Tempe Development Thread

[soled]

Originally Posted by muertecaza

Developer is starting the public hearing/entitlement process for the First Congregational Church/House of Tricks lots. The sign makes clear they still plan to keep the main sanctuary of the church, but it's unclear to me if the plan is still to try to move the historic House of Tricks buildings or de-list them.



Also, here is the status of the new restaurant building at Hayden Ferry Lakeside. At long last I believe the site will be fully built out when this is complete:

Can you remind me which restaurant this will be, sir.

[ASU Diablo]

Originally Posted by soled

Can you remind me which restaurant this will be, sir.

Restaurant group is Pretty Decent Concepts.

https://www.abc15.com/news/business/new-...t-coming-to-tempes-hayden-ferry-lakeside

[Forrester1998]

No link available yet, but Skye Tempe submitted their build permit today, so that one looks like it will be starting soon. 2025 could end up being a big year for construction starts in downtown Tempe.

Something that I have wondered that is sort of a joke but also a bit real is whether the developers on these downtown projects just wait to start construction until some staging space opens up. With the construction on the ASU Mill Avenue dorms finishing up over the next couple of months, I wonder if Skye Tempe will lease the property at the SE corner of University and Myrtle for staging (formerly the ASU Tower Center, currently being used for staging for Mill Avenue dorm construction).

Lastly, wanted to ask: Is there a reason that major Tempe towers/projects don't get there own pages on here while the downtown Phoenix ones do? Is it just interesting level? I don't think theyre completely necessary but was wondering about that.

[soled]

Originally Posted by ASU Diablo

Restaurant group is Pretty Decent Concepts.

https://www.abc15.com/news/business/new-...t-coming-to-tempes-hayden-ferry-lakeside

Thank you, fellow Sun Devil

[muertecaza]

Originally Posted by Forrester1998

Lastly, wanted to ask: Is there a reason that major Tempe towers/projects don't get there own pages on here while the downtown Phoenix ones do? Is it just interesting level? I don't think theyre completely necessary but was wondering about that.

My sense is that there generally just have not been as many Tempe posters. There have been some separate threads for Tempe projects in the past--I made one for the big 3-tower Opus/Union project. I don't think there is any rule against it (unless mods correct me) so I'd say if there's a project for which you want to start one, go for it.

[ASU Diablo]

Originally Posted by soled

Thank you, fellow Sun Devil

[Obadno]

Originally Posted by ASU Diablo

Restaurant group is Pretty Decent Concepts.

https://www.abc15.com/news/business/new-...t-coming-to-tempes-hayden-ferry-lakeside

I always thought that little lot would be a great spot for a nice restaurant.

[Forrester1998]

Two updates for downtown Tempe developments today:

The 7th Street Residential development (House of Tricks/1st Congregational Church area etc) has begun applying for demo permits for some parts of the property, specifically at the SE corner of the property. It seems unusual that they are filing demo permits before getting entitlements but it looks like the city approved them. It looks like they do plan to relocate the historical structure on this portion of the site, although it doesn't say where it will go.

https://epermits.tempe.gov/CitizenAccess...33C&agencyCode=TEMPE&IsToShowInspection=
https://epermits.tempe.gov/CitizenAccess...33A&agencyCode=TEMPE&IsToShowInspection=

There is also a new PSPR for a 12 story hotel to be built within the NOVUS corridor. This is not surprising, but what IS somewhat surprising is the listed location. I was expecting to soon see something about a hotel getting built on the Parcel 3A plat next to all the restaurants that just opened, but this hotel isn't being planned for that spot. The address listed is 770 S. Novus Place which would put the hotel on the hard NW corner of University and Rural (Parcel 3Cs I believe) but this doesn't match the parcel number (13225049B) which would put this on Parcel 3Dn of the Novus development, next to the parking garage. Usually when there is a parcel/address discrepancy tha parcel is the accurate listing, but either way this would be big news as it would be a change in plans from office tower to hotel. This is also pretty tall for this area of Novus.

https://epermits.tempe.gov/CitizenAccess...330&agencyCode=TEMPE&IsToShowInspection=

This would be the second planned office tower that has changed plans to non-office use in recent weeks, with the 250 Riondevelopment filing a PSPR for a multifamily development at few weeks ago.

[ASU Diablo]

Originally Posted by ASU Diablo

Presentations from the Joint Review Committee regarding the Novus Parcel 3A Collective linked below. The 12-story, 184-key hotel with be a Marriott Autograph Collection hotel (think luxury). Additional renderings on the public space.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LyPnRe8WQpTFk-30OvMXdF7-kVoLRmv0/view?usp=share_link

Also, additional information regarding Parcel 5F. It's currently under a LOI so we may get some lake parcel activity soon. Looks like great height. Rio Yards Phase 2 is also getting some movement.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zwOoGuExG5a_FDQJgrgiJGmzVJgmpW79/view?usp=sharing

I was able to find my old post from April 2023.

Looks like the height still remains at 12-stories. Back then, the plan was under the Marriott Autograph Collection brand so something else to keep an eye on. I'm really curious to see if it's really not going to be built on Parcel 3A? If you see the PDF on my link above, the hotel is referenced as "780 Novus Hotel" so you may be onto something?

