Quebec, the French Language, and Quebecois Identity

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by kwoldtimer

Hardly painful - it's much better than the Anglo-Canadian average. Some of the seeming hesitancy comes from the way he speaks in 3-4 word "bites". He does the same in English.

Yes, you are correct to point this out. He is not exactly the most engaging speaker in English either.

Being that way to begin with, and speaking in one's second language you haven't practised much, only exacerbates things.

[P'tit Renard]

Originally Posted by kwoldtimer

Hardly painful - it's much better than the Anglo-Canadian average. Some of the seeming hesitancy comes from the way he speaks in 3-4 word "bites". He does the same in English.

The Anglo-Canadian average is literally nada, which IMO is a ridiculously low bar.

[kwoldtimer]

Originally Posted by P'tit Renard

The Anglo-Canadian average is literally nada, which IMO is a ridiculously low bar.

Just keeping it real.

[P'tit Renard]

Originally Posted by kwoldtimer

Just keeping it real.

A more realistic bar is comparing his French proficiency to recent graduates of French Immersion programs in Ontario, given the importance of French for the role of Canadian PM?

[harls]

Not sure anyone, including the Québécois, gives a rat's ass about the Prime Minister's French speaking abilities right now.

Maybe some guy from France does.

[P'tit Renard]

Originally Posted by harls

Not sure anyone, including the Québécois, give a rat's ass about the Prime Minister's French speaking abilities.

Maybe some guy from France does.

Plenty of Québécois do care, and I live with one who does.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by P'tit Renard

The Anglo-Canadian average is literally nada, which IMO is a ridiculously low bar.

For the Prime Minister of Canada, it definitely is.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by harls

Not sure anyone, including the Québécois, gives a rat's ass about the Prime Minister's French speaking abilities.

Maybe some guy from France does.

I also beg to differ, but I guess we'll soon see how much of a deal-breaker that will be in an real electoral contest.

[kwoldtimer]

Folks are always free to vote for candidates of the party who's leader's official language abilities they prefer.

[harls]

Originally Posted by P'tit Renard

Plenty of Québécois do care, and I live with one who does.

So do I, in Québec.

[theman23]

Hmm nvm

[mousquet]

I think a Canadian PM should be bilingual, just to set a proper role model to every Canadian citizen.
It is a great thing to be bilingual, eh. it is a luck to make your brain more flexible and gives you a broader access to various cultures.
Who wouldn't be proud of their kids when they could speak both French and English fluently? Frankly, they'd be rather stupid not to be so.

Plus, it makes it easier to learn about more languages. Spanish for instance, that's not too hard when you're fluent in French.

Knowledge is always better than ignorance. Since American bashing has been in trend lately, I must say, often the Americans seem a little naive because they're dummies at foreign languages.
Although I personally met some of them whose French was better than my English, and I was astonished and felt ashamed, lol.

[harls]

Originally Posted by theman23

Hmm nvm

No please.. I want to know..

[Acajack]

If Québec were on its own it would be in 6th place worldwide.

Canada with Québec is 18th.

Canada-sans-Québec would slip to 29th place, five spots behind the US.

https://www.lapresse.ca/dialogue/chr...source%253Dlpp

[harls]

Originally Posted by mousquet

I think a Canadian PM should be bilingual, just to set a proper role model to every Canadian citizen.
It is a great thing to be bilingual, eh. it is a luck to make your brain more flexible and gives you a broader access to various cultures.
Who wouldn't be proud of their kids when they could speak both French and English fluently? Frankly, they'd be rather stupid not to be so.

Plus, it makes it easier to learn about more languages. Spanish for instance, that's not too hard when you're fluent in French.

Knowledge is always better than ignorance. Since American bashing has been in trend lately, I must say, often the Americans seem a little naive because they're dummies at foreign languages.
Although I personally met some of them whose French was better than my English, and I was astonished and felt ashamed, lol.

[lio45]

Originally Posted by Acajack

I also beg to differ, but I guess we'll soon see how much of a deal-breaker that will be in an real electoral contest.

Same here.

Carney will win the “red mailbox” ridings in Quebec, but as we get to know him a bit more, I’d be surprised if he can pull off a Layton or JT level result.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by lio45

Same here.

Carney will win the “red mailbox” ridings in Quebec, but as we get to know him a bit more, I’d be surprised if he can pull off a Layton or JT level result.

One does never know, though. These are strange and unique times.

[theman23]

Originally Posted by harls

No please.. I want to know..

The wording of your last post was confusing. I misread it as saying your spouse/partner also cared about the French language abilities of our Prime Minister.

[harls]

You two guys might disappear from the internet if that happens. God forbid.

[harls]

Originally Posted by theman23

The wording of your last post was confusing. I misread it as saying your spouse/partner also cared about the French language abilities of our Prime Minister.

Nah, she doesn't give much of a fuck. And she's from Abitibi.