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View Poll Results: Who has the more positive vision for Canada's future?
Mark Carney's Liberals 176 73.95%
Pierre Poilievre's Conservatives 62 26.05%
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Old Posted Mar 23, 2025, 12:27 PM
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Interesting difference between the CPC and LPC GST cut from new home construction:

The CPC would cut it for all new construction.

The LPC would cut it for new construction purchased by first time home buyers.

Not sure which policy is the better one. Two of the more reasonable personalities that I follow and find credible on social media seem to have contrasting opinions on this as well.

Mike Moffatt seems to think the LPC plan would drive demand without increasing supply, whereas Jon Pasalis seems happier with the LPC plan arguing that it will be more likely to force developers to start selling product that actually appeals to the end use instead of the real estate investor.



Explains a lot.
I suspect that the CPC plan would have the price difference just eaten up by the developers and not make a significant dent in housing affordability. The market is priced to what people can afford in theory, after all, and cutting the GST doesn't really change that equation. Targeting first-time home buyers, however, will limit the ability for developers to eat up the difference as they would then be pricing out other buyers.

I suppose that does lend credibility to Mike Moffatt's argument. A cut in GST for all new construction would massively incentivize construction as the margin would go up considerably. Arguably, overall housing prices should come down as well for non-new build housing.

Jon Pasalis is also right. A lot of new build construction on the lower end of the market is targeted toward investment buyers and is not really suited to new homeowners. The CPC plan would likely only exacerbate this issue, especially as we look at a possible recession where investors would be ready to snap up a relatively safe bargain. Is a tonne of new supply that is eaten up by investors going to help? But will the LPC plan add enough supply?

It's not at all clear to me.
     
     
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Interesting difference between the CPC and LPC GST cut from new home construction:

The CPC would cut it for all new construction.

The LPC would cut it for new construction purchased by first time home buyers.

Not sure which policy is the better one. Two of the more reasonable personalities that I follow and find credible on social media seem to have contrasting opinions on this as well.

Mike Moffatt seems to think the LPC plan would drive demand without increasing supply, whereas Jon Pasalis seems happier with the LPC plan arguing that it will be more likely to force developers to start selling product that actually appeals to the end use instead of the real estate investor.



Explains a lot.
Would both plans not drive demand without increasing supply?
     
     
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As much as I'd prefer not to see Mr Poilievre as PM, let's not jump the gun. The election has not even been called yet and there's a long way to go. (Thankfully, not as excruciatingly long as our southern neighbours go through.))
Ive been saying this. The outcome of this election is not known. Partisans may argue otherwise. But what we have at this point in the game is two parties that both have a solid shot at forming government. We have a horse race. The LPC is currently favoured, but they aren't leading by an astronomical amount. A 5-7 point shift to the CPC in ON would tilt the election to a CPC minority.

So lots can and will happen over the next 5 weeks. I'm actually excited to see how this plays out.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 23, 2025, 1:15 PM
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Yes. No one in Quebec who isn’t already a die-hard Liberal voter in western Montreal or the Outaouais who would vote for a red lawn chair actually cares about those things.
That video wasn't for Quebec. It was aimed at English speaking Gen X Canadians. It's already at 5 million+ views on X alone in 16 hours. I'm sure it's gotten millions more on Instagram and Facebook.

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The Canadian people have seen this, and made their decision. Liberal majority. Poilievre can go back to the rock he crawled from. Hate-filled rage may work in America, but not here. It's better to build bridges, than to burn them.
What bridges have you built with conservative leaning voters?
     
     
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Myers should do one of Trump as Fat Bastard threatening Canadians to get in his belly with ‘mini-me’ PP.
"Mr" Prime Minister - he really does live in the USA.
     
     
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I cringe every time I have to watch one of those Poilievre ads where he robotically parrots Winston Churchill.

And I still see the Carbon Tax Carney ads everywhere.
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Traitor Danielle Smith, doing an interview with right wing Breitbart News. These last two paragraphs stuck out to me:

“Let’s have the best person at the table make the argument… and I think that’s Pierre Poilievre, and I do agree with you that… if we do have Pierre as our prime minister, then I think that there’s a number of things that we could do together,” Smith detailed. “Pierre believes in development. He believes in low-cost energy. He believes that we need to have low taxes, doesn’t believe in any of the woke stuff that we’ve seen taking over our politics for the last five years.

“So I would think that there’d be, there’s probably still always going to be areas that are skirmishes or disputes about particular industries when it comes to the border, but I would say, on balance, the perspective that Pierre would bring would be very much in sync with, I think…the new direction in America,” she added. “And I think we’d have a really great relationship for the period of time they’re both in.”


https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/...f-negotiations-first-mar-a-lago-meeting/

Sounds like she's selling us out to the Americans, claiming PP would make Canada similar to Trumps America.
Danielle Smith avoided the First Ministers where they were putting Canada first to sit down and instead did this interview at the same time?

Is this not foreign-interference? Treason?

When is her lovefest with Ben Shapiro and the others happening?

We have never seen a Premier in our history sell us out to a hostile actor (the US administration is such now) to compromise a Canadian election and sovereignty.

Pierre has not spoken about the comments - he is orchestrating and helping with this.

She represents Alberta - Albertans know what to do.
     
     
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An endorsement from Vidkun Smith is hardly going to help Polyester at this point.
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Danielle Smith avoided the First Ministers where they were putting Canada first to sit down and instead did this interview at the same time?

Is this not foreign-interference? Treason?

When is her lovefest with Ben Shapiro and the others happening?