There's an upcoming JRC meeting on 3/5 w/ the following item on their agenda so hopefully get some answers soon:

- "NOVUS Corridor - Current and Future project updates"

[Forrester1998]

The parcel number listed for the project is definitely not Parcel 3A, and that would be a pretty unusual mistake to make. Addresses sometimes get funky for empty land but the parcel number is very clear. It is possible that it's somewhat easier to make this mistake for a developer who owns a bunch of parcels all next to each other (which is the case here). We will see though! Like you said it would be surprising for this to be outside of Parcel 3A. You can use the Maricopa County parcel viewer here:

https://maps.mcassessor.maricopa.gov

[ASU Diablo]

Originally Posted by Forrester1998

The parcel number listed for the project is definitely not Parcel 3A, and that would be a pretty unusual mistake to make. Addresses sometimes get funky for empty land but the parcel number is very clear. It is possible that it's somewhat easier to make this mistake for a developer who owns a bunch of parcels all next to each other (which is the case here). We will see though! Like you said it would be surprising for this to be outside of Parcel 3A. You can use the Maricopa County parcel viewer here:

https://maps.mcassessor.maricopa.gov

Looks like you were right and it appears the hotel will be going in Parcel 3DN (next to the parking garage). The brand still appears to be Marriott Autograph Collection.

I'll upload the deck later this evening when I get home. I was expecting more Novus related updates but the hotel was the main thing.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Q1gp-z8tFy1Rt-laCXP9gBqese-otl0_/view?usp=sharing

Novus 12-Story Hotel

[builder03]

The Devil's Advocate site has been completely cleared. Surprised how fast they demolished it. The U-haul facility is still standing but it looks like demo has begun there as well. Hopefully this means construction will follow shortly after demo is complete.

[azsunsurfer]

Originally Posted by ASU Diablo

Looks like you were right and it appears the hotel will be going in Parcel 3DN (next to the parking garage). The brand still appears to be Marriott Autograph Collection.

I'll upload the deck later this evening when I get home. I was expecting more Novus related updates but the hotel was the main thing.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LyPnRe8WQpTFk-30OvMXdF7-kVoLRmv0/view?usp=share_link

Novus 12-Story Hotel

So the question is...will there be another hotel next to the restaurants as originally planned? Will ASU start marketing the hard corner for office (3C- 3rd Phase of this Phase)? Might be easier to sell the hard corner for office than that hidden site next to the garage.

[builder03]

Via Clayco's Linkedin:

Clayco has officially completed the final concrete pour at Shorehaven in Tempe, Arizona, marking a significant step forward in this transformative waterfront development. This milestone is a testament to the expertise, dedication, and hard work of our team and partners who have brought this vision to life.

Our team will be sad to see the three Stafford Tower Cranes taken down, but this is an important milestone as Shorehaven moves towards the finish line!

Sounds like the cranes will be coming down soon as they transition to interior buildout.

[Forrester1998]

Haven't been able to check out Novus since the new restaurants all opened up but I did check out some of the recent videos from the Novus Innovation Corridor Twitter (or, uh, X) account from the opening and I'm actually pleasantly surprised at how good it looks. The whole 3A collective area looks really nice and an underrated aspect that I was not expecting is that at least a portion of the roadway within Novus (that is, the stretch of Novus Place between Packard Drive and 6th street) has had the previously installed asphalt replaced with cobblestone, which will be really good for Novus as a pedestrian environment. A similar thing was done for the Watermark development but Novus is in a more pedestrian friendly environment that Watermark already. Really hope they continue to replace more asphalt with cobblestone (if that is the right term, might not be exactly right) as the development continues to build out over the next few years.

Link to the particular video that got my attention:
https://x.com/NovusASU/status/1899196142916895127

[apocalyptic0n3]

Originally Posted by muertecaza

Also, here is the status of the new restaurant building at Hayden Ferry Lakeside. At long last I believe the site will be fully built out when this is complete:

I'm struggling to find the original renderings, but wasn't the original plan for those characteristic blue-glassed buildings to line the entire shore down to Scottsdale? Something like 15-20 of them. I worked in HFL1 about 13 years ago and they had the original render hanging in the lobby at the time. Hard to call it "fully built out" when that was the original vision lol

[Forrester1998]

Originally Posted by builder03

Via Clayco's Linkedin:



Sounds like the cranes will be coming down soon as they transition to interior buildout.

Feels like with each passing day it becomes less of a joke that Shorehaven could actually finish and open before The Pier does. Even if The Pier is further along in their progress right now it's just unbelievable how slow they are moving. I had a hard time finding news articles about it but my cursory search of this thread suggests that The Pier broke ground in the spring of 2019 while Shorehaven did so in the spring of 2022, so The Pier has literally been under construction for twice as long. Now, obviously there were some Covid related delays which would be hard to avoid but that doesn't come close to excusing the pace of this project. We should consider ourselves very lucky that the developers of The Pier are not involved with the rest of the South Pier development (although maybe this isn't just luck as a developer like this maybe just isn't that ambitious lol).

[muertecaza]

Originally Posted by Forrester1998

Feels like with each passing day it becomes less of a joke that Shorehaven could actually finish and open before The Pier does. Even if The Pier is further along in their progress right now it's just unbelievable how slow they are moving. I had a hard time finding news articles about it but my cursory search of this thread suggests that The Pier broke ground in the spring of 2019 while Shorehaven did so in the spring of 2022, so The Pier has literally been under construction for twice as long. Now, obviously there were some Covid related delays which would be hard to avoid but that doesn't come close to excusing the pace of this project. We should consider ourselves very lucky that the developers of The Pier are not involved with the rest of the South Pier development (although maybe this isn't just luck as a developer like this maybe just isn't that ambitious lol).

It's worse than that, they installed the tower crane base in Summer 2017 for the Pier. I'd definitely bet real money at this point that Shorehaven finishes first.

[combusean]

I don't really think the Pier's slow construction should be surprising. They bought the tower cranes instead of leasing them, it's one of the largest buildings in the state, and its success depends largely on a neighborhood being created around it which has been extremely slow to materialize. The owner seems to be very deliberate with the slow/steady construction.

[Summerlin]

Any word when the next phase is breaking ground
https://azbex.com/planning-development/south-pier-in-tempe-getting-ready-for-next-phase/