglophone voter Chretien/Dion group or a guy that sounds like Apu from the Simpsons? I would put my money on the former. Even in the 905!