BC Political Discussion: Election 2024 & 43rd Parliament - Page 53

whatnext · #**1041** Posted **Feb 14, 2025, 6:42 PM**

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Is it? I'm sure they'd rather no Trump and printing those $1000 checks. Such a weird take.

It was a desperate vote-buying tactic by Eby when he realized he might actually lose to Rustad. I'm sure he's very relieved he doesn't have to honour it.

Sheba · #**1042** Posted **Feb 21, 2025, 6:38 PM**

In news that should surprise no one - B.C. government to help grow province’s agriculture, food processing sectors

whatnext · #**1043** Posted **Mar 8, 2025, 3:29 AM**

Buh bye BC Conservative Party?

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Second and third BC Conservative MLAs jump ship Friday; is the party sinking?

Posted March 7, 2025 5:34 pm.
Last Updated March 7, 2025 6:42 pm.
The party that was just a couple dozen votes away from forming the B.C. government in the last election could be crumbling.

Just hours after BC Conservative Party leader John Rustad expelled Vancouver MLA Dallas Brodie for comments about residential schools, two more MLAs have up and left.

Peace River North MLA Jordan Kealy announced Friday afternoon he was leaving the party. Just a couple hours later, Kelowna-Lake Country-Coldstream Tara Armstrong also announced she was leaving….

https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2025/03/07/bc-conservative-second-mla-jordan-kealy-out/

jollyburger · #**1044** Posted **Mar 8, 2025, 3:32 AM**

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Originally Posted by whatnext

Buh bye BC Conservative Party?

UPDATED

Second and third BC Conservative MLAs jump ship Friday; is the party sinking?

Posted March 7, 2025 5:34 pm.
Last Updated March 7, 2025 6:42 pm.
The party that was just a couple dozen votes away from forming the B.C. government in the last election could be crumbling.

Just hours after BC Conservative Party leader John Rustad expelled Vancouver MLA Dallas Brodie for comments about residential schools, two more MLAs have up and left.

Peace River North MLA Jordan Kealy announced Friday afternoon he was leaving the party. Just a couple hours later, Kelowna-Lake Country-Coldstream Tara Armstrong also announced she was leaving….

https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2025/03/07/bc-conservative-second-mla-jordan-kealy-out/

Making them more mainstream by kicking out fringe members is a bad thing?

whatnext · #**1045** Posted **Mar 8, 2025, 4:13 AM**

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Originally Posted by jollyburger

Making them more mainstream by kicking out fringe members is a bad thing?

No but on the other hand if the go back to the old Liberal/Reform split they won’t win government.

Tvisforme · #**1046** Posted **Mar 8, 2025, 6:04 AM**

Brodie and Kealy are among the five BCC members who voted against the NDP motion condemning Trump's tariffs. Apparently Kealy is looking to start a new political party:

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According to the Canadian Press, Kealy said he will inform the Speaker on Monday that he intends to form a separate caucus, saying it only takes two members to be recognized as a party in the British Columbia Legislature, and he knows "for a fact there's going to be more people."

CBC: 2 MLAs defect from B.C. Conservative Party following Dallas Brodie's ouster

seamusmcduff · #**1047** Posted **Mar 8, 2025, 7:47 AM**

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Originally Posted by whatnext

No but on the other hand if the go back to the old Liberal/Reform split they won’t win government.

It wouldn't really be that split anymore though. It would be Reform and even more right than Reform. Just because people are splitting off doesn't mean Rustad is going to move to a moderate position and suddenly start believing in climate change or vaccines or whatever.

Migrant_Coconut · #**1048** Posted **Mar 8, 2025, 9:50 AM**

OTOH losing the 2028 election practically guarantees that Rustad's not party leader anymore. We're already seeing a civil war between the ex-Libs and the lizard people.

whatnext · #**1049** Posted **Mar 14, 2025, 11:24 PM**

Woohoo!

B.C. preparing legislation to eliminate carbon tax, Eby says
By Todd Coyne
Published: March 14, 2025 at 5:29PM EDT

British Columbia Premier David Eby says his government is preparing legislation to remove the province’s consumer-based carbon tax.

The plan to kill consumer carbon pricing was announced immediately after newly sworn-in Prime Minister Mark Carney signed an order-in-council to end the federal requirement for the tax effective April 1.

“People in B.C. are doing everything they can to fight climate change,” Eby said in a statement.

“But we don’t want people to have to choose between affordability and climate action. That’s why we made the commitment last year to get rid of the consumer carbon tax at the first opportunity if the federal government removes the national carbon tax requirement.”

