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Old Posted Mar 11, 2025, 3:43 PM
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Toronto Theme x FIFA World Cup 26
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXb12VPIsfw

Vancouver Theme x FIFA World Cup 26
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzxMJX0HCaU

These are pretty bad, typical FIFA. I checked the other host cities' videos as well, and all are pretty amateurish. Mexico City might be the best.
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Old Posted Mar 11, 2025, 5:11 PM
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Old Posted Mar 11, 2025, 5:32 PM
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Perhaps a bit reminiscent of Av 9 de Julio? Not a lot, but maybe a tiny bit?

Ummm....no.

I've been on Av 9 de Julio. Nothing in Canada is like that.

How's it going? I've been tardy in watching your video drops. I'll get on that.
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Old Posted Mar 12, 2025, 1:28 AM
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I'm surprised that's the part that stuck in your mind.
I'm never surprised at what gets stuck in my mind these days.
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Ummm....no.

I've been on Av 9 de Julio. Nothing in Canada is like that.

How's it going? I've been tardy in watching your video drops. I'll get on that.
Okay, it was a stretch. And thanks for watching. I've lately gotten airplay on a college radio station in Ireland. Very thrilling. (this is off topic!)
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Old Posted Mar 12, 2025, 8:07 PM
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Old Posted Mar 12, 2025, 8:16 PM
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I don't think we can say "cramped is cramped" as a universal. It really is relative to the person and situation. It depends on how many people live there, how much time they spend at home (do they work from home or just sleep there?), what they use the home for, and their personality. There are lots of cases when it's silly for someone to have a larger home if they spend most of their time out and only use the place to shower and sleep or watch TV.
I get your point and I don't know what these Kitchener units are like but a lot of newer developments are just objectively awful. Bad layout, compromised features, poor quality, dark and prison-like (even sometimes in shockingly high end buildings). And because prices are so high a lot of people are not getting what they want. The average young family in Canada can't comfortably afford a decent-sized unit in an average Canadian city right now.

We can also say on a high level that some of these Canadian neighbourhoods are obviously not like the kind of urban areas where traditionally it's expected that you'll have to make a compromise, like Tokyo or Paris or even downtown Toronto or Vancouver. Those Kitchener buildings are car dependent and surrounded by low density housing and a graveyard. It is not like cases where you accept a smaller kitchen because you have 200 restaurants within a 10 minute walk (and anyway these restaurants are charging 1.5-2x what they did a few years ago). Canada is increasingly exhibiting the worst of both worlds; Euro quality apartments in North American quality neighbourhoods.
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Old Posted Mar 12, 2025, 8:36 PM
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Oh for sure housing prices are still way too high relative to incomes. No argument there.
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Old Posted Mar 12, 2025, 9:32 PM
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The inside looks just as bad. It's cramped although not as cramped as other units in the GTA. Cramped is cramped. It's really cheap looking. The least the developer could do is recessed lighting and pendants over the island than bulk 3 dollar light throughout the main floor. $710,000 for this in suburban Kitchener is fucked up.
I don't defend the look, but just to note that it's about two blocks from the middle of the Uptown - Downtown spine along King St (and the LRT stop).
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Ummm....no.

I've been on Av 9 de Julio. Nothing in Canada is like that.

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I am very familiar with Avenida 9 de Julio. It is surprisingly walkable and pleasant, when you consider how many traffic lanes it has.
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Old Posted Mar 13, 2025, 2:13 AM
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Old Posted Mar 13, 2025, 2:33 AM
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Old Posted Mar 13, 2025, 2:05 PM
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I don't think we can say "cramped is cramped" as a universal. It really is relative to the person and situation. It depends on how many people live there, how much time they spend at home (do they work from home or just sleep there?), what they use the home for, and their personality. There are lots of cases when it's silly for someone to have a larger home if they spend most of their time out and only use the place to shower and sleep or watch TV.

But I agree about the site. There's enough space there to provide those townhouses with a nice backyard with room for a little garden and everything. But instead it's a bunch of pavement.
It's my opinion having lived in modest but still functional Toronto area homes that these bedrooms, the breakfast nook, the living room is functionally cramped. These modest prewar Toronto area homes built for worker families are now elitist as Toronto drives to catch Lagos is just plain sad.

This is the standard of 80 to 90% of the hundreds of thousands of units that has been built over the course of the last decade in broader GTA. I don't know how many times that needs to be said until you get that's the problem. There is only one choice available for any given lifestyle which counters the basis of your defence of mediocrity to satisfying your desirable supply quotas. The other 10% to 20 are multi-million dollar McMansions.