We have never seen a Premier in our history sell us out to a hostile actor (the US administration is such now) to compromise a Canadian election and sovereignty.

Pierre has not spoken about the comments - he is orchestrating and helping with this.

She represents Alberta - Albertans know what to do.
I don't agree with her position, but no, it is not.
     
     
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I don't agree with her position, but no, it is not.
A Cdn telling the US administration to stop / pause until after the election to be able to help the individual that is more aligned with their goals isn't interference?

"...the perspective that Pierre would bring would be very much in sync with, I think…the new direction in America."

Just WOW... if a Liberal premier or the premier of Quebec did this... the Conservatives would never let it go. The double standard is beyond words... they would sell us out for the 51st at the first instance.
     
     
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Danielle Smith avoided the First Ministers where they were putting Canada first to sit down and instead did this interview at the same time?

Is this not foreign-interference? Treason?

When is her lovefest with Ben Shapiro and the others happening?

We have never seen a Premier in our history sell us out to a hostile actor (the US administration is such now) to compromise a Canadian election and sovereignty.

Pierre has not spoken about the comments - he is orchestrating and helping with this.

She represents Alberta - Albertans know what to do.
Were the liberals putting Canada first when Trudeau was hanging out with Chinese communist party members who were buying $1000 a plate dinners at liberal party fundraisers, while bussing Chinese high school students to rig candidate elections? While Chinese business men were funnelling money into the prime ministers family foundation?

Were they putting Canada first when doubling the length of foodbank lines?
Or when they increased the cost of housing so ridiculously tent cities started to pop up in every major city in Canada. Or when they increased the population so much that led to increasing wait times and adding extra stress to healthcare workers. And worse treatment outcomes. Over 15,000 people died last year waiting for access to treatment. But without data from several provinces the number is probably closer to 30,000.

30,000 people across Canada died waiting for care. Fucking liberals.
     
     
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Were the liberals putting Canada first when Trudeau was hanging out with Chinese communist party members who were buying $1000 a plate dinners at liberal party fundraisers, while bussing Chinese high school students to rig candidate elections? While Chinese business men were funnelling money into the prime ministers family foundation?

Were they putting Canada first when doubling the length of foodbank lines?
Or when they increased the cost of housing so ridiculously tent cities started to pop up in every major city in Canada. Or when they increased the population so much that led to increasing wait times and adding extra stress to healthcare workers. And worse treatment outcomes. Over 15,000 people died last year waiting for access to treatment. But without data from several provinces the number is probably closer to 30,000.

30,000 people across Canada died waiting for care. Fucking liberals.
Nothing to address or condone Danielle Smith? Silence says enough.
     
     
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PP calling an 11:30am press conference to try and extinguish the Danielle Smith mess. A great way to start the campaign!
     
     
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Nothing to address or condone Danielle Smith? Silence says enough.
Why the fuck would I care about Alberta’s premier, she has nothing to do with me. But I will say this at least she stands up for her province. Trying to get the product to market that has basically paid for your current standard of living.

Maybe she wouldn’t have to go to the states if the liberals here weren’t constantly using Alberta profits to fund eastern Canadas ideological bullshit.
     
     
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Nothing to address or condone Danielle Smith? Silence says enough.
Nothing to say about 30,000 dead Canadians… or Chinese election interference…. silence says enough
     
     
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Eastern Canada is still content on blocking a pipeline, so the only other way to go is south..

Liberal supporters

“ why is she talking to the evil orange man”’???

2+2 is 4, 2+2 is 4
     
     
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PP calling an 11:30am press conference to try and extinguish the Danielle Smith mess. A great way to start the campaign!
It's wild to me that Smith is so incredibly incompetent that she doesn't understand that her comments are likely to do extreme damage to Poilievre's campaign.

If her intentions weren't so transparent I would assume it's intentional sabotage, but it's literally just her being a dumbass.
     
     
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An endorsement from Vidkun Smith is hardly going to help Polyester at this point.
I think Poilievre might be cursing Smith now lol! Especially after he tried reaching out to Ford for help and was told he was too busy running his province.

Smith’s sovereignty threat is borderline election interference but I think it will backfire. Every other province hates her and votes for the Liberals might even go up out of spite. Worst Premier in our history. Jason Kenney was better by a mile, and he was the previous title holder. She’ll try some BS to extort the rest of the country, but if she called an actual referendum it would fail. Nenshi even called her bluff and said she should get it over with and resign if it fails.
     
     
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Were the liberals putting Canada first when Trudeau was hanging out with Chinese communist party members who were buying $1000 a plate dinners at liberal party fundraisers, while bussing Chinese high school students to rig candidate elections? While Chinese business men were funnelling money into the prime ministers family foundation?

Were they putting Canada first when doubling the length of foodbank lines?
Or when they increased the cost of housing so ridiculously tent cities started to pop up in every major city in Canada. Or when they increased the population so much that led to increasing wait times and adding extra stress to healthcare workers. And worse treatment outcomes. Over 15,000 people died last year waiting for access to treatment. But without data from several provinces the number is probably closer to 30,000.

30,000 people across Canada died waiting for care. Fucking liberals.
In Alberta the ones starving our universal healthcare system are conservatives who just got caught shuffling millions in above market profits to private surgery facilities. Smith is proudly dismantling AHS. They privatized labs, the company doing it went bankrupt in 90 days cause they thought they could underpay previously non unionized staff and was eventually bought back by AHS for a hefty sum. No money saved. Money wasted.
     
     
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