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Old Posted Feb 21, 2025, 4:06 AM
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was there any provicial funding that went into this in antway prolly tide to the provinces leed criteria or did the cons nix that?
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Old Posted Feb 21, 2025, 5:59 AM
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was there any provicial funding that went into this in antway prolly tide to the provinces leed criteria or did the cons nix that?
Nope. No political influence at all. Just a university committee setting an unrealistic bar.
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Old Posted Feb 21, 2025, 2:07 PM
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I guess it is unfortunate timing that the development and services weren't ready to go 2 or 3 years ago. The two tower Arc and Align student residences on Pembina and Bison would have fit the bill perfectly for Southwood Circle - 16 storey, concrete construction, just steps from the UofM campus.
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Yeah 16 stories sounds small when we discuss ideals of 20-40 a lot of the time but 16 stories is still damn tall and can be just as impressive when designed well. I really like The Arc and Align despite black and white being far from my ideal colour palette.
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University of Manitoba unveils landmark urban community project
ALICIA COX THOMSON
SPECIAL TO THE GLOBE AND MAIL



A parcel of land brimming with potential lies along part of the 885-kilometre Red River, steps away from the University of Manitoba’s bustling campus. Once a golf and country club, this picturesque site lined with old-growth trees is set to become the new home of Southwood Circle, an urban community development that’s the first of its kind in Winnipeg.

Southwood Circle could bring up to 65,000 people to an area that currently feels isolated from the rest of the city. Despite being Winnipeg’s most-commuted-to destination – drawing around 30,000 students and 9,000 staff daily – the University of Manitoba campus has just 1,650 students living in residence. The area becomes a ghost town when school is not in session, exacerbated by a lack of housing and walkable amenities needed to sustain a thriving community year-round.

Southwood Circle could solve these issues by transforming an area spanning 112 acres into a vibrant neighbourhood complete with a new commercial strip, increased housing and office space, bike and cross-country ski trails, better transit and more than 20 acres of parkland.

Land development for revenue

Developments on university-owned lands increase revenue through tenant leases – a model of increasing interest to institutions, says Hazel Borys, City of Winnipeg’s director of planning, property and development. Universities worldwide, especially those in North America, are seeing enrolment shrink as the larger millennial generation gets older.

“Then we have the extra impact of the international students being constrained because of the lack of affordable housing … so universities in North America are absolutely getting into the land development game,” Ms. Borys says.

The University of Manitoba is embracing this trend with the development of Southwood Circle, a project located on land that the university acquired in 2011. The project’s vision is modeled after similar university-owned developments such as Wesbrook Village by the University of British Columbia, and University District by the University of Calgary.

The University of Manitoba has also launched UM Properties, the developer behind Southwood Circle, as a limited partnership with its own board of directors – the majority of whom must be independent of the institution.

Sustainability plans

Southwood Circle will be Winnipeg’s largest and most-sustainable infill project. In urban planning, infill refers to the redevelopment of open land for new construction within an already-developed area.

“We used existing infrastructure,” says Greg Rogers, chief executive officer of UM Properties. “The intention was that this becomes a community where you don’t need a car. We’re approved for over 11,000 multi-family units, and we’re only adding less than two kilometres of road.”

Sustainability is a core focus, with initiatives aimed at improving transit links to campus and the area’s walkability to reduce car usage and greenhouse gas emissions. The developers are also maintaining more than 5,000 old-growth trees, planting more than 700 new trees and preserving the area’s natural animal habitats.

Mr. Rogers, born in Winnipeg but whose work has brought him all over the world, relished the chance to give back to his hometown and alma mater. “The uniqueness of our natural conditions in a dense urban environment creates a very unique opportunity for people to engage more with Mother Nature,” he says. “We’re really emphasizing that with the health of the forest.”

Mr. Rogers says UM Properties is working with Ducks Unlimited, a non-profit dedicated to preserving wetlands and water habitats, to add native plants to the site’s storm pond to help clean the water.

Indigenous design principles



Rogers and UM Properties brought in Toronto-based architect DIALOG, a firm that also designed the University of Calgary’s master development. Led by partner and chair Antonio Gomez-Palacio, DIALOG listened to the city, university stakeholders, students, staff, Indigenous leaders and local community members to understand their desires for the property.

“We really wanted to bring sensitivity into the process when it came to Indigenous voices,” says Mr. Gomez-Palacio. “Then, during the conversations, the Truth and Reconciliation Commission was looking for a location for its archive, and so that also became a significant anchor [and helped] inform the design principles.”

Set to open in 2029, the National Centre of Truth and Reconciliation will be located within Southwood Circle.