The premier said the legislation to repeal the B.C. carbon price will be introduced during the current legislative session.

“As that work is underway, B.C. is also readying legislation to eliminate the scheduled increase to the carbon tax that would otherwise have occurred on April 1,” Eby said...

https://www.ctvnews.ca/vancouver/article/bc-poised-to-remove-consumer-carbon-tax-eby-says/

seamusmcduff · #**1050** Posted **Mar 15, 2025, 12:05 AM**

Boo. The carbon tax in BC has been implemented successfully for like 15 years before it became a political hot potato. For most people it has resulted in a lower effective tax rate every year

Migrant_Coconut · #**1051** Posted **Mar 15, 2025, 3:04 AM**

IIRC Eby wants to swap it out with a new tax that goes straight after the big polluters and skips everybody else (many of whom get some of it back in rebates anyway).

WarrenC12 · #**1052** Posted **Mar 15, 2025, 10:53 PM**

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Originally Posted by whatnext

Woohoo!

Are you a climate change denier? Don't care? Or just hate progressive taxation?

WarrenC12 · #**1053** Posted **Mar 15, 2025, 10:54 PM**

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Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

IIRC Eby wants to swap it out with a new tax that goes straight after the big polluters and skips everybody else (many of whom get some of it back in rebates anyway).

This seems like a very populist angle. What is a "big polluter"? And how are they taxed?

Migrant_Coconut · #**1054** Posted **Mar 15, 2025, 11:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by WarrenC12

This seems like a very populist angle. What is a "big polluter"? And how are they taxed?

These guys, probably.

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Spectra Energy’s Pine River gas plant in northeast B.C. is far and away the province’s biggest single emitter of major air pollutants, according to a Vancouver Sun analysis of Environment Canada’s annual national pollutant release inventory.

The Chetwynd-area plant reported 12,021 tonnes of major air pollutants in 2013 — more than twice its closest industrial competitor, Rio Tinto Alcan aluminum smelter in Kitimat, at 5,820 tonnes...

... Spectra’s McMahon gas plant in Taylor ranks seventh on the air-pollution list at 3,043 tonnes and its Fort Nelson gas plant 11th at 2,716 tonnes.

In Metro Vancouver, the biggest air polluter is the Delta cement plant of Lehigh Hanson Materials Ltd. at 2,216 tonnes — 90 per cent of that is nitrogen oxides. Lehigh Hanson, whose parent company is HeidelbergCement, is on a shortlist to use its cement kiln as a waste-to-energy facility for Metro Vancouver...

... Chevron Canada’s Burnaby refinery emitted 852 tonnes of major air pollutants, Metro Vancouver’s waste-to-energy facility in Burnaby at 698 tonnes, Burrard Products Terminal (Suncor Energy Products Partnership) in Port Moody, 391 tonnes, and Richmond Plywood Operations, 113 tonnes...

Pollution pricing is a thing. Whether or not it's enough to make up the hole in the budget remains to be seen.

jollyburger · #**1055** Posted **Mar 15, 2025, 11:43 PM**

Oil & gas is probably still the largest emitter combined but I think Teck is the largest company?

whatnext · #**1056** Posted **Mar 16, 2025, 12:07 AM**

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Are you a climate change denier? Don't care? Or just hate progressive taxation?

I’m against owners of swastikars paying nothing toward transit while ICE vehicle owners are being soaked for it.

Changing City · #**1057** Posted **Mar 16, 2025, 2:42 AM**

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I’m against owners of swastikars paying nothing toward transit while ICE vehicle owners are being soaked for it.

So we've had the BC carbon tax for 17 years, and all that time you thought it was paying for transit?

chowhou · #**1058** Posted **Mar 16, 2025, 2:44 AM**

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Originally Posted by whatnext

I’m against owners of swastikars paying nothing toward transit while ICE vehicle owners are being soaked for it.

I think you're going to be very disappointed once you learn that the Translink gas tax isn't being removed.

casper · #**1059** Posted **Mar 16, 2025, 6:42 AM**

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Originally Posted by seamusmcduff

Boo. The carbon tax in BC has been implemented successfully for like 15 years before it became a political hot potato. For most people it has resulted in a lower effective tax rate every year

I have mixed felling on it. I don't think it was a major impact for most people. But it was divisive.

Keeping it on industry should be the key goal.

BaddieB · #**1060** Posted **Mar 16, 2025, 7:28 AM**

Remember that BC's Carbon Tax system gives it the lowest income taxes of any province (under $150k). I'd rather pollution be taxed than work.