Referring this to Euro housing is given the investor driven designs legitimacy. Europe is a continent. I certainly haven't covered every corner. However, from what I've seen, cramped spaces are not a driving force in housing. This is about layout more than square footage. 12 feet wide is just too narrow. Likewise, a 500 square foot ish one bedroom unit doesn't need a separate master suite. (this is probably dated as GTA units are much smaller than 10 years ago) I can't imagine squeezing in another bathroom in the 500 square foot condo I rented 20 years ago. It would have taking a small but very functional layout and turned into something only investors would find value in.
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Old Posted Mar 13, 2025, 5:12 PM
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It's my opinion having lived in modest but still functional Toronto area homes that these bedrooms, the breakfast nook, the living room is functionally cramped. These modest prewar Toronto area homes built for worker families are now elitist as Toronto drives to catch Lagos is just plain sad.

This is the standard of 80 to 90% of the hundreds of thousands of units that has been built over the course of the last decade in broader GTA. I don't know how many times that needs to be said until you get that's the problem. There is only one choice available for any given lifestyle which counters the basis of your defence of mediocrity to satisfying your desirable supply quotas. The other 10% to 20 are multi-million dollar McMansions.
Yes, the problem is that alternative options don't exist.The problem is NOT with what does exist, it's with what doesn't. That's what I've been saying for months. Or maybe years? I never disagreed that a lack of housing diversity is a problem. I want all kinds of housing diversity and have been very clear about that. I want townhouses, duplexes and multi-perplexes. I want small, medium, and large apartment buildings. I want to see large, medium, and small units and high, medium, and low prices. And I want all these diverse housing types to exist in diverse neighbourhood options ranging from downtown, large nodes and major streets all the way down to leafy residential areas. And i want diversity of land uses so that the vast majority of land isn't dominated by a single housing type. If anything, I want more housing diversity than you want.

So just complaining about the existence of smaller units is fallacious. It's like if you drive a diesel car and it's hard to find local fuel stations that offer anything but gasoline. The gasoline isn't the problem. The lack of diesel is the problem. So stop complaining about the existence of gasoline every time you see it being offered since its existence wouldn't be a problem if those who wanted diesel could get it. Yet you say the same thing about pretty much every new project - the units are all too small for your approval and it's all Lagos or some other third world comparison. Which implies that you don't just want other options to exist (which I 100% agree with) but that you want options you don't care for not to exist (which i vehemently disagree with).
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Old Posted Mar 13, 2025, 5:27 PM
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The problem is NOT with what does exist, it's with what doesn't.
No, part of the problem in some major markets in Canada (less so in the latest round of exploded real estate markets like Calgary and Halifax) is that we had too much easy money and so a lot of condo projects were built for investors rather than the people who would live in them. As a result of that, the quality of the units is poor and many people were kept off the housing ladder and in subpar housing. It is a very rough outcome that we had so much overallocation of money to real estate and it didn't even give us very good buildings in the end.
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Extremely similar architecture in Gatineau:

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Old Posted Mar 13, 2025, 5:34 PM
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I am very familiar with Avenida 9 de Julio. It is surprisingly walkable and pleasant, when you consider how many traffic lanes it has.
It is. Buenos Aires is a pretty special place. The taxi rides were pretty insane though.
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Old Posted Mar 13, 2025, 5:57 PM
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You make no — sense. That the units that have been built, an overabundance of investor driven floor plans that emphasize value/price over livability, is not a problem.

Again, investor driven floor plans that emphasize value over livability is not just about square footage. It should have been crystal clear with the brief examples I provided in my last post that this has more to do with the — layouts than the square footage. That extends to city planning in Toronto that is nearly ensconced in supply targets provided by specu-investors over neighbourhood planning policy. A community of 30 to 40 storey residential towers in suburbia is exacerbating the single use nature by adding 1000s of more residents in a autocentric hellhole. A commuter rail station within walking distance doesn't make it something else. It's even worse turning single family homes into 4 plex shoeboxes since the rail station isn't within walking distance.
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Old Posted Mar 13, 2025, 6:02 PM
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You make no — sense. That the units that have been built, an overabundance of investor driven floor plans that emphasize value/price over livability, is not a problem.
There's only so much capacity to build in the short to medium term (labour, zoned buildable floorspace) and as a result of investor dollars new supply shifted away from, say, purpose-built rentals and toward condo projects that could be presold quickly. The brownfield McMansions also tended to replace older more affordable housing stock.

The experience of renting from a investor-buyer in a strata/condo is worse too. I think the practice of selling bitcoin-like condos is probably just bad given our tax structure, regulations, and infrastructure. If you don't think the condo towers should go in suburbia that should make you even more concerned about the type of construction that does go in to areas with mixed use and good connectivity. That said, I don't disagree with you about towers in suburbia.
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Old Posted Mar 14, 2025, 12:15 AM
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Nice photography Rico but the graffiti just kills me, I guess I'm old school. Never used to be an issue here in Victoria but now like everywhere it's a thing.

Here's a nice Van skyline photo:


Skyline from Cypress Mountain by John Grantham, on Flickr

and a couple of sweet Kelowna skyline (and curling) videos from Anthony Urso who normally does Winnipeg drone work:

Kelowna Skyline 1

Kelowna 2
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