While DIALOG created the master plan for Southwood Circle, the firm is no longer involved with the overall design, which is now being led by Anishinaabe architect Ryan Gorrie, principal at BrookMcIlroy in Winnipeg and lead of its Indigenous Design Studio. “For Southwood, design inspirations started with the natural world, what was existing and what we wanted to amplify,” Mr. Gorrie says.

“Conversations with elders in particular helped to focus on it as an opportunity to weave Indigenous knowledges into spaces and infrastructure at a variety of scales, paying special attention to the areas where human interface with the natural environment could signal respect, responsibility and deeper understanding of those beings which support human life.”

Phase one welcomes retail, office tenants

Mr. Rogers says UM Properties will be ready to welcome retail and office tenants in phase one this month. “The servicing of our first phase is done – that’s 3,500 units worth of density, which represents about 28 of the 112 acres in total,” he says. “Our first phase is our most dense and urban phase that’s most adjacent to the university. That creates the nucleus, the highest density urban core of this community.”

Mr. Rogers also says he’s been acting as a “matchmaker” as he curates leases and pairs businesses together. “We’ve been in discussions with grocery stores, pharmacies, banks … we’re looking for places that have a coolness to it,” he says.

While the return on investment for this type of urban community takes longer than for suburban developments, the rewards are longer-lasting, Ms. Borys says.

“You are investing in civic spaces, trees and trails, and really well-done streets. The long-term return on investment is many times over what those faster architecture types of formats are,” she says.

“Southwood Circle is so vital and exciting for Winnipeg on a variety of levels.”
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business...nveils-landmark-urban-community-project/
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Old Posted Mar 11, 2025, 5:13 PM
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Good write up!
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Old Posted Mar 11, 2025, 5:32 PM
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Is that tower in the bottom middle of the render a new design? It seems like theres been a whole whack load of changes here.
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Is that tower in the bottom middle of the render a new design? It seems like theres been a whole whack load of changes here.
Everything is conceptual at this point, no designs have been released.
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Everything is conceptual at this point, no designs have been released.
Do we know if permits have been submitted for anything yet, or is UM still basically marketing at this point?
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Old Posted Mar 11, 2025, 6:01 PM
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The page before this has some discussion on recent events. Developers are trying to make a go of it, but struggling with requirements set by U of M.
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hope and dreams for a utopian state with zero budget in mind
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That's a bit overly pessimistic. Mixed-use density isn't some unattainable utopia, it happens all over the world, even in Winnipeg!

Besides, UofM just owns the land and the plan is for private developers to develop the lots. Besides the environment requirements (which should probably be reviewed if they want to attract development in the current economic/political climate) the "budget" of the potential projects here are mostly out of their hands.
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Besides the environment requirements (which should probably be reviewed if they want to attract development in the current economic/political climate) the "budget" of the potential projects here are mostly out of their hands.
Why should environmental requirements be reviewed? The environment doesn't stop needing protection just because of an economic downturn.
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Why should environmental requirements be reviewed? The environment doesn't stop needing protection just because of an economic downturn.
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I think it's the fact that every building needs to be LEED gold. Perhaps silver or certified can be used to lower some costs.
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I think it's the fact that every building needs to be LEED gold. Perhaps silver or certified can be used to lower some costs.
Or better yet, just drop the LEED requirement. Its just administrative bloat that does nothing beyond the current minimum building code standards with respect to energy efficiencies anyway.
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Or better yet, just drop the LEED requirement. Its just administrative bloat that does nothing beyond the current minimum building code standards with respect to energy efficiencies anyway.
My understanding is that LEED only considers energy consumption by the building itself. If it's holding back a dense, mixed-use, walkable, transit-oriented development, then the certification is not seeing the forest for the trees.
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To me, 'environmental' when doing land development refers to the ground, water, air, etc. Nothing to do with the building.

The 'environmental' in LEED I believe is referring to the environmental conditions within the building. Maybe I'm wrong though.

Did all the prospective developers not review and consider the requirements before attempting to develop? Or are we just arguing about something here for no reason?
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Old Posted Mar 12, 2025, 3:26 PM
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I think the argument is about nothing.

The thought is that the margins are really tight on the type of buildings that UM Properties are specifying and the LEED Certification is an expensive requirement for efficiencies that are fairly common in new, high end builds now a days.
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Just drove thru the U of M and they have installed some over the top new light fixtures for this development along Sifton Rd. From the discussion in the other thread about Hydro being cheap, insensitive and shortsighted I'm surprised their heads didn't explode with these new fixtures going in.

found the pole:
https://www.nycstreetdesign.info/lighting/bishops-crook-pole

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